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Anyone watching 20/20 on ABC? Its about Extreme Motherhood. Talks about breastfeeding, at home delivery and more. Thought some of you might be interested

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Oh, thanks for the heads up, watching it now!

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Also watching - very interesting.
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This has been so interesting so far. I really like how they talked about Natural Childbirth not always being painful. I think it is good that they talked about it being possible to enjoy the natural birth. I also thought it was interesting about extended breastfeeding. I haven't heard of too many people breastfeeding past 3 to 4. But I think it is wonderful that so many parents go past this if their children want to. What do ya'll think about how they portrayed both natural childbirth and extended breastfeeding?

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Good except for that one (male) doctor who said its a mother's job to "work herself out of a job" meaning weaning early : because babies shouldn't be able to run to their mommies for comfort past a certain age.

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Ha ha, do they really call it at home delivery? I know some OBs have "home delivery is for pizza" bumperstickers.
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It'll be on at ten my time, but I plan to watch it.

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Ha ha, do they really call it at home delivery? I know some OBs have "home delivery is for pizza" bumperstickers.
I am pretty sure that is what I heard during the preview earlier.. but I could be wrong.. I just got excited that it was coming on.. lol

They just called it Childbirth at home.. so I am probably wrong in what I heard.

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Good except for that one (male) doctor who said its a mother's job to "work herself out of a job" meaning weaning early : because babies shouldn't be able to run to their mommies for comfort past a certain age.
I heard that too.. that is just crazy! Why in the world would a mother aim to get to the point where they don't need to do that much. How depressing!

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Watching here ... it's making me want a baby again, lol.
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It'll be on at ten my time, but I plan to watch it.
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I personally thought that it portrayed extended breastfeeding as a negative thing, but that they did really well with the birthing at home segment. I missed the first segment - not sure what it was about. It definitely could have been worse, for a mainstream news/current events program, but it could have been better as well.

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I personally thought that it portrayed extended breastfeeding as a negative thing, but that they did really well with the birthing at home segment. I missed the first segment - not sure what it was about. It definitely could have been worse, for a mainstream news/current events program, but it could have been better as well.

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I totally agree. I did think that it was a step in the right direction though. For the most part these shows tend to be all negative. Personally, I thought it showed some positives as well. Especially the first segment on orgasms and natural childbirth. Not just about the orgasms, but that a woman can enjoy natural childbirth and that once a woman loses all fear associated with birth, it can make it a better experience. I do agree about the nursing segment, it did take more of a negative tone. But I thought the mothers that were featured were inspiring.

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Man, I really wish I would have caught that first segment!
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Man, I really wish I would have caught that first segment!
Was that the babydoll part? "Rebirths" are what they were called. That was not extreme mothering really, it is a quirky hobby if anything. Having a cute babydoll is nothing compared to having a real one (hence "mothering" it).

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Was that the babydoll part? "Rebirths" are what they were called. That was not extreme mothering really, it is a quirky hobby if anything. Having a cute babydoll is nothing compared to having a real one (hence "mothering" it).
No the reborn dolls were the 2nd segment.. The first was about women having orgasms during natural childbirth.

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The first segment was orgasmic childbirth.

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Was that the babydoll part? "Rebirths" are what they were called. That was not extreme mothering really, it is a quirky hobby if anything. Having a cute babydoll is nothing compared to having a real one (hence "mothering" it).
I didn't actually see anything before Extended Breastfeeding. Sounds like I would have been interested in both segments before it (although I was specifically talking about the Orgasmic Birth segment). While I wouldn't call my birth orgasmic, I certainly would not describe it as the worst pain I have had, and I'd say it was sort of pleasant.

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I too missed everything before the extended breadtfeeding segment, darn!

