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Does anyone here have any experience with this, or do you have any opinions about it? I'm not nursing dd anymore and I'm not pregnant with the next yet so I thought this might be the perfect time to do some sort of whole body cleanse. I'm worried that it might be extreme though, what do you think?

Basically, you drink a lemonade mixture that you make with fresh squeezed lemon juice, maple syrup, water, and cayenne pepper. You can between 6-12 glasses a day and as much water as you would like. In the mornings and evenings you drink a laxative herbal tea, and you also do a saltwater cleanse. Once a day you drink a quart of saltwater that is supposed to pass quickly through your bowels and cleanse them. There's lots more to it than just this, but this are the basic steps.

So, any opinions? Or does anyone have any other cleansing suggestions.

(And just to introduce myself a bit, I'm Megan and I live in Southern Alberta. I lurk here mostly, and I've posted a couple of times. I'm continually trying to improve my eating habits and to learn new ideas. I just recently got Nourishing Traditions from the library and I'm fascinated. I feel like I'm at a turning point in my nutrition right now and I'd love to start fresh with some sort of complete cleanse.)

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By that description, I think I'd rather have dirty insides!!!

I'm so much help, aren't I?????
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My MIL did the Master Cleanse after she was diagnosed with cancer. (She passed away about six months later. ) She did say that she felt very good for the first week or so. Shortly after my MIL did the cleanse I tried it. It was really hard! I gave up after 24 hours. I talked to my SIL about it after I quit. (She is a wholistic pharmacist and nutritionist.) She said that the Master Cleanse is often "prescribed" for people with extreme, life-threatening illnesses. She also told me that if I wanted to do a cleanse I should try a less restrictive one. She didn't really see any benefit for doing something so extreme. Some things to try: no dairy, wheat or sugar. I still have trouble with giving up those three things :

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Yes, I've done this cleanse 5 times in the last 1 1/2 years. Two times were 10 days and the others were 7 or 3 days. You should do it. You will feel good. I highly recommend this for anyone who has nasal allergies or asthma. I was able to get off my prescription medications for asthma! yah. As well as getting rid of headaches and tiredness that I was having often before cleansing. People tell me that I looked radiant after cleansing. Along with losing 13-15 lbs. It's tough not eating but you do lose your appetite and get used to it after about 3 days. Reading the book will tell you more about the benefits..
You can download the book here in PDF format
http://www.supernatural.com/Waveleng...terCleanse.pdf

good yahoo groups to join and ask questions are:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mastercleanse/
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another good forum is at http://www.curezone.com
feel free to ask me questions if you have any too.
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Natmother,

I've got that book and have been wanting to try the cleanse for a couple years, but have been bfing, preggers, or both. I'm currently bfing 1 year old and the occasional 'fly by' 3 year old.

Have you talked to or ever heard of it being done while bfing? I know the 'canned' response is that you will detox and it'll be in the bm, so don't do it...but I was thinking if I added in a high chlorella suppliment (like Sun Chlorella) it would bind up and neutralize any and all the 'freed' toxins and pass out of my system before it had a chance to 'exude' via bm. Just a thought....and wanted another opinion.

My younger sister and brother-in-law did this cleanse for a weekend and it helped them both immensely with some sinus and intestional problems. They also did a 'parasite cleanse' and the hardest part was drinking bentonite 'clay' drinks.... She did tell me drinking the salt water was gross, but way better than the 'clay' drinks...
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My DH has done it many times. One time he did for 40 days, yes 40 days!

He has moved on from cleanses these days though and follows a different kind of philosphy, the Primal Diet by Aajonus Vonderplanitz, who doesn't recommend fasts. He used to swear by the cleanse, however, and I am sure he would still highly recommend it for people that have a mostly cooked food diet.

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Thanks for all the replies!

