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#121 of 234 Old 01-01-2004, 09:44 PM
 
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Oh, Beth! The end of pregnancy can really be a challenge. We all hope to feel great the entire time, but sometime in the 3rd trimester most of us begin to feel all the changes adding up. Your body has been through a lot and there is more to come. It sounds like you are doing just what your body needs you to -- Listening to it! Sounds like you're getting a lot of "slow down" messages. It must be what your body needs. You are a wise woman to heed it's cries. Wishing you peace and relaxation. In a matter of weeks you'll be holding your new babe in your arms and all this will just be a distant memory.


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Wow Claire!! That is wild! I will be anxious to hear what the U/S shows (if you do decide to have another).

Beth - I can totally relate. I'm due 1/18 and am so uncomfortable I can hardly stand myself. I can hardly walk b/c if I don't have bad cervical pain, then the baby is on a nerve in my thigh. It hurts to roll over b/c it feels like rubber bands are all that is holding my pelvis together. I never felt like this with dd. I have strong contractions every morning, then the baby starts dancing around right when I try to go to bed. I believe in my body 100% but hate that I am so uncomfortable/anxious. I want baby to come when he is ready but then on the other hand, I want him out now! I try to spend most of the day lying down but it is hard with a toddler. So instead I'm trying to just focus on her and our last weeks together , just her and I. She seems to be giving up nursing for good, although she does still latch on for a minute every night. She also pats "nummies" and lays her head on them. It is all very bittersweet for me.

Anyhow, I'm rambling here. Thanks amyamanda for the words of encouragement also. I try to remind myself that I've been waiting 9 months, what is another 2,3,4 weeks??
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HOLY SPARKLIN! Wow-if you're having twins too, I'll know it's an epidemic. First my girlfriend has twins in November, then I find out I'm having them and now maybe you. It would be so crazy wouldn't it? HOw neat. I can tell you that last week my emotions were so crazy. Trying to figure out the birth, the nursing, the sleeping...all of the craziness. Now I'm feeling so much calmer about it all. Other than my rapidly growing belly which is kind of hard to accept. I'm only 25 weeks, but have the belly of someone 35 weeks. That's hard, but I'm working on being positive. Please trust your intuition. I really felt that it was twins for 2 months before I found out, but kept denying it because certain people thought I was crazy to think that-like my mom! So listen to your voice and see what it tells you. Talk soon!
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wow! wouldn"t that be wild, Sparklin!! Let us know when you do!

Mamajaza--sounds like your intuition is telling you the answer. ANd yes, I also know how hard the partnership thing can be....DH and I had the hardest year of marriage yet this year...still working on it, but it's hard, no doubt. Sending wisdom vibes your way~*~*~~**~

Amyamanda--thanks for the link. I signed up. I need to get more in birth planning mode. It's coming up so soon now. I think I'm about at the top of my third trimester. I can't believe how it's sneaking up on me!

As for those at the end, I felt the same way last time, w/our first freebirth. It's one of the hardest times of preg. really IMO. I think it's just your body and mind's way of wrapping the whole thing up.....I was miserable and full of doubt last time and then it ended in a wonderful birth. Just letting you know that you are not alone, nor is it necessarily a "bad" thing KWIM? It's the darkest before the dawn.......Happy birthing!!
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2much2luv--

I'm sorry you are feeling low. Don't lose confidence now, in the home stretch! Part of that feeling may even be because you are getting really close--the hormones and all. Kind of like transition is for some people during birth--that feeling of despair. You might just decide to take it as another sign that your body is gearing up for labor.

I think that a big part of what makes pregnancy beautiful is what we are willing to go through to have our sweet babies. You can do everything as right as possible and still not have things perfect. Our bodies are NOT perfect, any more than we are. Plus, it's a pretty complicated process--odds are that something is going to go differently than how we want, right? It doesn't mean something is wrong.

Another wonderful thing about pregnancy is how many things CAN be "wrong" and everything still turns our RIGHT in the end. It does show what a huge range of normal there is in pregnancy and birth!