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I posted this in the 20/20 segment in CLW as well:

I just got finished watching the 20/20 featuring Extreme Nursing. I thought it was fairly well done, although there were points where I felt like the interviewer (Debra Roberts????) was fighting back a grimace. I found it a little amusing that the first woman they had on the "extreme nursing" show was a woman nursing 2 1/2 year old twins. Maybe I've been hanging around MDC too long but a 2 1/2 nursing is almost a given to me and in no way seems unusual or "extreme". I am sometimes surprised when I see weaned 2 year olds because that is so not MY normal, kwim?

I really liked the family with the three kids, they just seemed very normal. I was VERY surprised to see that the 12 year old boy was willing to talk about when he used to nurse and was free and open about how much he liked it. He seemed like such a sweet kid. I hope he doesn't get his butt handed to him by his peers........

I also liked the 9 year old sister who said that seeing her six year old brother nursing made her happy to see him doing it. Very sweet.
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The 2 and a half year olds twins being mentioned surprised me too.. That doesn't even seem extreme to me. Made me laugh for a minute because I think its normal. I was also shocked about how the 12 year old was willing to talk about breastfeeding. My first reaction was that he was going to get teased for being so honest. Which is sad

Debra Roberts didn't seem interested at all. You could tell she thought it was all pretty extreme.

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The psychologist was a quack. Like a child isn't going to learn how to self-soothe if he's EBF? The first thing that came to my mind was that he probably didn't ever see a BF mom/child (past the first few weeks) and that I bet he believes in CIO.

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The psychologist was a quack. Like a child isn't going to learn how to self-soothe if he's EBF? The first thing that came to my mind was that he probably didn't ever see a BF mom/child (past the first few weeks) and that I bet he believes in CIO.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. That guy made me cringe. And 2.5 is EBF? Ha. Not in our house. Everybody weaned before kindergarten, but it was their choice.

I think what annoyed me about the whole show was the whole time I was thinking, "This is news...?" Yes, I live in a big crunchy bubble. But kudos to the people who were willing to put themselves and their families out there to talk about things that a lot of people regard as different.
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When the introduction said I'd be shocked by some of the stuff there I thought "Like to see you try! I hang out on MDC!"

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The reborns creeped me out. Not so much the dolls themselves but, the one short haired blonde lady they showed.

I am still watching it so I may be back later.

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The reborns creeped me out. Not so much the dolls themselves but, the one short haired blonde lady they showed.

I am still watching it so I may be back later.
What creeped me out about the reborns is the people using them as a real baby. That sort of goes to far for me.

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What creeped me out about the reborns is the people using them as a real baby. That sort of goes to far for me.
Definitely. Oh and paying $1400 for a doll?!

The psychologist is making me mad re: extended BF-ing.

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I was VERY surprised to see that the 12 year old boy was willing to talk about when he used to nurse and was free and open about how much he liked it. He seemed like such a sweet kid. I hope he doesn't get his butt handed to him by his peers........
I'm still nursing my youngest, so my kids talk about it occasionally. My eleven-year-old is practically *smug* because he got to nurse until he was 3.5 years old. He and my middle two consider himself luckier than they, because they only got to go to two years.
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I just finished watching the EBF segment. I didn't think it was done too poorly. I expected much worse to be honest. I did feel my face scrunch up in confusion when the lady with the twins was mentioned. Having tadem nursed my 2 youngest into preschoolhood it just felt like, "really, people would be shocked by that?" I thought the 12 year old boy was sweet.

The Reborns, in my opinion, are creepy. There is just something unwell about a woman who treats a baby doll as if it's real for attention.

I look forward to the homebirth portion of the show.
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I think that it was made for an intended mainstream audience to "shock" rather than inform and so it was overall biased against most of what it portrayed. Yet I did think there were spots that may have opened peoples minds a bit (like the unattended birth segment) by showing a bit more of both sides of the story.

If nothing else - it was nice to watch with DH and got us talking. We did check out those "reborn" dolls online. A wonderful artistic acheivement to be sure - but to use as a "real" baby was very creepy to me. But again, I don't want to judge others for things I don't understand if I expect them to respect my choices that aren't mainstream either.

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