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Excuse my ignorance...my band is playing at a hookah parlour tonight and my mom's here to babysit the kids. Grammy is concerned about me being there for 3 hours and what might pass to my milk...? Ironically, she's never mentioned this when we've played in traditional smoky pubs, but I don't know what to tell her since I've never been to a hookah place before.

I don't smoke anything so I won't likely partake but what can you tell me about hookah? It seems like it will be a really fun gig- I just want to reassure my mom. Thanks!
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Well, usually flavored tobacco is smoked out of hookahs, so it would at worst be comparable to a smoky pub. However, loose tobacco doesn't contain many of the preservatives that cigarettes do, so I suspect it would be even less harmful to your milk than a smoky pub.

It does sound like fun! I hope you have fun.
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Also, hookah bars don't smell smokey, I don't find, not in the same way that a cigarette smokey bar does. Given the function of the hookah, I really don't think there's the same smoke loose in the air - the only smoke would be the exhalation smoke from people, it's not sitting and smouldering into the air.
I think part of the hang up is likely that may people associate a hookah with substances other than simple flavoured tobacco (hash, etc).
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While breastfeeding mothers and their babies are of course better off not smoking, smokers can still safely and effectively breastfeed--the risk factors are not as great as those of formula feeding, esp. of formula feeding + parent smoking.

One night of possible 'contact high' off of secondhand smoke for YOU isn't going to affect your baby at all, probalby. By the time you get home and nurse it'll likely be out of your system. I wouldn't worry.

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Yeah what everyone else said, the shisha used at the hookah bars I've been to doesn't really leave the place too smoky and it doesn't contain the additives found in American cigarettes. Although that doesn't stop people from smoking regular cigs or cloves or whatever it isn't any more unhealthful than regular cig second hand smoke and if that doesn't typically deter you I wouldn't worry about it.

Interestingly the only time I've felt a buzzy feeling from smoking tobacco was from smoking shisha though
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Just curious, what country are you from? I'm in the good old USA...no Hooka clubs here...that I know of

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Just curious, what country are you from? I'm in the good old USA...no Hooka clubs here...that I know of
There are hookah clubs here, they use tobacco.

Now, if she lives in some other country it might be something entirely different.

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I'm in the US also, we have a few in my city.
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Yeah in the US it's different, the ones in my city are bars with lounge style seating and they sell shisha by the bowl. Traditionally in the middle east hookahs are smoked at cafes and people hanging out and drink coffee and tea ect. I actually wish that it was like that here instead of the bar/nightclub thing.

In fact dh was really unhappy that at the local middle eastern restaurants hookah lounge here he can't even get turkish coffee because they are so focused on alcohol. We can get it in their restaurant on the other side of the door but we can't bring it into the bar

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Maybe I'm out of the loop but what is shisha???

The only thing I've ever heard of smoking out of a hooka is pot or hash.

What have I missed???

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Shisha is middle eastern flavored tobacco, it comes in a ton flavors like apple and jasmine and mint. It usually contains molasses or honey mixed with the tobacco and fruit or flower or herbs to form a sticky mass that is smoked.
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Shisha is middle eastern flavored tobacco, it comes in a ton flavors like apple and jasmine and mint. It usually contains molasses or honey mixed with the tobacco and fruit or flower or herbs to form a sticky mass that is smoked.
That sounds fabulous. :
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There are hookah clubs here, they use tobacco.

Now, if she lives in some other country it might be something entirely different.
I've never been to a hookah club, but my ex had one and used it with shisha, not regular tobacco. A cigar shop near where we lived sold it.

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One of my favourite middle eastern restaurants has tables outside for hookah's, my favorite shisha is the coffee flavored, yum yum!
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I am out of the loop, until I read through this thread I was thinking Hookah was slang for a hooker, like you were playing at a brothel . I was thinking your Grammy was thinking you could catch something from the toilet seat :
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I'm back! It was a really fun gig and a lovely place. They did an amazing job with the decor and they served all different kinds of really delicious tea.

It wasn't smoky at all and my friend explained to me that the shisha inside the hookah is made up of mostly honey (???) and a little tobacco so that what is exhaled is more steam than smoke- I think a couple of you mentioned that also.

I am in the US- in Iowa. I don't know of any other hookah places in town but this one has been here almost three years.

Thanks for your help!
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Traditionally in the middle east hookahs are smoked at cafes and people hanging out and drink coffee and tea ect. I actually wish that it was like that here instead of the bar/nightclub thing.
Actually, that's what this place was like. It was awesome. They don't have a liquor license so they mostly served teas but you can bring in wine, etc. It was very chill, a cafe type setting.

The best thing about playing at a hookah parlour is that my coat and hair smell AWESOME today instead of that terrible stale smoke pub smell.
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I'm not sure about what's exhaled (seems like just steam from what you are saying) but as far as what you inhale, hookah is much worse than regular cigarretes. Just a FYI as I always thought it was a safer alternative to smoking.

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According to a recent World Health Organization (WHO) advisory, a typical one-hour session of hookah smoking exposes the user to 100 to 200 times the volume of smoke inhaled from a single cigarette. Even after passing through the water, the tobacco smoke produced still contains high levels of toxic compounds, including carbon monoxide, heavy metals and cancer-causing chemicals (carcinogens). Hookah smoking also delivers significant levels of nicotine — the very addictive substance in tobacco.
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I'm not sure about what's exhaled (seems like just steam from what you are saying) but as far as what you inhale, hookah is much worse than regular cigarretes. Just a FYI as I always thought it was a safer alternative to smoking.
Good to know- I don't smoke myself, but secondhand smoke is an occupational hazard for me so I appreciate the info.
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Where r you from im from oregon and theres over a couple hundred hookah bars here
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