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I think my issue with Kailynn living with Jo's family is that she is so wishy-washy.  One episode she wants to be with him, next episode she doesn't.  Until she moves out, she's bound to keep up the back and forth and that isn't healthy for her or Jo. 


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But part of the problem is that she is really young. Regardless of the fact that she gave birth to a child, she is still very young and is bound to act like a teenager occasionally. Also, I feel she has to go back to at least pretending to want to be with him sometimes because of his parents pushing it in that direction. I just wish that Jo's parents would stop letting her live there on their terms only (which are basically that she's back with Jo) and just chill out for a while and let both of them grow as adults and parents. 
 

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I think my issue with Kailynn living with Jo's family is that she is so wishy-washy.  One episode she wants to be with him, next episode she doesn't.  Until she moves out, she's bound to keep up the back and forth and that isn't healthy for her or Jo. 




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Ugh. I wish Chelsea's dad would put his foot down. At least he's insisting on rent from Adam. Chelsea is just going to have to earn the hard way...by losing all her friends in her attempts to keep Adam. I get that her dad i trying to give her room to grow up on her own, but the Adam thing really is grating my nerves.

 

Leah and Cory, as usual, I love 'em, they are cute, great parents! I also don't see why their family is worried about them rushing into things. Like she said, it's kind of hard to take it slow when you have 2 kids! Theire pictures.....the "redneck" pictures had me cracking up! They are a beautiful family.

 

Kailyn, I think she wants to be with Jo but she is afraid of things not working out and so is pushing herself to be independent. If you looked at her face when he got out of the car she looked sad. I think she is probably the strongest one of the girls and I really think she will suceed. It must be so hard. When her mom talked about ebign a single parent I was like, "really? it's hard? Your kid doesn't even live with you."

 

Jenelle....I felt awful for her this episode. Jenelle makes immature choices. She is still self-centered. But I was proud of her for going out ant getting Jace a present. She was genuinely excited about giving it to him, and really her mom's attitude disgusted me. My dd like to sit on her friend's power wheels and the girls are only 10 months and 13 months respectively. Aside from whether or not it was age appropriate, those things are pricey and obviously Jenelle cared  about him liking it. Youknow her mother always complains that she spends more money on herself, here she went abd bough an expensive toy for him, and she just got beat down about it. And how it must have felt to be "invited" to your own child's birthday party, and then get b---ed at for not helping enough.....the whole thing just makes me sad. Kieffer seems like he isn't necessarily too ambitious, but he seems to be a calming presence in Jenelle's life and I think she gets the emotional support from him that her mother doesn't provide. So maybe it will work out for them, who knows.


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I love this show!  I watched it tonight, and felt very sorry for Leah and her having to deal with the possibly of having a permanently disabled baby. 

 

Man, the one teen I can't stand on that show is Janelle.  She is a stubborn brat!  If I had a child at 16, I would take care of it, not pawn it off to my mom and eventually lose custody.  She seems more interested in guys and parties than her child.  She will regret it big time one day.

 

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Oh My Heck.  Tonight was harsh all around.  Kailyn sneaking and lying.  Jenelle moving in at her mom's with her boyfriend and then getting high.  Was she not able to see what would happen?   The guy laughing while her mom was mad would have sent me off into crazy mad land if I were her.  And then, true to form, Jenelle left with the boyfriend instead of staying with her son.  This was the first episode where I've seen her mom react with concern instead of outright anger (when she was telling Jenelle that should could stay but the boyfriend couldn't)

 

Adam and Chelsea.  That's a train wreck.  I can't believe her father has let it go on this long.

 

I felt so bad for Leah and Cory.  It was hard to watch their anguish.  It's scary when something is wrong with your child. :(

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Yeah, wow.  Jenelle last a whole 5 days at her mom's?  And what was Keifer talking about, making more money than you know?  Weed?

 

I liked how they showed the montage of Jenelle's mom with all her wacky rules.  Jenelle really can't do anything right, even when she is trying.