I have to tell you, I do not personally enjoy pregnancy for the most part. I have had hyperemesis both times now. This time I have been sicker than the last--I've had 2 completely nausea-free days in this pregnancy--Day 1 and Day 2. I hate it but it is so a part of my life at this point, it hardly rates extra consideration some days. The thing is, is that I know that this is not how it is supposed to be ideally, but that does not make it go away, yk? I have tried everything in the book to prevent/make it go away. I really don't think my body should HAVE to be sick to make a baby, yet here I am. I do trust that my body is doing the best it can. And I KNOW my body makes great babies. So I also just have to trust that there is a reason I experience what I do, and it's not because I've done something "wrong", if you will, neglected my body, ignored my intuition, or had the wrong mindset, or whatever. Maybe someday I'll figure out what my body needs to not be sick while growing a baby. And maybe it'll even be something I can fix! But maybe not, too.

Well, this is supposed to be encouraging, but I don't know if that's how it's coming across. I hope you start feeling better (at least emotionally!). It does sound like what you are experiencing is pretty normal, if that helps. And I agree with some of the others who say, if it feels better to sit down, then, by all means listen to your body and sit down! Think of this time as extra practice listening to your body before labor begins.

I'm not going to comment on Claire's news cause I've already commented elsewhere. Except I will say this--maybe twins would be more likely to come an extra week or two or four early. :LOL Not that I'm suggesting you WANT your baby(ies) to be born too early or anything, but...think of this. If you do have twins it is possible that the EDD they gave you is wrong anyway. All they had to go on was baby's size on the u/s and if there are 2 it seems likely that the one they measured might have been slightly small for dates compared to a singleton. Therefore they might have given you an EARLIER date if they'd known it was 2! Follow that?

For those of you who don't know, Claire and I both have boys born on their daddy's birthdays. We speculated before we even got pregnant about how cool it would be if we had the next ones (girls?) on OUR birthdays. Claire's current EDD is about 4 weeks past her birthdate. Mine, inidentally, is 9 days after my birthday.

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Thanks so much for the encouraging words. Just what I need to hear.

My youngest dd was born the day after my birthday and this time my technical due date is my birthday. We are going to have a busy January and I know someday my birthday will just get lost in the shuffle. But maybe that will be a good thing when I am 30 or 40. :LOL
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Birthdays... My first DS was born five days before DH's birthday. This next (fourth) baby is due two weeks after my birthday. I was born 12 days after my mother's birthday. My first two were both born on the sixth of their respective months. I love the coincidences!

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This first part is X-posted on the March mamas thread:
So, I tried to get that U/S today. But, I was merely reminded why I chose not to go with my general care provider. After a couple hours of waiting, she just called me back. She said that she wouldn't order an U/S without seeing me and measuring me herself. She said that she thought the measurements could be off. When I told her about the midwife palpating my belly and feeling a baby transverse and an additional head in my pelvis, she said that it's nearly impossible to palpate to feel what position a baby is in. Huh?!?! And, then she said that U/S always detect multiples if they are present. They just don't mess up ever. So, it looks like she thinks that probably the MW doesn't know how to measure (after 22 years assisting moms I would think she does, plus I'm huge) or that I have excess water (the MW checked for that and said, No excess water.) or that I have a tumor. Yeah! What fun! Soooo, they couldn't get me in today, but I have an appt on Monday at 11. Then, if I am still measuring big according to her tape, I can go try to get in at the U/S place. Long story short, it'll probably be another week at least until we know what's going on. In the mean time, I'm not sure how I should refer to my belly -- "Hi, baby" or "Hi, babies." I am so glad we decided NOT to say anything to people in real life about this. I think my mom would be driving me crazy by now. It seems like twins to me, but propbability would suggest that it's just one and I'm freakishly large. I'm trying to not commit myself either way.

I keep trying to see how this time waiting might be for the highest good. If it is twins, maybe I'll need this extra time to get used to the idea before it's pronounced to me at an U/S or if it's not maybe I need this so I can relax a bit more about adding to our family?

It's all just a little insane. Feeling my belly, there certainly seems to be extra parts in there. Whoever in there is really active and kicks all over the place at the same time.

Kendall -- soon after I found out I was pregnant, I asked to talk to my baby before I fell asleep. Then, I found myself on a boat, looking at a little girl. She was so amazing. I just took her all in. Then, I talked to her and asked if she was my daughter, she just smiled and said I should go talk to him. She pointed down the boat and there was a boy there. He said he was my son. I talked to him for a while & then told him that I had to get back. He said, "Wait, I want to show you something..." He ran back down the boat where the little girl was sitting. He sat down next to her and they locked arms. Then, they both looked up and me and smiled really mischievously. So, from the beginning of this pregnancy I was thinking that it could be two. Now with measuring so big & feeling so differently, I think twins would make this pregnancy make sense. That's wild about all the twins you have around you.