Natmother, I'm so impressed that you were able to do this cleanse so often! It seems like it would take a lot of willpower. I'm still a little bit undecided. I want to concieve sometime fairly soon and I'm worried that this will deplete my body of important nutrients. I don't have asthma, just occasional seasonal allergies. I mainly want to cleanse out my digestive system, I have a lot of painful cramping and bloating when I eat and I know there must be something that is irritating my system. I'd love to figure out what it is!

So, did you also do the laxative herbal tea and the salt water cleanse? And uccomama, did your husband do that as well? I'm just wondering if those are an absolute necessary part of the cleanse. I read most of the book on the PDF file, it's very interesting. I just don't agree with his thoughts on breastfeeding, and it always worries me when I disagree so heavily with part of his philosophy.
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So, did you also do the laxative herbal tea and the salt water cleanse? And uccomama, did your husband do that as well? I'm just wondering if those are an absolute necessary part of the cleanse.
It isn't necessary and my DH didn't, but he recommends it if you think need it.

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I am bfing but will do this cleanse asap!!! I did my last one before kid #3 , after bfing #2...
imo- the cleane is enough- no need for extra bowel stuff or special baths...
i love nursing but feel i need to cleanse...
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i just finished doing this cleanse for 12 days and i loved it.....i just finished bf a 2.5 yo and i was ready for this....i would highly reccommend a prefast.....

i started the first of march with no sugar,coffee,beer, or flour products and it really helped to adjust to the cleanse....i also started one lemon in water every morning.....i started the cleanse on the equinox and just finished....there are alot of forums for support on the MC......

i really see the advantages to a raw diet and i am trying to go as raw as we can right now.....even if it means NOT sauteing all the veggies for a stir fry...

i did the lax tea and i liked it better than the salt water flush (it was hard to run to the bathroom looking after a toodler).....the tea makes you "regular" ....i eliminated everyday with no solid food intake....scary..
....the tea does make you cramp so that can be uncomfortable but it passes quickly.....i was not as toxic as someone coming from a std american diet so my detox symptoms were not as bad.....i would get tired sometimes maybe a headache once but i just added more syrup and it went right away....

i really wanted to decrease the mucous factor in my body and i know this helped (i can really breath now)......

i did milk thistle everyday but that's all for herbs, oh yeah i did have rooibos tea with the peppermint tea a couple of times.....i know this cleanse is not for everyone but the recipe is so easy it really fit into my day and i asked dh to eat and feed dd before i got home (he just ate out alot).....

the only thing i missed was cooking something so i delved into my slow cooker and made a bunch of soups and froze them for later.

i didn't weigh but i think i lost 12-15 lbs....so that was nice!

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A note on cleansing from herbalists who sell cleansing regimens, here:
http://www.blessedherbs.com/index.cg...sp=3882&m=home

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Note: The evidence supporting colon cleansing is mostly observational evidence. We do not know of any scientific evidence (double blind, randomized, placebo controlled studies) to support colon cleansing or to give an explanation of what comes out during our cleanse. That said, there has been much written on colon cleansing and there is a large amount of observational evidence based on personal experiences. Please read through all our colon cleansing information and make a decision as an informed consumer. On this site we have attempted to present a full view of what is known and unknown about colon cleansing.

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I am on day 3 of the master cleanse right now. Today has been the hardest day so far, but it really hasn't been that bad. I can give you a better picture of what it has done for me after I have finished. so far, the benefit is that I have lost 7lbs (although I fully expect to gain back part of the weight that I lose). I am hoping it will clear up the on-going sinus infection that I have had for months and I am hoping for more energy and focus. I'll let you know if that happens.
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Continuing to read on the web about cleansing:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...ics/detox.html

This is a short essay arguing against the whole concept:
Ummm, Quackwatch and Stephen Barrett doesn't have much credibility. See here.

If you are researching this subject, I would try and find some other sources than a delicenced MD working out of his garage with a major axe to grind.

