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#31 of 58 Old 05-18-2005, 05:46 PM
 
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Hello all, mind if I join you?
I was thinking I could go ahead and continue with my prenatal care, and then when I went into labor just not go to the hospital. Is that possible? I mean is it naive to think I could do it that way?
Well anyway that is my story. I look forward to getting to know you all.
not at all naive! it's actually JUST THAT SIMPLE.

Congrats on the bundle to be, and

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Medicaid, Anyone?

has anyone used Medicaid as a backup? or for prenatals with a CPM or OB (ick) then had a UC?

I've never dealt with them, but we are more then qualified. I'm leery for a few reasons

1) hate generic prenatal "care"

2) do they keep tabs? like will I have to go monthly and then they'll wonder where the baby was? Wondering if it will make it unusually sticky, like they'll come looking for me or demad to see the baby or such when I file a BC.

I need proof of preg or prenatal care for the birth cirt. I also need a medical person to see the baby and vouch that it's ours (think we're too close to the border l :LOL )

I do want prenatal care, but MW is only partially covered and I'll feel as if I'm using her. I think there are a few CPMs that do take MC though (at least 1)

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Thank you for the welcome. And thank you for telling me I am not naive to think this could work.

I don't know about medicaid and UC. I had medicaid when I was pregnant with Ds. I will admit that they are a little weird when you start wanting to do things differently (like selective vaxing). They are a government agency, so there is a chance they might over react when you had the baby at home. Is there anyone in your area who you could ask these kinds of questions?
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Medicaid, Anyone?

has anyone used Medicaid as a backup? or for prenatals with a CPM or OB (ick) then had a UC?

I've never dealt with them, but we are more then qualified. I'm leery for a few reasons

1) hate generic prenatal "care"

2) do they keep tabs? like will I have to go monthly and then they'll wonder where the baby was? Wondering if it will make it unusually sticky, like they'll come looking for me or demad to see the baby or such when I file a BC.

I need proof of preg or prenatal care for the birth cirt. I also need a medical person to see the baby and vouch that it's ours (think we're too close to the border l :LOL )

I do want prenatal care, but MW is only partially covered and I'll feel as if I'm using her. I think there are a few CPMs that do take MC though (at least 1)

For my pregnancy, I was on Medicaid and saw an OB . At the very begining, I did everything by the book like a good little patient. That landed me with five ultrasounds because the doctor never took more than ten seconds to find a heartbeat, a nasty glucose test, and a false positive AlphaFetoprotein (Down's Syndrome) test, with which the doctor told me I must get Amniocentesis done, so that if it was a true positive I could get an abortion. That did not sit right with me at all. I mean, even if my son did have a genetic deformity, how could I give up someone I created? However, he kept pushing me to schedule the amnio and saying "you don't want to have a messed up baby!". So, I called the clinic he wanted me to go to to schedule the procedure. Well, come to find out they didn't accept my insurance, and it would cost something like $4,000. So, I had my excuse not to get it done (thank the gods). It was at this point I started questioning everything being done to me, and during my searching I found UC. I tolerated the OB for as long as I could stand. When he started getting rude with me (I was almost eight months pregnant), I called and cancelled my appointment and told the receptionist I no longer required his services. When they asked why, I told them it was personal. I remember they once tried to call me to schedule my delivery (you know babies are incapable of picking their own b-days!), but I ignored them. I then went on to successfully deliver a 10 pound 6 ounce healthy baby boy without even a scratch (Oh yeah, and the doc had said he was going to be a girl, so I had all of this pink and purple stuff!). I was 40 weeks and three days, going on twenty-three years old, and was in labor for thirteen hours.

When he was two days old, we took him to our chiropracter to make sure his spine was in alignment, and then at about two weeks old took him to a family practice MD who specialized in holistic medicine, and was supportive of our choice to breastfeed, keep our son intact, and not to vaccinate. That way we had proof that he was perfectly healthy (the doctor was amazed at how healthy he was, and told us we did an excellent job). From that point we went to our local government's office, where they told us that since I had prenatal care, they wanted proof of that (I had an ultrasound picture, but they wanted a written document of some sort). Oh, going back to that OB's office was a moment of anxiety for me. However, it went easier than I thought, because all I had to do was talk to the lady running the desk and she wrote me up a note with the dates I went there. I never once told her I had a UC, and she never asked.

Next time I am just going to pay for one prenatal visit at a clinic to prove I'm pregnant, that's it. They don't need to know what I'm doing. Just be polite and firm to whoever you are talking to.
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Welcome Shannon I am so happy that you joined us! There are many women who have had prenatal care and just stayed home for birth. The most important thing is to listen to yourself and your babe and do what feels right to you.

I cannot believe I will be hitting the third trimester in another week and a half! So happy to be getting closer to holding my boy.