 

Hopefully Chelsea will break up with Adam now.  Maybe her dad's words with be the breakthrough, you shouldn't be with someone who always makes you choose between them and your loved ones.  I think she is starting to see that he is emotionally abusive, I hope at least.

 

I really hope Kailyn can save enough money to get away from Jo and his controlling family.  She is starting to realize that they have no right to tell her how to live.


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what is so crazy  - to me - about Chelsea is that her Dads house was HUGE - i dont get why she left in the first place.  This lesson wlll be hard won,  anyone else cringe when she says things like "We've been through so much together"  about her and Adam?  As if dealing with many negative things as a result of having a relationship with Adam - is a reason to continue that relationship....

I think Kailyn needs to just wait until she is out of the house before she starts up with Jordan.....i think that whole family is going to go psychotic on her!

I have a feeling this is a pattern with Jenelle - choosing some random dude - who is totally a hustler - over her family, over Jace...and her mom freaked out over a stain on the couch...did she think weed was gonna be OK? 


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IMO, Jenelle ends up with these loser guys because she has never really felt loved. She basically said as much. not syaing it excuses her behavior, but is more the reason the behind it. These guys are losers and make her feel great; next to them, she is a winner. Something she has never felt like. She is a classic example of how fathers can impact their daughters.

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IMO, Jenelle ends up with these loser guys because she has never really felt loved. She basically said as much. not syaing it excuses her behavior, but is more the reason the behind it. These guys are losers and make her feel great; next to them, she is a winner. Something she has never felt like. She is a classic example of how fathers can impact their daughters.


I could not agree more!  She is struggling to find love and acceptance from anyone (particularly a male because of the daddy issues).  She finds these losers because she knows she is better than them.  In a lot of ways I find similarities between myself in high school and Jenelle.  My mom also resembles Jenelle's mom in some ways.  It's dysfunctional and sad. 

 

Kailynn is driving me bonkers as usual.  Jo's family is going to blow the roof off that house when they find out she's dating Jordan again. 

 

I felt a little bad for Chelsea.  She's so paranoid and scared of being cheated on again.  I wish she would wake up and realize that her and Adam aren't meant to be together.  He's still young enough (IMO) for the saying "once a cheater, always a cheater" to ring true. 

 

My heart broke for Leah and Corey.  I've always had a strong feeling that Ali has some sort of brain damage.  Good Lord, I hope I'm not right.  That poor family.  :(

 


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I just watched last week's episode. I guess I'm the only one that isn't getting irritated with Kailyn. In my opinion, she's just doing what she has to do to survive. She obviously doesn't want to be with Jo, yet she has nowhere else to go. I don't think she should focus on going out, but she is young, and working very hard in addition to going to school. Going out with the coworker guy is probably the only outlet she's got.

I couldn't believe Jo's mom's comment about how if Kailyn doesn't want Jo in her life, then they won't be either. Come on, lady, you're the kids grandmother! If you ask me, his family are the wishy washy ones. One minute they say they will always be there for her no matter what, and the next minute they're basically forcing her to lie and pretend like she wants to be with Jo.

I'll be glad when she's out on her own.

 

I'm about to have to fast forward through Chelsea's scenes. I just can't take it anymore.

 

I wish Jenelle and her mother could live in peace together, Kefier is no good for her. I don't think he's a bad guy, but he has zero motivaton to actually do anything with his life.

 

Corey and Leah are the same as always, cute couple, great parents...I hope their daughter is ok.

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I just watched last week's episode. I guess I'm the only one that isn't getting irritated with Kailyn. In my opinion, she's just doing what she has to do to survive. She obviously doesn't want to be with Jo, yet she has nowhere else to go. I don't think she should focus on going out, but she is young, and working very hard in addition to going to school. Going out with the coworker guy is probably the only outlet she's got.