From the above article, Quackbusters Horse-Whipped in Missouri Supreme Court:

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Not only did they fail, but the resulting Supreme Court Decision has become a landmark, and will be used across the land, as "case law" whenever any State agency is dumb enough, or sleazy enough, to use the "quackbusters" or "quackbuster" *dogma, as a resource.* The case decision had a lot to say about a lot of issues.

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Thank you! I didn't know how to evaluate any of the stuff I was finding. I still don't. Do you have more, I don't know, credible stuff than the pro and con things I'm seeing on the web? I'm not finding anyone to explain the science of the cleanse, and the anti-cleanse stuff is mainly the argument I quoted above.
No problem!

My DH is the master-cleanse expert in our house. I know he has a book somewhere on the subject of fasts and cleanses, but I don't know where it is. Unfortunately he is asleep. But I will ask him tomorrow if he could give me some names to google for you.

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Okay, please talk to me about this. I have a friend who did cleanses and they really looked like crash diets to me. They made her ill-tempered but she claimed this was a "healing reaction." I also didn't get why you had to stop eating completely to get the old (and presumably "bad") food out of your system before you could change your diet. Why not just skip the painful initiation and cut to the chase?

But I want to be open if this is something that could help me, since I have allergies. Also I do see that "there's no study to back this up" is a weak argument against an alternative treatment. There is no study to prove that doing chi gung will help your asthma symptoms, but when I did, it helped mine.

So whatever information you can supply or guidance in my reading, that would be great.

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I'm planning on doing something next weekend, but I'm not sure what. I recently weened my almost 3 yo and I'm in an eating rut. I've read a little about the master cleanse. Does anyone know how a juice fast compares to that? Or if there is something that's a little "easier". I don't want to do anything too extreme because we want to TTC in a few months, but I feel like I need something to break my mediocre eating cycle.
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Well, I'm on Day 4 of the Master Cleanse and WOW. I've always had some sort of 'post nasal' drip during the spring, and this is the best I've ever felt.

One thing supposedly about cleanses, is they give your digestive system a 'rest'. Supposedly the 'energy' saved from creating enzymes and digesting food, allows your body to put that 'energy' towards healing and rebuilding. Tearing out the old, and rebuilding new, healthy cells.

The combination of fresh, organic lemon juice and a whole sugar with minerals intact, allows you to not have severe hunger, and it provides all the nutrients you need for the given time frame suggested (10 days).

Here is what's happened so far for me:

Day 1:
Felt kinda hungry, but nothing too bad, did 8 'lemonad drinks', water 'to thirst' and evening tea of 'Smooth Move' with touch of the maple syrup.
Fellt ok.
Sinus's congested with lots of pressure from 'lingering' sinus infection.
Weight 164 (my scales, doc's office says 165). Size 14/12 depending on item.
Hips Measured at 42 inches, waist 33.5", Below belly button 'tummy bulge' at 39"

Day 2:
Had lost 4 pounds when I weighed in morning. (Felt great, broke into a new 'zone' weight-wise.
Felt ok. Not very energetic, but ok enough to do typical 'mom' stuff and laundry and cleaned the house. Sinus were 'draining' clear stuff, but lots there when I did my 'neti pot' wash morning and night.
Was a little tired during day, was hard to not 'snack' when I was feeding the kids. But not 'real' hunger pains, just habits.
Had morning 'SM' drink. Drank 6 lemonad drinks, and water during day. Then had 'SM' tea at night.. Had one cup 'mint' tea for the 'chlorophyll' to help bind any toxins released.

Day 3:
Had lost 2 more pounds when I weighed in morning. (Super stoked).
Drank my first SWF (Salt water flush) and it worked in 15 minutes. Not painful, not so urgent I was uncomfortable. It was hard to drink that much water (1 qt) first thing in the morning though. But worked like a CHARM!
Not hungry at all. But that night, sinuses were clogged again (think I was cleansing mucus via the nose).
Drank my 6 (minumim) dose of lemonaid mix, did one cup mint tea, and SM tea at night. Slept really good that night.

