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#91 of 101 Old 08-25-2005, 01:56 PM
 
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You know what, you are so absolutely right. I just cannot believe the irresponsibility of this woman I know -- well, she used to be a "friend" but I really don't think I can be friends with her after what she's done -- she takes Tylenol for headaches and even gives it to her baby sometimes. And the other day she admitted to me that she had novocaine while having her root canal done. I am just shaking with outrage as I write this, it is so awful.

I know also that she gives her baby sips of fluoridated water sometimes, heck, she drinks gallons of it everyday herself, some must be getting through the breastmilk -- not to mention the half a glass of wine I know she occassionally consumes. I don't think there are any studies that show damage to breastfed babies from the mothers consuming small amounts of alcohol, but we all know studies can be twisted any way we want to, there is never any valid information in them anyway.

To her credit, she does buy some organic food, but not all, because -- get this -- she thinks they can't afford it. And she knows very well that non-organic food is filled with pesticides. I also asked her about their beds, she says they're just run-of-the-mill Beauty Rest or something, well you know they're filled with chemicals too, and she and her husband are so selfish they won't sacrifice and spend just a couple of months' paychecks to buy all natural and organic mattresses. I know they're poor, but damn, if they couldn't afford not to poison their children, they shouldn't have had any.

And here's probably the worst thing -- they drive a car. I tried to tell her about all the chemicals that get into her baby every time she starts up the engine, and she did say that she wasn't happy about it, but she still continues to drive anyway. I guess her convenience is more important to her than her baby's health.

Personally, I think her baby would be better off in a foster home. At least there I'm sure the baby would never be given Tylenol, that she'd be fed only organic food, that she'd breathe only filtered air and drink filtered water, and that she'd be given formula, the purity of which no mother's breastmilk can match. And I know only the best people are chosen to be foster parents, not selfish people like this woman.

Anybody know the number to social services?
Lady, your brain is not even close to functioning fully.

Cars are things that help when driving long distances. Yes, things that get you from one place to another. They have a function. A use. Comparing driving an automobile with smoking pot is the most inane comparison I have ever heard. No amount of logical argument will help somebody with your most decidedly non-mental prowess.

It all boils down to this: is smoking pot harmful?

Yes.

If smoking pot is harmful, you are harming your baby. End of story.
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Thanks for this thread, it is very interesting. I just don't understand how you can be avoiding chemicals during pregnancy and birth, researching vaccines and their potential effects, etc yet feel like it is acceptable to smoke pot when breastfeeding??? It simply doesn't make sense, can someone explain that to me? I would imagine there aren't many studies on the effects of pot on breastfed babies as attempting to get a few thousand mothers of breastfeeding infants to be recruited would be difficult....
Best post yet! It makes me happy to see a thinking person post this.

I shall now resume caring for my child and doing what is best for him, rather than giving in to my baser impulses. Something that apparently most on here feel is fine to do as long as it makes the mother feel good, even at her child's expense.

You may all carry on now with your highly intellectual debate.
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I live in an area of NorCal where it is not at all uncommon for parents --- be they pregnant, bfing, homebirthing, epidural-lovin', church-going, PTC tresuring, off-the-grid, mini-van driving, metro-soccer-coaching, makin more than 100k, strugglin' with less than 18,000k, teaching in public school, SAHMing, vegan, walmart shopping addicts, dermatologists, crafty mamas, people who even voted for (horrors!) Bush . . . .and you know what? They smoke herb. Some occasionally, some daily.



Good people. Good kids. Honor roll kind of kids. Kids who get atheletic scholarships. Kids who go on to become just as wonderful and sucessful and productive and caring as their parents.

I know there are some parents who a poor examples to their kids - Yeah, Some smoke pot, some are sober, some a conservative, some are vegetarian, some make chronically bad decisions, some just . . . who knows?

