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Beware of this Nickelodeon show

Hi all. I'm trying to let other parents know about this situation with Nickelodeon where they hired a softcore pornographer to create a kids show (Bella and the Bulldogs) seemingly based on a sexual fetish. Most of the relevant info is contained in the picture attached. It's fairly bizarre and inappropriate all around.

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The poster is pretty bizarre. Are you genuinely suggesting that the sign "Vanilla Swirl Chocolate" is about fetishes and not about ice cream?

The show really needs to be judged on its own merits.
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I won't click on the attachment, but it looks like a cute show.
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I removed the image. You don't need to post an image of soft porn to convince anyone of a need to protest a real issue. Just inform us of where you got your information and where it can be found online associated directly with Nickelodeon and we can check it out directly.

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I removed the image. You don't need to post an image of soft porn to convince anyone of a need to protest a real issue. Just inform us of where you got your information and where it can be found online associated directly with Nickelodeon and we can check it out directly.
Hi. No porn was posted! Softcore or otherwise (unattached image is here if anyone is interested: http://imgur.com/rxMMkPJ - there's no nudity or porn). The show is on Nickelodeon - apparently it's their top rated show. My son (16) actually brought this to my attention and I thought it sounded really weird and not good. I looked into it and the information does check out.

I guess there are people out there who wouldn't mind their kids watching a show created by a pornographer with subliminal fetish messages in it (designed to go over their heads, most likely) but it's nothing I'd want to let either of my two daughters watch.

Just thought others might be interested in knowing about it.
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The image included a picture of a woman in a bikini posing suggestively with a statue of a bull. IT was pretty out there. (And not safe for work, if anyone is wondering about that.)

The show does not appear to me to be a problem.
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So a picture of a woman in a bikini is a bit too much but a kids show created by a pornographer is just fine. That's... interesting.
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A picture of a woman in a bikini posing with a bull statue is not an image I would want to explain to my kids or my boss.

A children's show - whoever it was created by - should be evaluated on whatever merits it has or doesn't. Many kids shows appear to me to be oversexualized, but that's an issue I prefer to call out on the basis of material in the actual show, not on the basis of what else the creators of the show have been involved with. When we run across material inconsistent with our family values, I explain how and why I don't want to watch. There is a big difference between "I don't like the way these characters treat each other, or behave to their families," and "I am worried that the guy who wrote this may be sneaking in subliminal messages about a sexual fetish."

A lot of people in the entertainment industry have some porn credits, for a variety of reasons. Most use better pseudonyms than this guy.
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A picture of a woman in a bikini posing with a bull statue is not an image I would want to explain to my kids or my boss.
Fair enough. I have to say, I would have been happy to not learn and see a bunch of the things I've seen in the course of looking into this.

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Many kids shows appear to me to be oversexualized
Same here. This one left a trail of evidence of intent, though.

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...but that's an issue I prefer to call out on the basis of material in the actual show, not on the basis of what else the creators of the show have been involved with.
That's fair enough too, and in this case I think it's pretty clear that Butler has indeed slipped quite a few references to his favored sex fetish into his kids show. He actually joked about doing such a thing when he was first hired by Nickelodeon. Would anyone have ever noticed if he hadn't previously made a film about this same fetish? Probably not. But he did, and people noticed.
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There's a petition about the show now:
https://www.change.org/p/nickelodeon...n-s-television

Please sign and share if you agree with it.

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After being hired by Nickelodeon, Butler joked on Facebook about turning “Nick” into the “Kinc” network, posting a photo of himself posing in front of a giant Nickelodeon logo with the letters rearranged and suggesting titles for sex fetish-inspired kids shows. Joking about such a thing would have been inappropriate enough for a Nickelodeon employee but Butler went on to do exactly what he joked about doing.
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References to such an abusive and psychologically violent fetish clearly have no place in a children’s show.
https://www.change.org/p/nickelodeon...n-s-television
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