Tracy -- Yes, the pack we made to have daughters on our birthdays did enter my mind when the posibility of twins came up! Ha! Also, remember, despite not having a PPAF, I said I wanted to come back from my romantic getaway with husband and find out I was pregnant. That IS the way it happened!

2mcuh2love -- That's wild about your January birthdays. You know a thing or two about shared birthdays. I think they can be a blessing or a curse, depending on your outlook. You're right though, you may really love it when you're 48 and people can remember that your last birthday was at 42.

Peace to you all!

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2much2luv - my dd's birthday is the day after mine also. How funny!

Sparklin - I can't believe they are putting you such rigamorole for the U/S . Usually the OB's seem to be ordering them up by the truckload for most pregnancies. Hopefully you will find out soon.
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Wow Claire-that dream sounds pretty intuitive. I didn't even have a twin dream until November. MY step-mom started having visions about twins in October and told me that the babies in her visions were born at home and they were fine. How crazy is that? My step-mom had better dreams than me about my babies!

Sorry about the pain to get in for the scan. I wanted to avoid DRs at all cost so luckily I called our natural MD who we'd only seen twice and they had no problem putting the order in for me for the U/S. He even called Christmas Eve to tell me congratulations and to tell me about a super juice I should look into getting! Do you have any natural MDs in your area that you could call? They seem to be so much more understanding in your ability to trust your body than regular MDs. I can't believe what that woman said about not being able to palpate to find the position??????? Do they have a clue?

Maybe there is a greater purpose for waiting. I hope it works out for you and your answer comes soon! Our twin homebirth board may start to grow!
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Ultrasounds can absolutely be "wrong!" I just read this morning in Ina May's Guide to Childbirth that ultrasounds have diagnosed twins when there was only one baby and vice versa. Mistakes can even be made in amniocentesis, so remember to take u/s testing with plenty of salt.
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I haven't been measuring myself at all, but thought that maybe I would just for the heck of it. So my question is, how do you go about it? I need step by step instructions ffrom those in the know. TIA.
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I am starting to think my uterus is kind of big for the number of weeks I am and am wondering where to find what I should be measuring. Anyone have a link to week by week measurements?

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Fundal height measurements - I asked about this a few months ago. Here is the thread - HTH!

http://mothering.com/discussions/sho...threadid=99987
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I am curious about how many people planning unassisted birth are also avoiding most of the usual prenatal care. Are there any people here who aren't using any kind of MW or OB for prenatal checkups at all? Sorry if this is an old topic- haven't been here long.
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Liz - I am not planning on using an OB or midwife at all, except for one thing. We are going to rent a birth tub from my midwife friend, and I may have her just quickly confirm position of baby(ies) and placenta while we're there. We pick up the tub at 36 weeks and I will decide then if I would find it reassuring for her to verify what I imagine I will already know. Otherwise we're not planning on using anyone, unless some extreme situation arises where we feel it's prudent to consult someone with more experience, in which case it would be our midwife friend.

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In the beginning I thought I would be using a mw again. I had a beautiful mw assisted birth the first time and couldn't picture it any other way. When I got pregnant this time I really started having UC fantasies from the very beginning. When I met with my mw I found that she was having some personal issues that seemed to spill over into her professional life. I wasn't as comfortable with her this time. I continued to meet with her for 3 months (three total visits) the whole while thinking that I could do this thing without her. Then finally I decided UC was the way for me. Once I made the decision there was no turning back for me. I felt an amazing relief and a weight seemed to lift. I knew I had made the right decision. Since then I have not had any traditional prenatal care. I don't visit a mw or an OB. I just take really good care of myself and listen to my body. It seems to work for me. There was a point that I was tempted to go have someone palpate my uterus to make sure the baby was in position, but now at 37 weeks I really feel the parts where they need to be on my own. I will be renting a birthing pool from an apprentice mw (making the call today) but she won't be providing any other service. I can't think of anything anyone else needs to do. So, to answer your question, I did have some prenatal care at the beginning but nothing since September and I'm Ok with that.
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I was seeing a CNM for the first 4 months or so. I got my ultrasound with her and didn't go back after that. In the begining of this pregnancy I was planning to use the lay midwife I used last time. When I called her and told her I was pregnant she reacted really strangly. I felt lots of bad vibes from her so I never went to see her. She called since then and we told her we are having a UC and she said to let her know if we need anything...so anyway, once i had decided on UC I thought I might see the CNM until the end or close to, but I started getting a bad feeling with my appointments so I stopped going. Sometime I wish I had someone to go to now but I am really glad that I am turning into myself and using my own resources to get through these last weeks.
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I went to a midwife practice at a birth center for two appointments, then stopped going and decided on UC. I haven't seen anyone since and don't feel the need to. I have decided to be guided by my intuition which is quite strong, though I realize that this might sound mighty flaky to many people. Oh well, my birth not theirs.
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My computer died. Oh, what a time for this! I start classes this week & am bumming time at a friend's house trying to reconstruct my lost syllabus. And...giving an update you guys.