Get worked up all you want about it . . . but if you really want to worry, worry about METH!!
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We cannot control all the chemicals our children are exposed to. We live in a country where driving a car is a necessity. We are all using a computer. Taking drugs during a root canal or during surgery is so very different from sitting at home maybe listening to some music and not necassarily "getting high" but using for recreation AND breastfeeding. Without the breastfeeding, who cares what you put in your body but to expose a baby who doesn't get a say in this, seems intuitively wrong. Maybe my intuition is out.
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I think a little meth every now again is fine, my kids do just great on it - it was the vaccines that poisoned them!!!
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"Lady, your brain is not even close to functioning fully. [...] No amount of logical argument will help somebody with your most decidedly non-mental prowess."

How very impressive that the best response you can come up with is to attack me personally.

"Cars are things that help when driving long distances. Yes, things that get you from one place to another. They have a function. A use."

So if something is harmful but is useful, then it's okay? (Oh, and I'm aware of what cars are for, but thanks so much for clarifying!)

"Comparing driving an automobile with smoking pot is the most inane comparison I have ever heard."

They both expose one to chemicals, so it is reasonable to compare them. If the comparison ultimately fails, though, it is because car exhaust is far more dangerous to one's health than moderate consumption of marijuana.

"It all boils down to this: is smoking pot harmful? Yes."

How about ingesting it in other ways? Proof?
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"Lady, your brain is not even close to functioning fully. [...] No amount of logical argument will help somebody with your most decidedly non-mental prowess."

How very impressive that the best response you can come up with is to attack me personally.

"Cars are things that help when driving long distances. Yes, things that get you from one place to another. They have a function. A use."

So if something is harmful but is useful, then it's okay? (Oh, and I'm aware of what cars are for, but thanks so much for clarifying!)

"Comparing driving an automobile with smoking pot is the most inane comparison I have ever heard."

They both expose one to chemicals, so it is reasonable to compare them. If the comparison ultimately fails, though, it is because car exhaust is far more dangerous to one's health than moderate consumption of marijuana.

"It all boils down to this: is smoking pot harmful? Yes."

How about ingesting it in other ways? Proof?
All of the things that you mention -- food, water, cars -- are necessities of our modern life.

We need food to live. It's best to buy organic foods. But if you cannot afford them, you must still buy food for your child to eat. Thus they may be exposed to harmful chemicals through their foods.

A child needs water to survive. If you cannot afford bottled water that is free from fluoride, the child will have to drink tap water. Through the simple act of drinking water a child may be ingesting chemicals.

A person does not NEED pot to live or to survive. Is that simple enough for you to understand? Comparing pot with food, water or an automobile is faulty logic.

Another amazing thing I find is that with all of the chemicals one may ingest just by living, breathing, eating and drinking, one would think that a mother would be even more concerned and not advocate ingesting even MORE chemicals through a habit that is based only on their desire to get high and feel good.

For all the moms who get high on here, at least just admit that you do it because you want to. Not because you NEED to. Certainly, don't try to pretend that it's doing your baby any good. You don't help your cause out at all.

And for those that say things like, "Well, so and so down the street did it, and their kids are fine," you may as well be saying, "So and so hit their kids a lot, but they turned out fine." One cannot tell quite how these children would have turned out had the mother not been engaged in her medicinal pursuits, so one cannot definitively state that, can they?
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"We live in a country where driving a car is a necessity. We are all using a computer."

You choose to live in that country. You choose to live somewhere that you need a car. You choose to use a computer. Much of the world makes use without these things. We use these things for reasons of convenience, and we consider that an acceptable exchange for the risks. But why is that more honorable or more okay than using a substance for purposes of enjoyment or comfort? Especially when deleterious effects from that substance have not been proven to be inherent and universal with all kinds of use?
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I think a little meth every now again is fine, my kids do just great on it - it was the vaccines that poisoned them!!!
I hear ya! Personally, I think the crack was fine for me and didn't harm my kid at all. Those vaccines on the other hand may have scarred him for life!!
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i smoke an am breastfeeding an am so worried because i do smoke everyday a bowl or three ?

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