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#1 of 11 Old 04-30-2004, 05:15 PM - Thread Starter
 
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I am so upset. The nurses told a new mom I know she didn't have enough milk the day she had her baby and sent her home with formula. She had the baby on Monday, April26. She is 18 and had a very traumatic birth because she was induced for toxemia and had an epesiotomy sp? and they vacumed the baby out.

I will see her again on Sunday. I need advice on books or just things to say to her.

I talked to her today and she is breastfeeding only a couple of times a day the rest all formula. I asked her if her milk came in and she said a little and she said the baby has a hard time latching on. I told her about nipple confusion and that she needs to breastfeed if she wants to produce milk. I asked her if she wants to breastfeed and she said yes.

I am so frusturated. I don't want to be pushy but I feel like shaking her. I won't of course. I have breastfed 3 babies and tandem nursed my two dd's. I feel so helpless with all my experience I don't know how to help her or if I should just keep my mouth shut.

I am going to the library to get sheila kitzingers breastfeeding book.

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The women's hospital here has been really bad about this lately. WTF with these nurses???

My SIL was 18 when her son was born with gastroschesis (intestines partially outside). He was bottlefed what she pumped for a month because all intake had to be weighed against his diapers to make sure everything was going through ok. And after a month, when they went home from the NICU, she was able to nurse him and is still nursing him 20 months later. So those initial problems can be overcome, and I know that having her Mom, sister, and me all encouraging and supporting her breastfeeding was very important. So don't be afraid to be supportive.

If she has access to the net, www.girlmom.com is an excellent site for teen/young moms with a very pro-breastfeeding atmosphere (it was spawned from hipmama). That might be a good source of support for her as well.
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I don't want to shake the mother; I want to shake those %$&@#$ nurses!!!!!!! NO ONE's milk comes in that quickly. Nah, I'd like to do this to the nurses...



And even so, supply can be built by nursing more often.

You are doing a good thing in trying to help!
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I know this has all been said here before, but this makes me so #@%^ angry!!!!!! It's as if the nurses have some perverse desire to see moms give up on breastfeeding.

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I can't even say what I want to do to the nurses and Dr.'s at that hospital. I could go on and on about all they took from her and her babe. They robbed her of so much and I don't want them to rob her of breastfeeding.

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Can you call the hospital and complain about this? Do you know any breastfeeding positive medical professionals in your area?

I've heard of this happening so many times. One friend was told that she had a breast infection because her milk was "yellow" and that she couldn't nurse. Hello! It was colostrum! Ugh. She was 16 when her baby was born. I hated to tell her that they were wrong. She nursed her second baby, though.
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If your library has the "So That's What They're For" book, that's the one I'd recommend. It's so funny and I actually enjoyed reading it.

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It almost makes ya wonder if there is some kind of incentive program for nurses, ya know? If you send home x cans of formula, you'll get a bonus type thing. They can't be just that stupid, can they?
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It almost makes ya wonder if there is some kind of incentive program for nurses, ya know? If you send home x cans of formula, you'll get a bonus type thing. They can't be just that stupid, can they?
Literally, there are incentive programs. The formual reps have spiffs for the nurses, like whoever collects the most box tops from formula containers gets a free gift certificate to a fancy restaurant, or whoever gives out the most bottles gets a ... I don't know, reward of some kind. I'm surprised hospitals permit it, considering how most corporations explicitly forbid that kind of vendor incenting, but if they have rules against it (and I've NEVER heard of a single hospital that did have rules against it) they sure aren't enforced.

I was just in a training session today with a pg L&D nurse who said since she started showing the formula rep has been all over her like a cheap suit. She wants to bf and seemed sincerely surprised that the rep is a "nice guy"! Well, of course they don't have horns and a tail! They believe what they're saying! They have families of their own, and car payments and tuition and groceries to pay... They still are in the business of ruining breastfeeding as far and wide as possible to maximize proft. Sucks.
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coming from a new mom who recovered from preeclampsia with a preemie who was locked in NICU for two weeks, i would say to be gentle and to show her rather than tell her. this didnt happen for me, but i wish it had. sit with her and show her how the baby latches and if she can afford a scale, get her to weigh the baby before and after each feeding if she really needs to be reassured that the baby is getting enough milk (she might not believe anyone after the scare that nurse put into her. but numbers dont lie). tell her that if she lets the baby nurse every hour or two just for a few minutes, this will increase her milk supply more than feeding every three hours will. tell her about fenugreek. tell her that this will work and tell her how its worked for so many others throughout history.

and if on the small chance that she really cant produce enough milk after a few days of really trying with all the above steps, tell her it isnt her fault and to keep trying because breast really is best and tell her all the reasons why this is so.

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