Day 4:
Lost 1 pound, and measured again for curiosity and:
Hips are now 40.5 inches, waist 33, lower waist *mamma tummy bulge area* down to 37.5 and an old 'tight' pair of size 12 pants 'fit' with room to spare in tummy area! (they are the high waisted kind that usually don't fit after having kids).
Did SM tea instead of the SWF, working on 8 lemonaids, and doing more water alternately. Cleaned house and sinuses feel absolutely clear.
Feel REALLY energetic. Took a walk, did errands, and have not felt 'hungry', though the spouse and kids had pizza for dinner and that was hard. So here I am typing while they eat..haha

Working towards the recommeded '10 days' to get full benefits.

So, it's ancedotal for my personal experience. But I'm laying it out, with all the weights and measurements and such. So if anyone is interested, I would recommend it just from how good I'm feeling and I'm in the 150s again...hoping to hit the 140s (marriage weight). I'm 5'7" tall, if that helps anyone curious for figuring out height/weight issues. I've been reading the more weight you have to loose, the easier it is.

I think Peter's site is great for help with questions and such. OH, if you can't stand the taste of 'cayenne' in your lemonaid, do a 'shooter glass' with some lemonaid and the cayenne in it. THEN you can drink the rest of your lemonaid with no 'spicy' taste to it.

I'm going to be the 'reverend' for my sister's wedding June 11th, so I'm trying to drop those 'baby weight' pounds and THEN some! If anyone else is going to try this, perhaps we can start a new thread in 'weight loss' area and provide 'moral support!'

Edited to update:

Day 5:
Weight now 156, Hips 40", Waist 32", 'belly bulge' 37 and 'flatter'!!
Feeling fine. DH had pizza last night, that was HARD, it smelled yummy!
Doing typical lemonaid and will have tea later tonight.

Day 6:
Weight 155, Hips 39.5, Waist 31, "Bulge" 36.5

Day 7: Am not going for 10 days, decided to 'break' fast.
Drinking orange juice today.
Baby decided to keep on 'nursing'. He'd cut down to once in morn, and once in evening. But while I was doing the fast, he seemed to like nursing EVEN MORE!
I am feeling good, but dont want to push the nutrient issue with 14 mo old trying to 'up' his intake. FYI he seems fine, and seems to LOVE nursing after I drink the lemonade.
I also had been, and will continue to do so, add in 'chlorella' suppliment (liquid) to 'absorb' and pass any toxins I am releasing, to help prevent them in my BM.
During the fast, I nursed him before the SM tea at night. I also Nursed him in morning AFTER doing the SWF, or before the SM tea, if that was what I did for that particular morning.

I feel like I should go for the three extra days, but Dh said maybe next time. Plus, with 14mo old wanting to nurse more, I didn't want to push it.

I'm very happy. I am wearing 'loose baggy' jeans that were tight only a week ago. My skin literally is 'glowing' and I feel really good! It REALLY puts you in touch with cravings, true hunger, and will power! It was an interesting experience and I will probably do it again in a month, if only for 3-7 days. I think I will wait to do 10 day or longer fasts once the toddler finishes his nursing needs.

Just my experience!
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The quackwatch guy says: A person who retained wastes and toxins would be very ill and could die if not treated. The whole concept is irrational and unscientific.

Well maybe this is too simplistic, but so many are ill and so many die due to poor diet/lifestyle. If he wants irrational he should consider how silly it is to dismiss the potential harm that toxins and waste may be doing to his body and that of others.

Thanks for the PDF book - I'll check it out.