I couldn't believe Jo's mom's comment about how if Kailyn doesn't want Jo in her life, then they won't be either. Come on, lady, you're the kids grandmother! If you ask me, his family are the wishy washy ones. One minute they say they will always be there for her no matter what, and the next minute they're basically forcing her to lie and pretend like she wants to be with Jo.

i agree with this. i feel so bad for kailyn she's got the worst lot of any of these girls. it seems like no one has ever been there with unconditional love for her in her whole. and she still has her life together so well, given the circumstances. she's working two jobs and going to school! and there is jo's mother allowing her son to act like a complete UAV to kailyn and offering her "unconditional love" but only under certain conditions. i'm so sick of seeing her tell kailyn that they'll always be there and support her no matter what and then the next episode kailyn is getting lectured and chewed out for trying to have any life outside of jo. 

 

i can' believe some of the nasty things jo says to her. and i remember how nasty he acted on 16 & pregnant as well. the previews for next week with the police getting called really scared me. i hope they don't use the fact that as jo's parents they have money and are there to support him as a weapon in a custody battle if it comes down to that, but it really looks like they will. the more i see of jo's mom the more manipulative she seems. :(


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I'm so glad Kailynn moved in with her mom.  Jo & his mom were being so horrible to her when she came to move out her stuff.  Jo saying that Kail was going to take off with Isaac.  Give me a break!  He knows she won't do that, but I wouldn't put it past him in a second.  His family is sneaky.  I can't believe they wouldn't at least give her clothes back.  What a joke. 

 

I'm so glad Adam and Chelsea are done (again).  He is so awful for her and Aubree.  It looks like Megan will be there to pick up the pieces once again.  Please, Chelsea, let this be the last time!

 

Jenelle stealing her mom's credit card and heading out to Jersey with that lazy boy, oh my word!  I was dumbfounded.  Barbara is going to flip her lid next week.  How did she not think this was going to go badly?  Seriously!

 

I'm glad Leah is getting a second opinion, but I don't think it is likely to change.  The doctor they saw was really short with them, like "Her spine is fine. Bye."  Then again, it could have been edited this way.  I really hope they get a good geneticist.  I think that will bring all the missing pieces together.  I feel like this is a long episode of Mystery Diagnosis.  I'm not really that thrilled that she is considering postponing the wedding.  I wonder what happens next week that makes her think that they should.


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I'm so glad Kailynn moved in with her mom.  Jo & his mom were being so horrible to her when she came to move out her stuff.  Jo saying that Kail was going to take off with Isaac.  Give me a break!  He knows she won't do that, but I wouldn't put it past him in a second.  His family is sneaky.  I can't believe they wouldn't at least give her clothes back.  What a joke. 

 Yep. They are full of it over there. His mom makes me sick. She is enabling her son to treat women badly.

I'm so glad Adam and Chelsea are done (again).  He is so awful for her and Aubree.  It looks like Megan will be there to pick up the pieces once again.  Please, Chelsea, let this be the last time!

  I hope they're done for real.

Jenelle stealing her mom's credit card and heading out to Jersey with that lazy boy, oh my word!  I was dumbfounded.  Barbara is going to flip her lid next week.  How did she not think this was going to go badly?  Seriously!

 Jenelle is so immature and irresponsible. I have also noticed she does not say bye to Jace when she leaves the house, she treats him more like an object than a person, much less her own child.

I'm glad Leah is getting a second opinion, but I don't think it is likely to change.  The doctor they saw was really short with them, like "Her spine is fine. Bye."  Then again, it could have been edited this way.  I really hope they get a good geneticist.  I think that will bring all the missing pieces together.  I feel like this is a long episode of Mystery Diagnosis.  I'm not really that thrilled that she is considering postponing the wedding.  I wonder what happens next week that makes her think that they should.



 

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I can't believe the emotional abuse from Jo! Not only calling her a whore, but when he said that she didn't deserve to be out in the sunshine and that she should be in a cave? WTF?? What freaks me out the most is how calm he is when saying such cruel things. Kailyn needs to get a good lawyer and her as far away as she can!

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When Jenelle picked Keifer up it looked like he was walking out of the woods.lol  I think both her & her mom need therapy, they're both doing alot of things wrong.  I figured out who the mom reminds me of though - that wild/crazy jesus loving woman from Wife Swap.

 

I hope Chelsea is done with him for good, especially after he was blaming her for him cheating on her.  