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I am going to get medicaid to have just in case, but I have to have a dr.'s note saying that i'm pregnant in order to get it. It seems stupid to me, and I don't even have a dr. so I have to find one. I want to get a pap done, anyways, and I just found out planned parenthood won't even give a pap to a pregnant woman- grrr.

My son is on medicaid and is unvaxed, and we've never gotten any grief about that. I told my caseworker I was planning a homebirth and wanted medicaid just in case, and he didn't act like there'd be any problems, although he was like "You aren't going to see a doctor?!?"
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hottmama, I have read that a pap during pregnancy is a bad idea. I can't remember why, something about the results being inacurate. My midwife said that while it is the policy at her practice she doesn't usually do them, and any way my insurance won't cover a pap on a pregnant woman. So there must be some reason. However a positive pregnancy test from planned parenthood should be enough for medicaid. I know it was for me.
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Huh, I've never heard that. I meant to get one before I conceived (the last one I had was at my first prenatal appt. w/ Julian), but kept putting it off. In fact, the only pap I've ever had was while pregnant, as that was my first ob/gyn appt. in my life (I was 18, am now 21). Well, can't say I'll mind too much if that's the case. I also want to get tested for STI's, just in case. I haven't been tested in 3 years, and my partner has never been tested. I doubt that I have anything, but of course need to know for sure.
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Just popping in. I'm still sick. But, sending my love to my UC mamas!
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Hope you're feeling better soon Aurora.

"childoftheMoon" you are geeting close. I wish I had my beginning third trimester belly already

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help? I have to work early am tomorrow but I'm hyper crazed with all my early preg. hormones. I might get m/s in awhile and that might help...but for now I can't settle down, I can't stop thinking-planning and reading about cool things I can make for my new baby.

Does anyone have a pleater, used for smocking? which one and is it easy to use? I'm been a tad obsessed with smocking for the last several months. I just found a few gorgeous patterns and well...any help? Can 4yo boys were smocking :LOL I'm having a vision of beautiful Beren in lederhosen with a smocked shirt under. I can make a dedication gown for the baby at least, and Abbs can certainly use some smoked things. And I have a new niece. and well, I guess I still love it myself from when I was little. Help. I don't take caffeine and I got tons of sun and excercize and I'm nursing! Feel like I have ants on the brain.....

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Carrie I have had that alot lately too. I am exhausted, but I can't sleep because my brain won't shut off. When I have trouble with it I just do a bit of yoga relaxation. It seems to help. I concentrate on relaxing my whole body, and I count as I breath in and out. Eventually I just fall asleep.


Ok I am pretty certain now that UC is definately for me. I have been reading on the Born Free website, but I have a ton of questions. I am probably going to drive you all batty with questions by the time I am done.

My first question is about Rh incompatability. I am O- and Dh is O+. Ds is also O+. I have had the rhogam shot in the past. I feel comfortable with not having the Rhogam shot at 28 weeks this time around, but I definately want one after delivery if the baby is O+. How can I get it? I was thinking I would just call my midwife's office and tell them I delivered at home and now I need a rhogam shot. Is that possible? Will they let me just come in and get the shot? I really didn't want to discuss UC with my midwife. I am afraid it would upset her. I really like her and want to keep seeing her for prenatal care, and well woman care. How do I do this? I definately don't want to go to the hospital after delivery for the shot.

My next question is about cord care. What do I do with the umbilical cord after delivery. I know I want to deliver the placenta before cutting the cord, but then what? Do you clamp the cord and use just normal house scissors, or are there special scissors that you can use? Do you even have to clamp the cord?

Okay that is it for now. I am sure I will have more questions very soon.
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this time around, but I definately want one after delivery if the baby is O+. How can I get it? I was thinking I would just call my midwife's office and tell them I delivered at home and now I need a rhogam shot. Is that possible? My next question is about cord care. What do I do with the umbilical cord after delivery. I know I want to deliver the placenta before cutting the cord, but then what? Do you clamp the cord and use just normal house scissors, or are there special scissors that you can use? Do you even have to clamp the cord? Okay that is it for now. I am sure I will have more questions very soon.
Ok here goes: on the rh suff. I'd just go to the mw afterward. You probably won't get out of talking about the birth, I mean she's a caring lady that loves birth right? she'll be excited for you and will want all the details. I don't think they'll be any judgement involved. Still, I struggled witht he same thing w/ my ex-MW. I was finally honest. she didn't try to talk me out of it, but later called and said because of legalities she's have to "fire" me and that it wasn't personal. We're still on good, if no longer great terms. But I do think that's mainly my OWN fault about the guilt I was feeling about dis-inviting her to our last birth.

cord care: you can disinfect normal scissors, but for a blunt cut I bought a $2 pair of umbie scissors from In HIs Hands supply. I'd wrap up the placenta, sorta Lotus style until all the blood is in the baby, or dried up, then tie and cut. We cut eli's twice because his momma is a perfectionist and thinks stups are ugly. wo bought clamps too, really cheap.