Edited: I read the book last night, thanks again. A couple quotes struck me as odd: Lemons and limes are the richest source of minerals and vitamins of any food or foods known to man . . .
I guess I would have put broccoli, kale or something green and slimy at the top of that list

The author refers to the contents of the citrus as these fantastic new wonder chemicals :LOL

Finally: Our system goes through a cleansing process from twelve midnight until twelve noon, and a building program from twelve noon to twelve midnight

My favorite quote from someone who did the cleanse (kinda gross):
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This cleanse is strange because you keep on pooping about five days in. That's where the weirdness comes in. I don't eat, yet I poop and poop and poo.. You start to wonder what the hell else is hidden inside your meaty colon. It's disgusting, you are full of it, literally, me, you, all of us chunky Americans. . . The last time I cleansed I found a set of car keys to my 1986 Dodge Omni, a couple of White Castle wrappers and 6 bucks in change, oh and a girls phone number. How did that get there?
More practical tips on doing the cleanse: http://www.circle-of-life.net/lemonade_cleanse.html

I'm still in research mode, but leaning toward giving it a shot.
PS. Xenabyte, congrats on the progress - good luck with the next 5 days!
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Updated for day 7 on my post.

I am 'breaking' the fast today with OJ. I will start juicing raw carrot, celery and beet juice for a few days, with some 'broth' added to diet. I might do a 'liver flush' later this week. It's been a good experience so far.
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Edited: I read the book last night, thanks again. A couple quotes struck me as odd: Lemons and limes are the richest source of minerals and vitamins of any food or foods known to man . . .
I guess I would have put broccoli, kale or something green and slimy at the top of that list

The author refers to the contents of the citrus as these fantastic new wonder chemicals :LOL
Isn't that a hoot? Remember the book was published in the 70's...we've come a long way since then.

I'm on day 4 of a small fast. After several rough starts last week (two cheats) I'm just going to 5 days this week. I'll do some blessed herbs cleanses over the summer and another fast after those.

If you can get past the hunger, the benefits are huge. Weight loss is a plus, but you will put most (if not all) of it back on. After coming off a fast, your metabolism is slower than normal. I've read it can take up to 8 weeks to regulate after a fast.

Just fasting these few days (I think 4 total days last week and 4 days this week with a cheat inbetween and a small break) here are some of the benefits I've seen:
~glowing face
~more energy
~my knee doesn't hurt when I run
~A ganglion cyst on my wrist is decreasing in size
~My libido has returned (after three children, a current nursing 2.5 yo and I don't know how many years of being pregnant and nursing, this is a HUGE deal)
~I have more patience and am more even keeled throughout the day
~I've kicked my coffee addiction (for now)

You don't have to do the salt water, but I found on the days I've done it, it's easier.

I've read some theories about the SWF taking toxins out of your system faster so you don't feel as bad during detox and I believe it.
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I agree about the SWF. I was feeling 'icky' after eating a heavy meal this week. So I did the SWF in the morning and BAM...cleared me out and feeling great. Btw, I only have put back on two of the almost 10 pounds lost. And the pants are still fitting nice

I might do a series of three day MC fasts just because it realy does make your skin glow and feel good. I agree about the libedo thing too....

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Thanks for sharing y'alls experience on the Lemondade diet! For what it's worth, here's my logbook from the first three days:

Day 1 - Wed.
* Not too hungry, a little stomach growling. The first three times I forgot the cayenne pepper . . .when I added it to the next batch - Yuck!
* I'm doing only 1 tablespoon of maple syrup (instead of 2) to help "reduce" or lose weight.

Day 2 - Thurs.
* Yesterday and today I feel like a hypo-glycemic! For 45 minutes to 1 hour after drinking my lemondade, I feel fine and alert. But then . . .crash. I start yawning, get soo sleepy, the bed calls my name. This lasts all through the day. Just tired; until I drink more lemonade.
* So, I started looking for information on the maple syrup and didn't like what I found. 65% of it is absorbed directly through the intestinal wall into the blood, giving a sugar high. Maybe that's part of what Burroughs means when he calls maple syrup a "balanced form of positive and negative sugar ". Well I don't need the negative!
* Today for the first time in months? years? my nose isn't kind of clogged up. Usually I can't smell things, but I can now - exciting!
* I cooked a delicious brazilian bean and vegetable soup for DW and DS - that really got my stomach rumbling. But I didn't give in!