 

That dr Leah saw was horrible.  He completely dismissed her concern about Ali not bearing weight on her legs.  She's 8months old she should be.  It was interesting about her limbs being smaller though.

 

I never saw the first couple of episodes & I don't think I saw this series of 16 & pregnant.  If Kailynn could move back to her moms so easily why wasn't she there before?

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Was that the woman that was like "I SMELL SOMETHING!" and would start retching around the house because she smelled something "evil"?  That was one of the only episodes I've seen.  It scarred me.  LOL.

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Wow, Jo and his family are outrageous!  Holding Kailyn's clothes and things until she pays him back?  Hello?  She borrowed the money to pay for college so she could make a better life.  Not just for fun or something.  And she is working 2 jobs and going to school and taking care of a baby.  They are so wrong.  She is not going to run away.  He might though.  Scary stuff.


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I hope Jo's mother is ashamed when she watches this episode.

 

Adam at the fair where it was inevitable he'd run into hundreds of women he'd slept with made me laugh.  He loves himself so much.  Poor Chelsea, begging him to hold her hand while her friend looked totally uncomfortable.

 

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Does Jenelle have no ability to predict how her actions will cause negative reactions?  She stole her mom's credit cards after so much recent strife.  It looked like they were high while driving.  I alternately feel so bad for her and then so angry.

 

I also hope Jo's parents eventually see how horrible he treats Kailyn.

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Not in any way excusing Jenelle's terrible behavior, but I think she does that stuff because she's going to get yelled out no matter what she does anyway, so why not have some fun while she can?  She probably figures she's going to get kicked out anyway, so why not make it be for something big instead of spilling milk on the couch or whatever. Jenelle's best shot is to get away from her mother, finish school and become finacially independent and just stay away from her mother. Unfortunately, where does that leave Jace? He's the one that I really for bad for.

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I have to say, I was frustrated that Janelle didn't even seem able to see that what she did (stealing her mother's credit card) was wrong.  And she never even apologized to her mother for it.  And then there was Adam taking zero responsibility for his part in what went wrong with the relationship.  It's very frustrating to watch.


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I have to say, I was frustrated that Janelle didn't even seem able to see that what she did (stealing her mother's credit card) was wrong.  And she never even apologized to her mother for it.  And then there was Adam taking zero responsibility for his part in what went wrong with the relationship.  It's very frustrating to watch.



Me, too. I have no words for Adam, he's just a huge UAV.

 

As for Jenelle, I really don't feel bad for her. I mean, I do, when I see how crazy her mom acts but then she does the most irresponsible stuff, and it's like, hello? Don't you get that this is not making things any better?!

I also did not fall for her holding Jace and crying "I just want to see my son" during their big fight. She wasn't concerned with seeing Jace when she took off to NJ, or when she was out partying and her mom was taking care of him. She's only conernced with Jace when it benefits her. Such a shame. Poor Jace....I also think that Barbara bad mouthing Jenelle to Jace is very hurtful to him.

 

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I'm nodding my head to all your posts about this week.  What a train wreck!

 

Jenelle treats Jace like a stuffed animal.  She only wants him when she it will help her cause.  It's sickening.  I can't believe she stole Barbara's credit cards.  That was stupid.  If she had the money to pay her back when she came home, why not just use the cash?  It makes no sense!  It was pretty obvious she took along her favorite herb on their trip.  I recognize those eyes anywhere.  Why would she do that on camera though?  Is she not worried about any consequences?  It's mind boggling!

 

I'm glad Kailyn got her stuff.  Jo was being a total UAV during that whole encounter.  DH said Jo's dad was being a total UAV for not stepping in and telling him to knock it off.  I'm surprised it didn't escalate.  I can tell you that I would have flipped my lid  I was getting worked up just watching it.

 

I was a little surprised that Megan walked right back to her same spot at Chelsea's beck and call.  Some people don't learn, I suppose.  Adam makes me sick.  He's ridiculously immature. 

 

I'm starting to wonder about Leah and Corey.  I know they do end up married (thanks for the spoiler alert, MTV), but I can't help but think she doesn't want to.  She flaked on him once already and went back to her old boyfriend.  Who is to say that won't happen again?  Proceed with caution, Corey.

