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#1 of 18 Old 07-09-2011, 08:10 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Things went really well with my UC but i tore. Initially i did not think much of it, there really hasnt been much pain except when peeing which ive always read as "normal" specially if you tear or have any abraisions. Now that my bleeding has significantly slowed i was able to really check things out and i have two tears. The first looks to be a 2nd degree alongside the scarring of my previous episiotomy/tear site from my last birth (4th degree tearing,2.5 yrs ago). The actual scar part is slightly pink and hard and the other is normal colored and soft. It looks pretty bad but there really no pain there now. But what concerns me is that it extends a good inch.

Second is a labial tear. its about an inch long and its roughly 1/3" wide... this burns when peeing so i tend to lean off to the side now to avoid that. Other than that it doesnt bother me.  Should this be something i get checked out or can i leave it be? Is it too late to get stitched up?   I have read in midwifery today about using seaweed for perineal tearing but nothing about labial tears.  Any tips would be great =)

 

 

 

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If the two sides of the tear line up well and sit together without fiddling with it, then it will probably heal up fine.  If it's gapping, then it may heal more "open" than you might want it--will eventually fill in, but won't be/feel/work the same as it did pre-birth.  A friend chose not to have a labial tear stitched many years ago, thinking the two halves would find each other.  They didn't.  She jokes she now has three labia. ;)  You could still get it stitched up if it seems like it needs it--sooner the better, before it heals funny.

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after my birth, i wasn't sure if i'd torn. It didn't look like it, and it didn't feel like it, but the motion of the muscles there was strange and I was wondering if I had a tear.

 

so, i looked at pictures online and then called the hospital. the doctor got on the line and told me that as it had been more than 24 hrs, they couldn't do much until it healed and then to a repair surgery later. 

 

but, that was three years ago, and things might have changed since then.

 

i would say that you can easily get it checked out -- go to the hospital or make an appointment with your OB and see what your options are, or you can just let it be and see how it heals and talk to an ob about it later when you get your pap smear or some such. 

 

good luck with it either way!

 

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I tore with my UC as well 10 months ago and it took probably a bit longer to heal than if I would have gotten stitches but I was dead set against getting them because it was what made my 3rd birth so horrible.  I read some info I found online and as long as you can rest as much as possible and keep your legs together as much as possible for a couple weeks you should heal fine by yourself with a 1st and 2nd degree tear. 

I did end up healing fine.  I wasnt able to have sex for a good 5-6 months but now (tmi?) its much better than it was before.  The doctors stitched me up so badly with my 3rd that sex hurt until after I had my 4th and tore in the same place and healed naturally.  So I would defiantly let things try to heal naturally and then later if you still think there is a problem to go in and get it checked out.

 

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I've had 2 labial tears, one was stitched, one was not, neither completely healed.  Both look much better now than they did right after the birth.  My case may be the exception, but stitches just don't seem to 'take' with me, and I wanted to throw it out there, that it might not matter whether you get stitched or not.  I did find that the swelling post-birth made the labial tears look severe, but eventually things assumed a relatively normal (unnoticable!) state.  I think labial tears take longer to heal, they definitely did in my experience.  Congrats on the birth!

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I tore from my vagina to my labia, so there was actually a notch in my vagina (I have large labia though so didn't tear one in half, but would have had I had small or even normal sized ones).  I didn't really think much of it, just let it heal by itself.  I have a little scar there and a tiny notch, but my husband can't tell the difference during sex.  Though sometimes it feels a little sore there afterwards.

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Just thought id update this as the thread had new replies.....

Its been almost 5 months since my daughter was born and healing of the tearing went really well. I opted to not use anything and the labial tears healed really fast, within 2wks, thought they were really a mild tearing. The area where i retore along my previous scarring took a bit longer however it never really had a ton of pain. It is still quite open but it does not affect sex or anything like that and my husband hasnt said anything so i assume all is well. We did wait quite awhile before resuming those activities, partly for optimum healing but also because of i had a slight cystocele which has healed since.Im not sure if using seaweed (which i read on midwifery today could help) or getting stitiches would have aided in healing more closed but honestly i hate the OBs and dont quite mind letting it heal as it has. 

thanks for the advice ladies!

 

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what a sweet picture!

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Glad everything healed okay!  I don't regret letting mine heal by itself either.

 

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what about using superglue? I've heard that can be an option


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what about using superglue? I've heard that can be an option



Yep.  But it's really only for perineal tears.

 

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What is it with the labia?  Just really thick skin?  I have opted to be stitched (and glued) and to heal naturally and the outcome is always the same- mine heal. but in two separate pieces.   Oh well, battle scars. I guess ;)

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Does anyone know where to source hospital-grade superglue? I've been wanting to have some on hand just in case. No midwife here carries it that I know of.

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Have you tried looking online for it?  That's really all I can think of...you can get a lot of things online. 

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I just had a look and OMG! The stuff that you need (and which you'd want, because it is apparently less toxic) is Histoacryl Blue. It's what was used to glue my daughter's forehead back together a couple of years ago and it healed beautifully. But it is around $165 for 5 .5ml measures which is the smallest quantity you can buy. Maybe it's why the midwives don't carry it, it's just cheaper to stitch? That blows. My friend had a nasty near third degree tear a few months ago and was stitched by an experienced, compassionate OB and she's still in horrible pain :( I swear I'd rather raid the kitchen draw and superglue my own fanny back together.
 

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If the tear is superficial (skin and mucosa only) gluing together w medical grade stuff can work well. But with tears involving muscle or anal sphincter, the muscle can retract from the edges of the tear and if they're not brought back together and sutured, what can happen is that the wound LOOKS healed but the muscles don't work properly. Incontinence and pelvic organ prolapse become much more likely.

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If the tear is superficial (skin and mucosa only) gluing together w medical grade stuff can work well. But with tears involving muscle or anal sphincter, the muscle can retract from the edges of the tear and if they're not brought back together and sutured, what can happen is that the wound LOOKS healed but the muscles don't work properly. Incontinence and pelvic organ prolapse become much more likely.



Gotcha. I guess at this point - 4th baby, head down, no previous tears - I'm not expecting anything major. My last baby came out with a nuchal hand and gave me labial 'grazes' X4 (you need to imagine getting fisted by Wolverine here) but they didn't go right through and healed extremely quickly, in a day or so, so I wouldn't have glued them in any case. It was something I was thinking of having on hand for the minor stuff, should this baby happen to be much bigger than the others.

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Oh wow that's expensive haha.  I have heard good ol' Krazy Glue works.  Check out the link I posted above, a few posts back.

 

I had vaginal and labial tears from my 4 lb nuchal hand baby, but I think I explained that above.  I don't think I tore with my last baby (8 lbs), but everything was...different.

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