Day 3 - Fri.
* This morning my urine reeked of cayenne pepper - ughh. Speaking of which, I quit including it (cayenne pepper, not urine ) in my cleanse regimen. Mr. Burroughs says, "Adding the cayenne pepper is necessary as it breaks up mucus and increases warmth by building the blood for an additional lift. It also adds many of the B and C vitamins." That sounds great, but I just can't stomach the taste. I'll have to do without the warmth, extra lift, and some of the vitamins. Here's hoping the lemon juice is breaking up enough mucus on its own.
* Based on my experience and reading on the maple syrup, I've cut back to 1/2 teaspoon each time. Mr. B says, "The ability of the elements in the lemon and the maple syrup working together creates these desired results", but I can't have another day like the first two. Maybe I should try the blackstap mollasses as he recommends for diabetics, but it, too has a lot of direct absorbstion into the blood.
* How will I know when I'm detoxed? How about if I skip underarm deodorant and see if my sweat still stinks? If it does not, then I know I'm cleaned out. What do you think?
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Hi all,
I was the original poster of this thread a few weeks back, and I just came back in here this week to see that we've got a great discussion going on here. I wasn't very decided at first as to whether I should do this cleanse, but after reading everyone's experience with it, I decided to give it a try. So today is my first day of it, and I'm sitting here drinking my first "lemonade." It's not too bad!

iwearredsocks......I'm wondering also how to know when I'm detoxed. From reading the PDF book, it says optimally to go to day 10. How long are you planning on? I'm shooting for 7 days.

xenabyte......Thanks for your daily log too! I'm planning on keeping a log also, if anyone would like I could post it here too.

Well, good luck to all you cleansers out there! And wish me luck too! It was very difficult to go grocery shopping this morning and buy yummy food for dd and dh! I don't know how I'm going to prepare food during the day for dd if I'm hungry, hopefully the lemonade will keep me satisfied enough. We can do it!
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So I'm at the end of my first day of cleansing and I'm feeling really spacey and irritable! I hope you guys are right about the benefits of this because food is sounding really good right now! This paragraph I've quoted is what turned me off from this cleanse in the first place. It's the very last paragraph in his book, the PDF book Master Cleanse. What do you guys think? Don't you think it's so poorly worded? It makes me wonder how well put together his whole program is. I've noticed quite a bit of sloppy writing and odd phrases. He seems to make a lot of claims without giving evidence. That's one thing I love about Sally Fallon, I love how she backs up everything in her book with tons and tons of references.


"After dedicating a goodly share of my past life in perfection and simplifying a system of healing that is
completely free from error and side effects at a very low cost I was forced to overcome many difficult
obstacles that often threatened to stop me but I persisted in spite of the Medical and legal attacks. I was
told in each case—I was doing to much good and to keep me from giving the help that solved their
health problems I was sent to prison so I couldn’ t help any one any more. But it didn’ t work that way
because while in prison I was allowed to help every one. It was legal to help people in prison but no
outside. Many of the guards, nurses and even doctors came to me for help that no other system could
do. In prison, I was not competing with their Medical rackets but on the outside I hurt their con games. If
my system was made legal the Medical system would be of no further need. Test my work to it’ s fullness
and it will prove superior to any other system."
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I don't know much about master cleanse, but I fast once a week with distilled water, and sometimes add a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar and a teaspoon of honey to it, but no more than to 3 cups, others just water. Since I am nursing my 19 mo old, I do just 24 hours. Really good!
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After three complete days I stopped my lemonade diet. I inadvertently told my FIL I'd help move and clean out his large basement on Saturday. Friday night I remembered, and realized there was no way I could do it in my weakened state.

He mentions in the book he's known laborers to work all day with vigor while on the diet?

Anyway, I didn't get much out of it. The third day was better for sugar highs after nearly eliminating the maple syrup, but speaking of elimination, there wasn't much or any after the first day. Maybe I'm just not clogged up

I do have to say that by Sunday my nasal stuffiness was back
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