This is my update:
Went to the primary care physician this morning. She said that I was only measuring 4-5 weeks ahead according to her tape & technique. She said that it wasn't too far off & didn't think I needed an U/S. Said that the last U/S measured everything perfectly & no need for another. Said that I could come back in 2 weeks to remeasure if the MW kept finding me measuring large.

Soooo, no U/S. Just waiting. I've decided for my own sanity that it's just one. We'll just have to wait and see. I'll try to not remember how wacky she was the first time I went to her to get approval for U/S. She palpated me said I was 16 weeks along and due in May (I would have been pregnant for a total of 11 months if that was the case). She was odd. Anyway, I'm saying one babe until my placenta has arms, legs and a head. Just kidding. It's got to be ONE! For my own sanity at this point.

Hope you guys are doing well. I'm sending love light & peace to all the mamas that are due soon!
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Sparklin--SOrry to hear you're still in limbo land. That's gotta be crazy....what a reminder that you never really know anything huh??? Sending you patience and sanity vibes~*~*~ LOL

LizD--we did no traditional prenatal care last time or this. I see chiropractor as I feel necessary, but really, we just hang out and let it grow! I half-heartedly keep track of weight out of curiousity and check my BP if I happen to be near a machine. That's it as far as "traditional" stuff,...though I do plenty of my own "stuff" too. HTH
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Well ladies, I have about 2.5 weeks until EDD (whatever that means) and I'm really starting to feel like it could be sooner. I'm starting to notice feelings like I had with dd at the very end. I wonder if I'll go early. I'm starting to feel a little stressed about supplies because I dragged my feet and never ordered a birth kit. I guess if it comes down to it I can just use a bunch of old towels and things we have around here. Dh is supposed to get us some cord clamps from the med. supply store and I really can't think of anything else that we can't live without or don't already have. Anyone know what the bare essentials are?
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We didn't use much... Some absorbant materials to catch fluids (chux pads or old blankets/towels), cord clamp and knife/scissors, blanket to wrap baby in, postpartum mama pads, Arnica. I also had some Shepherd;s Purse on hand but never used it.
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Mothernature, how exciting! I hope it is soon for you. I can't wait to hear your story.
I will be 39 weeks on this coming Tuesday and I am feeling the excitement. My other natural birth was exactly one week "late" so that is the date I am trying to be patient for. I have really impatient moments and then I get over it and get my patience back for awhile.
The good thing is baby moved down last night. I can't tell if she is "engaged" or not but I felt lots of pressure and twinges in my cervix and groin and I can breath now!!!! Very exciting. This baby has been a hi rider the whole pregnancy so it is good to be able to breath and eat a bit before getting heartburn.
I am having lots of warm up contractions that I am loving. I just embrace the feeling of my body doing what it is meant to do and getting so excited for that day or night really soon when I will finally get to meet my baby.
Sending wonderful birth vibes to you mothernature.
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Well, I think it is my turn to ask for some encouragement. Or more specifically, "be patient" vibes. I am officially one week from my "due date" and am really tired of being pregnant. I feel like all I am doing is waiting waiting waiting. I've gotten everything done that I wanted to get done, I went through the nesting and cleaned house top to bottom, went through the 3 weeks of contractions - this past week my body gave me a rest and I have slept better than I have this entire pregnancy. I thought for sure that that was a sign that labor was around the corner. I'm wracking my brains trying to figure out what is left - is there something holding me back from going into labor? Then I remind myself that I just need to be patient! I had dd the day before her due date and I guess I was thinking there was no way I would go over this one but that was stupid because who knows. I keep telling baby to come when he is ready and that we are ready for him. My dd keeps asking me when the baby is coming out.