 

 


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I'm nodding my head to all your posts about this week.  What a train wreck!

 

Jenelle treats Jace like a stuffed animal.  She only wants him when she it will help her cause.  It's sickening.  I can't believe she stole Barbara's credit cards.  That was stupid.  If she had the money to pay her back when she came home, why not just use the cash?  It makes no sense!  It was pretty obvious she took along her favorite herb on their trip.  I recognize those eyes anywhere.  Why would she do that on camera though?  Is she not worried about any consequences?  It's mind boggling!

 

I'm glad Kailyn got her stuff.  Jo was being a total UAV during that whole encounter.  DH said Jo's dad was being a total UAV for not stepping in and telling him to knock it off.  I'm surprised it didn't escalate.  I can tell you that I would have flipped my lid  I was getting worked up just watching it.

 

I was a little surprised that Megan walked right back to her same spot at Chelsea's beck and call.  Some people don't learn, I suppose.  Adam makes me sick.  He's ridiculously immature. 

 

I'm starting to wonder about Leah and Corey.  I know they do end up married (thanks for the spoiler alert, MTV), but I can't help but think she doesn't want to.  She flaked on him once already and went back to her old boyfriend.  Who is to say that won't happen again?  Proceed with caution, Corey.

 

 


 I agree with everything except the Megan part. Now, we only know what we see on TV, but I'm assuming Megan and Chelsea have been friends for awhile, and that's what friends are for. I know that when I was in a bad relationship with XH my friends were glad to support me anytime I needed them.
I also would have flipped my lid on the whole Jo situation. It doesn't surprise me that Jo's dad didn't step in....he had to learn that behavior somewhere, you know?

 

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I just felt so bad for Megan.  Chelsea picked Adam over her and basically kicked her out of the house.  If my friend did that to me, I wouldn't be running back so quick, but that's just me.  I hold grudges.  LOL.  Megan said on her twitter she is pregnant.  Her and Chelsea will probably stay really close now, which does make me really happy for them.


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Did you guys know Megan is now pregnant (and expecting a boy)?  Can I mention that now that the celebrity gossip rules have changed? shy.gif


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What?? I had no idea....I hope we can discuss.

 

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omg....I simply cannot STAND Adam. Enough said. I used to like Jo alright, but now I see him as a potential abuser, to be honest. He creeps me out and reminds me a lot of my ex with his devoid-of-emotion hateful statements. narcissistic for real.

 

I wish I could just snatch Jenelle AND Jace up out of that situation. Barbara makes me sick the way she badmouths Jenelle in front of Jace. that is wrong wrong wrong. My mother used to do that to me. I wanted to slap Jenelle silly with that attitude about the crfedit cards. You can see though that the entire relationship is one great big passive aggressive battle for control. I bet anything Jenelle was caught in the middle many years ago just as Jace is now. I really feel srry for Janelle. I don't think she is a bad girl, and I don't think she wants to be a bad mom. But lord she is CLUELESS. I'm glad she is in school and working. I see effort, I do. And I think, with her mom's rules abut Jace, she is not going to be able to get that really close "I would do anything at all for my kids" bond if she can't even take him to the park alone. It's that "mommy bnond" that motivates so many teen moms to start making better choices and stick with them. I worry aboutJanelle's ability to maintain her good decisions, like staying in school, without that motivation, and without any payoff in terms of her relationship with Jace.

 

Megan seems like a good person and I'm sure she will make a good mom.

 

Leah, well, I love Leah and think she is a great mom, but she is immature. She needs to be happy with Corey and settle down. I wonder how much of that cold feet stuff was drummed up by MTV for the show.

 

Kailyn gets respect from me because I would have knocked Jo's self righteous, self centered UAV self right out. Shame on his parents for not being what they said they would always be to Kailyn. I get her updates on FB and she seems like such a sweet, unpretentious girl. Very mature for her age...she JUST turned 19....she acts so much more mature to me! Isaac is SOOOO cute too!


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