I know it doesn't really matter what my mom or the doctor or anyone else thinks but I would love to hear what mamas with the same birth/ health philosophies as I have to say about it. How do you mamas feel about baby checks? What have been your experiences after birth as far as that goes?
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The doctor didn't ask for his records. Apparently one of my older children's records was lost when I stopped vaxing him and I didn't have any trouble either when I had to take him in for specific concerns.
You can find most of the info online to do your own WBVs, which helped me gain confidence, but right now I couldn't tell you what height/weight percentile he's in, just that he's "big for his age".
I might be on the "out there" spectrum, but my daughter has never seen a doctor- and she's just a few weeks away from turning 2. Well, I took her to a chiropractor at 3 or 4 months when she refused to nurse any way besides lying down because I thought that might be a spine thing, but other than that, no WBVs at all. We weighed her regularly with the fish scale we had from the birth and she was never sick enough to see a doctor, so we just skipped it all.
My oldest will be 3 this year and he has never had any reason to see a doctor. Same with my youngest. If there was ever an actual need for a doctor then we would go. Otherwise, I don't see the purpose.
UC/UP/EBF/AP/CD/BW, Waterbirthing, Homeschooling, no circ, no vax.
Expecting #8 on Dec 6th, 2011
Now that we've formed a relationship with our local family dr I'm really comfortable seeing her only when it's needed (usually a few times during the winter months if/when illnesses get to a point that I want to treat with antibiotics) I've felt more and more that she really 'gets' the way we do things (that I'm comming in for information& support in deciding a plan for treatment, not to have decisions made for my family) and I'm really happy to have that relationship. My youngest has never had vaccines or well-baby visits, and they've never hassled me about it, though I used to feel they were a little more insistent on that kind of thing with my second son... I'm not sure if it's just because they've gotten to know us, because they have become more relaxed, or just because its clear that I'm a confident mama of 3 rather than a confused young mom.... Maybe they all talk about how wierd we are after we leave, but whatever it is, It's working for us!
So, the things I'd say are worth considering when deciding if/when to take baby in are:
-are there requirements for birth cert. or other documentations you might need?
-do you want any tests/screenings/vaccines?
-do you want to establish (or do you already have) a relationship with a care provider incase something comes up and treatement or support is neccessary?
-Is it worth appeasing family/friends/etc by having a professional say baby's OK even if you feel it's otherwise uneccessary?
Lia Joy Rundle CLD Self Directed Woman Self Directed Childbirth
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I am still deciding on vaxes so we will have to wait until we are either planning our next out of country vacation or other unforseen circumstances.
on sunday, i called the doctor to report that he hadn't nursed, but he said that was ok. i called every lactation consultant in the phone book and LLL, and everyone was on vacation. i called every emergency line, and they could only see me the following week (so, a week from monday, labor day!).
i was freaking out!
we got to the doctor at 9 am on tuesday and he was dehydrated. now, every book told me to NOT give him water. so i didn't. i just kept trying to nurse him and he would not latch. i would pump my breast and no milk was there (it didn't start until about 9:30 on tuesday, honestly). i was calling everyone i could think of, and finally a friend refered me to a retired midwife who said that the baby would be fine, don't give him water!
well, at 9:15 am the doctor said to give him water. SO, we gave him water and he was thirsty! poor baby. at 9:30, i went to the LLL meeting and they helped me pump my breast and feed him with a spoon.
i was doing that about every 30 minutes and giving him water.
on wednesday, we went back to the doctor and the baby was not dehydrated. he asked me to see and LC, and i told him that all of them were on vacation (every one in the phone book). he felt that it was urgent, so he called the hospital (i'd called them too!) and told them the situation. they got me an appointment for the next day. doctor said to see him on friday.
that day, we learned that his tongue was too strong, so we had to teach him how to not push out the nipple. she taught us to train him using our finger--so we pumped, had a syringe with a tube, attatched that to my finger, and i would feed him that way every two hours.
on friday, i showed the doctor how it was working and he wanted to see if the baby would latch. he wouldn't, and so we called the LC again and she recommended a nipple shield. at the end of the day or on saturday, we had him latched with the shield.
the doctor saw him again on monday, and he was fine. he wanted to see him again on friday, and we did that. then we went the next friday, and then were given two weeks, then three. and then it was "just whenever."
so, we went through a process, but it turned out ok.
at 6 weeks, he latched without a shield and loves nursing.
on thursday, i was finally able to get ahold of a lactation consultant.
The GP here (GP - not really a 'doctor' ...doctors stick to the hospitals) normally sees your baby at the 2 month check. Followed by their first vaccinations if thats what you want. We don't do vaccinations but I don't have a problem with them listening to my babies heart and lungs and checking their testicals if they have them! lol
And though we are planning a UBAC - we will be calling the MW (that every woman here gets when they are pregnant) after it is all done and dusted - so I imagine things will go just the same as they did after having my son as well!