Anyhow, I hope you guys that are also close are more patient than me and peaceful birthing vibes to everyone. I'm just hanging in there, I know it will be soon - I just have to keep reminding myself of that!
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Ok I will send some "be patient" vibes your way! Keep in mind that no matter when the baby is born, it's going to be soon any which way! This is what I try to tell my doula clients when they get to 40 weeks and consider going along with the induction plans made for them. Even if the baby is weeks late, it's going to be soon! Or the baby could be born tonight! As you well know there's just no way to tell.

Lots of luck, though- I am only 17 weeks and already impatient, in some ways! I am thinking of what baby things we have and need, UC or MW, supplies for the birth, who will be there- but it is way too early, really, to do anything other than make patchwork or something to keep from brooding. Also as a doula I am attending births all the time so my head is just constantly on this subject, which has advantages and disadvantages.

So, again, be patient and find things to do to keep busy! Nothing will make a pregnant woman crankier than being finished with preparations and brooding, literally, on when the baby will be born. You could do lots of things with your child(ren) now, since it might be a little while before they have your undivided attention again. Kind of fill them up a little.

And feel plenty smug about having everything done!
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I'm a bit envious that you have everything done. I'm almost two weeks away from EDD and I feel like there is still so much to do. I need to organize my house and do all that nesting stuff, but I did get a lot done today. I would love to be sitting on the last two weeks playing with my 3yo and waiting. I might a make some big dinners so I won't have to cook after the new arrival.

I hope you have yours before mine arrives. I want to have a baby in my belly while I read about your beautiful UC birth. Maybe you just need to meditate and spend a little time on you. I'll send you some be patient vibes if you send me some of that nesting energy. Let's swap.

You might also want to have a date with your hubby followed by a passionate round of lovin'. That usually gets things going.

I'm watching for your birth announcement.
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thechrysalis, I am so with you!!! I am one week and 2 days from my "due date". I have good days and bad days. Yesterday was a horrid day. I felt crampy and icky all day and went to bed early and slept and slept. Woke up feeling better but still a bit grumpy so I missed church and slept and slept. Then I felt great and have been feeling great all day now. So all this makes me think maybe the baby will come tonight. Why do I even entertain these thoughts for more than a second??? My other natural birth was one week "late" so I am expecting the same this time. That gives me about 2 more weeks. : So I know I will be disapointed in the morning to have no baby yet even though I KNOW the baby probably won't come yet. Anyway, it is a horrible game I play with myself.
But think how close it is. I was thinking about 17 days today and how short that is. Just had a thought actually, maybe I will give myself a big job to do each of the 17 days... That might work. I just feel that if I had something to do I would be better. Like you I have cleaned all that I wanted to clean and have everything all ready. Motherhood is all about patience.
Good luck though. I am with ya.
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Hi guys,
Here I am, on my due date - no baby yet. I've been losing my mucous plug for three days now, kind of gross but exciting at the same time! I've been having lots of contractions but this afternoon started having ones way up high and pretty frequent, but not too uncomfortable. My mom arrived yesterday and I decided to just be honest with her (she knew about the hb but not the unassisted part). She had a few concerns but has been very supportive and I feel like a huge weight is off my shoulders now. She is here until Saturday so I'm just hoping she gets to see the baby before she leaves!

I'm actually really glad my mom is here now as it is a distraction for me, although most of the time (so far) I feel like we are all just sitting around, waiting for me to go into labor But my dd is enjoying having her grandma here, although I think she might be getting sick. She's been running a fever all day and took a nap this afternoon, something she hasn't done in months.

WEll, that is my update. Hope everyone is feeling good and sending out peaceful labor vibes to those due soon!
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hey there all you almost due mamas! just wanting to send you some *~*~*~*~Patience vibes*~*~*~*~* and some *~*~*~*~peaceful labor vibes*~*~*~*~*!

Looking forward to hearing the news about all these wonderful babies!


Doing good on this end, almost 22 weeks now, babe is moving up a storm, and i am finally starting to feel a connection to the belly babe. Seems like it took a while this time around. I guess i'm just too busy to think about it much, but when he/she is squirming and kicking it's easier to notice, kwim?

Started a prenatal yoga class tonight, that's awesome! Been going to the chiropractor, ah bliss! And i've decided that since we're not spending the money on a midwife, i get to have a real massage once a month, maybe more towards the end. I'm am so going to treat myself!!

How's everyone else doing?

mother of invention, currently raising hell with four great kids, dd, 15, ds, 15, ds, 11 and ds, 8. also gestating a new wee one! due 9/29 whistling.gif

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