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#1 of 15 Old 10-26-2010, 12:18 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Hi all. First off I want to say this site has been extremely beneficial, & inspiring to me.

Here is my situation. I was diagnosed GBS + with my last (3rd) pregnancy. It was a hospital birth & I was treated with antibiotics.

I am currently 27 weeks, UP'ing & planning a UC. I am curious to know how many of you would order an at home test if you had been previously diagnosed? Also what are some treatments anyone would recommend?

I have heard of hibiclens & plan on using it right before delivery. I am not sure if there are treaments I can/should do before hand?
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I wouldn't bother to test, but would do the hibiclens protocol. It has been found to be as effective as antibiotics in reducing GBS infection in newborns.

1 1/2 teas hibiclens(4% chlorhexidine solution) with 1/2c + 2 teas water.
In sitting or semi-sitting position, with hips slightly elevated, slowly instill the wash into the vagina using a peri bottle. You're not going for high pressure here! Use at onset of labor or when membranes rupture. Repeat every six hours until birth. If possible, make sure you get a dose shortly before birth.

In addition, I would be diligent about watching for signs of infection in the baby. The majority of babies who get sick do so in the first 24 hours. You're watching for for difficulty breathing, grunting, poor color, problems maintaining color, or extreme sleepiness that interferes with nursing.

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Just wanted to add that is very rare for a baby to actually get sick from a GBS positive mama. I can't remember exactly but it's like 1-2% chance I think.(without antibiotics.)

I also read that the antibiotics can cause more harm than good when it comes to getting baby sick. I believe I read this in this article...
http://www.preciouspassage.com/treat...up_b_strep.htm

I believe there may have been another article I looked at on it but can't remember.

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I tested positive w/ my 3rd, never tested since, assumed I could be. Did herbals garlic and hibiclense w/ my last.

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Just wanted to add that is very rare for a baby to actually get sick from a GBS positive mama. I can't remember exactly but it's like 1-2% chance I think.(without antibiotics.)

I also read that the antibiotics can cause more harm than good when it comes to getting baby sick. I believe I read this in this article...
http://www.preciouspassage.com/treat...up_b_strep.htm

I believe there may have been another article I looked at on it but can't remember.
It is very rare. Full term babies have a 1 in 200 chance of getting sick from GBS. (From Journal of Midwifery & Women's Health, Nov/Dec 2002 pp495-496)

Preterm babies have greater risk, as do those born after a labor with membranes that have been ruptured for a long time. (Don't have specifics on that now.)

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My midwife has been delivering for 29 years, has never used antibiotics, has only used hibiclens for the past 4 years, and has NEVER had a case of GBS in an infant. So the 1 in 200 might be the average, but she's delivered over 650 with not one case. That article posted is excellent, very thorough , and is what made me concerned about antibiotics, so I found a hb midwife who would do the hibiclens. With all the talk of it being rare though, it doesn't feel rare when it's your baby who dies, so that's where risk vs. benefits come in. I don't know of any ill-side effects of the cleanse, but the risks of the antibiotics for me is not worth the possible benefit. Also in that article is you scroll to the end it has herbal treatments that you can do before birth, but I don't think much research has been done on the effectiveness of that (garlic, probiotics etc.). Good luck

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There can be some burning with the hibiclens. From a slight "warming sensation" to something a lot more uncomfortable depending on the individual woman.

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In the two years that I worked as an RN at a hospital nursery, we had one baby get full blown GBS. Mom was pos, of course, her water had been broken over 24 hrs at birth and she had not had any treatments. As the policy stood, she should have been treated. We did not catch that baby was sick for about 24 hrs. When my shift came on, I was worried because he was 24 hrs and was not keeping his temp up at all. At almost 8 lbs, that should not have been a issue. And he was barely eating (mom was feeding formula so it was easy to see). When my shift called the doc - night shift calling at 9 pm on a weekend - we were worried. Long story short, the baby got very very sick and ended up staying with us for almost 3 weeks.

So, what I am trying to say is, do the protocol, watch for all those things listed by PP and also pay attention to baby's temperature and desire to eat. Being sleepy is normal but lethargic is not. And, most importantly, listen to your "gut." If you are worried that something is wrong, get it checked out asap - "don't wait and see" with a newborn baby.
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i had gbs with my 2 kids and am pregnant now and tested negative (!!!!) i was considering the hibiclens if i did have it

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Thank you for all of the helpful responses.

I have decided to skip the test.

I am starting a garlic regimine tomorrow, that I will continue until delivery, and I will be doing the hibiclens protocol for delivery.
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I am so glad to have come across this forum! It is the most natural and supportive of least intervention! Praise God for this site!

Just wondering has anyone "pretended " to swab for GBS (since they allow you to swab yourself in bathroom) and just got a negative result because you didn't swab anything. To avoid all the pressures of this stupid test? Would they be able to tell in the lab that you swabbed nothing? Or are they just looking for the GBS bacteria and don't care what else they see?

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My Dr has always swabbed me. I've never heard of you being allowed to do it yourself.
I probably would just swab though. They will know something is up if there isn't anything at all on the swab.

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Apparently sometimes they do let you swab yourself.  Still, I agree with you 3LilChunklins... lying about this kind of thing is not a good idea.

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Does anyone have a link to a reputable study (not anecdote) showing the effectiveness of Hibiclens for GBS prevention?
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I've heard of people pretending to swab. I don't know how that would realistically work. Excepted results of a culture would be things found normally growing in the vagina/anal area, not absolutely nothing.

 

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Does anyone have a link to a reputable study (not anecdote) showing the effectiveness of Hibiclens for GBS prevention?

 

http://evidencebasedbirth.com/groupbstrep/ has a lot of info, backed up by journal articles. There aren't a ton of studies, but there are some. However, the results aren't really conclusive - it appears effective in reducing newborn colonization with GBS and overall newborn sepsis from all causes, but not necessarily GBS infection in the newborn. The article suggests that infection of the newborn (as opposed to colonization) begins prior to birth, so external actions (such as hibiclens) taken after onset of labor are ineffective, while antibiotics during labor begin treatment.


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