The one time that was bothersome was when a really snotty nurse came in and told me that she would "let" me accompany DD to the hearing test in the nursery because the other nurses had told her I was insistent on staying with DD the whole time. WTH? She was almost angry and made it seem as if I was really weird for wanting to stay with my baby. With those birth hormones coursing through me it was TORTURE to stay in the nursery though because there were SO many newborn babies who were screaming in their cradles for their mommies but they were just being totally ignored and all alone. I had this barely controllable urge to tell someone to just pick them up and cuddle them, PLEASE! I almost ran out of there when DD was done with her test.
Anyway they let us out the next morning but we had to go back to the doctor every few days for a month or so for weigh-ins where they tried to get me to supplement; we didn't though and she was just fine, never had a bottle (well, until she was like 10 months old but whatever). And they stopped worrying when she started gaining again.
ETA: It was fine the way it happened for us because I had gotten all my prenatal visits in and I had delivered at the birth center there before, so my story checked out and we didn't have any CPS visits or anything, we got the birth certificate and so could get the SS number and all. It did say she was born at that hospital (grr) but I can live with that. As far as legalities go, I think we did the right thing for our situation, because we were on Medicaid and really did not want to ruffle feathers as far as trying to convince people that we were responsible about our UC etc.
Unassisted birthing, atheist, poly, bi WOHM to 4 wonderful, smart homeschooling kids Wes (17) Seth (10) Pandora Moonlilly (6) and Nevermore Stargazer (3) Married to awesome SAH DH.
He's a nice doctor. I'd recommend him to anyone who wanted their child to have a doctor. We went a couple times after that, then stopped.
My son is 2 1/2 has had every WBV recommended and I'm ok with that. We've gotten some great advice and some not-so-great - but I can filter it and respect that the pediatricians opinions and concerns will be dif't than my own. He's never been a really sick boy - but I've brought him to the doc twice for a very bad cold (that eventually resolved no thanks to the doctor) and for pink eye (that resolved thanks to the drops they prescribed).
My daughter will continue to receive regular check ups. I'm big on preventative care and we do vax. I like getting her looked at and having a relationship with a doc in case she really does get sick.
Lizbiz, wife to my man who makes me smile, and mom to one bouncy boy (08/07), one sassy girl (12/09), and one sweet new boy (08/12).
with our last doctor, i *loved* him. he was our family doctor. he was in relationshpi with us. we discussed things, he wasn't pro allopathic, even though he was allopathic trained. his undergrad was english, his post grad was in europe in anthroposphical and homeopathic medicines. so, he was much more likely to go alternative.
we are looking for a similar doctor here, or at least someone with whom we can have a relationship. it's like a touchstone or an ally.
he was the only doctor for whom i felt that way.
I don't believe in "well-child visits", and so, even with my hospital born babies, they only went to their first two check-ups after their births. Since then, they have each been to the doctor twice - once for my son to get stitches put in and then taken out of his finger when he was one, and once for my daughter when she was seemed to get sick (throwing up for a week straight) every month, and then when I thought her lymph nodes might be too swollen. (Both times, they found nothing was really wrong.)
I was brought up in a "natural" home. My mom did mostly natural remedies and whatnot and didn't take us (or go herself) to the doctor unless absolutely necessary (say, for a refill on asthma medication).
My children have visited the chiropractor far more than any other doctor.
I have quite a few doctors and nurses in my family (and among my friends)... and many of them don't think I'm absolutely nuts (although some do). There really is no sense in taking the kids in for "well child" visits. It is likely a doctor won't notice anything in those visits (although, yes, on rare occasion, one might), but since I spent all my time with them, I most certainly do notice changes in behavior and body- so if there is an issue I cannot take care of on my own, I seek medical help. (Often, with my friends and family- unless they recommend I go in to see a doctor.)
We are a medically hands-off family much like my mother and father were. We rely on natural remedies and healthy foods, exercise, etc - and if we need something above and beyond that, we will seek a doctor's attention.
Christian Texan Mama to Merika (5/2005), Nolyn (1/2007), Keagan (UC baby 9/2007), Four miscarried lovelies, and sweet Evangeline Rose who arrived 9/7/2010 (home/water birth). Expecting our fifth blessing March 2012! Viva la Vegan Pregnancy, my friends!
Otherwise, collectively they've seen a dr under a handful of times- once for issues to do with having been in a collision and twice for breathing issues, both with ds3. Ds2 broke his collar bone, and we went to confirm what I had already assessed, although once we were there, we realised how unnecessary it was because the time it took us to travel there was sufficient for knowing whether there was any reason for further concern anyway; we should have turned around and gone home instead...
Anyway, the new baby will also need a medical professional to sign off on the statement of live birth, but we will be seeking the assistance of a midwife for that purpose. The thing is that the hcp has to also confirm that I was pg, so we haven't worked out how to do that exactly. We'll have to discuss it with a midwife soon though. Our friend lives 2200 kms away now, so we can't ask her to do it again for us.
I think it is completely fine to not see a dr as a matter of course; we're not machines and we don't need check-ups and maintenance like our motor vehicles do. We can just live and meet our needs as they arise, recognising that health is a whole person reality and not an event or even possible to evaluate in the 5 minutes drs give their 'patients' during an appt.
Well, I've been absent for 8 months, and during that time, it turns out that I have completely transformed. You are all precious. Thank you for being here and sharing your lives. You are truly a gift. Jan. 23, 2012
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