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I'm already changing my plans as I dream about this baby

my regrets last time were that we had no one to celebrate with. The happy event of the birth was overshadowed by the way in wich we did it, as far as friends and family were concerned.

Maybe because of the place I am in now, maybe because I like doing it a bit differently each time...I feel the need for good, supportive women around me.

I don't know any, other then the mw's and doulas I know. I'm hoping to goito a birth workshop in Aug and pray I'll meet some there.

I don't feel needy, but I do feel an emptiness in this particular part of my life.

So, dh and I spoke, and we both want someone (s) there supporting us, mothering our needs and taking care of the rest of the gaggle of kids we have so we know they're safe durring the birth.

I don't know if this means we'll be hiring a mw or not. I mean I don't want the birth to be any different except to have more love and support around.

wishing you all a good weekend,

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I just spent a bunch of time thinking I was reading our thread, but it was actually the chat thread. I was wondering where all the pregnant women were! :LOL But, now I don't have time to read up on this thread. I'll cross post my update here that I did there, too. But, then I'll come read to see what's going on with everyone.

My update: I've found some good medication to help with Hyperemesis G. It's not great though. I'm 12 weeks. I'm still losing weight. I'm still vomiting 3-5 times per day sometimes more. I'm unable to eat. AND, on top of all this, I get my prescription by going to an OB!!! OMG! I've never gone to an OB in my whole life!!! The couple times I saw him, I've been so out of it I didn't ask any questions. And, neither did my husband. (He's a good medical lemming, FYI) NOW, that I'm coherent, I have SOOOO many questions to ask him. Ug... if he'll listen and answer!

Also, I called the MW we used for my other births. My DH was getting nervous about not calling her yet. I called her but on my terms. I told her I'd like to consider setting up an appt in July. But, that I didn't need anything right now. We talked homeopathics for HG and just chatted. I explained my hesitation to call her in the first place -- that I didn't want a MW. I'm not sure how this will all unfold. I want to make sure my husband is feeling that we are getting care and yet that my needs are being met. I feel ok about having a few Prenatal appts. As far as birth goes, I'm wondering what the most un-UC I would be willing to go. Perhaps MW in the car? REally though, I want to be just alone with perhaps my DH. I'm trying to sort out wants vs needs and avoid the botched UC from last time (my DH called the MW AND I should note, I was not very clear or firm on NOT wanting her called before I ever went into labor). Hmpf. I definately learned that I need to be clearer with the MW (and DH) as to what I want and need.
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Hi all. I am Cathi, from Southside Virginia, and recently found MDC...I had my babies AGES ago! My dd#1 is 27 with 3 of her own,(she was my only hospital birth) then dd#2 (24)was my first HBwm and posterior, doing a 180 before she was born(less than 3 hrs active labor) and Jeremiah,(also posterior) now 16 was my UC. He was my longest labor, but the biggest baby, and proof that just because one is an "elderly" lady-I was 33 at the time, and the girls were 11 and 8- that you can have a safe healthy UC and not have to deal with the medical establishment! I wish I had a board like this when I had them, for support. But now I can pass the message to others, and hope the rest of my future grandchildren will be born UC, or at least at home...(as long as the kids remember there was a REASON I chose to birth at home!)
Anyway, I am a student midwife, doula and CBE for over 20 years, and will be moving to TN soon to finish my CPM...I will remain a resource to Southside Virginia, however, as there doesn't seem to be any one south of Petersburg to either help educate toward homebirth and UC or anyone to attend a hb, besides me...so I will teach whoever will listen! hugs to all,and it has taken the better part of a week to read every post on the complete(all 17 threads!) of the UC board here! I am a member of Birthjunkie.com's UC forum as well....happy birthing everyone!
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Hi Cathi, I'm similar to you. Well, sort of. I have 1 child 17yo, so right around the age of your youngest and I'm pregnant with my 2nd. The 1st was a homebirth with a mw, this one will be a UC. I'm slowly approaching my due dates (yippee!) with officially about 6 weeks to go, but I am hoping it will be more like 4 weeks.

Welcome to the forum. After reading all those threads your eyes must be burning!
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Hello, my UC mamas!

We are expecting a little one this Winter! I am "due" the first few days of Feb. but my babies all come before 40 weeks. I am planning on sometime in January. This will be our second UP/UC. We are very excited! :

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We are expecting a little one this Winter! I am "due" the first few days of Feb. but my babies all come before 40 weeks. I am planning on sometime in January. This will be our second UP/UC. We are very excited! :
YAY! That BORN AT HOME preemie pf is so going to come in handy!!! :LOL

Congrats!!!

Now... I wish I would have changed my name even more... people might get us confused!!!
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YAY! That BORN AT HOME preemie pf is so going to come in handy!!! :LOL

Congrats!!!

Now... I wish I would have changed my name even more... people might get us confused!!!
I know! I can't wait to get it. I guess now I don't have to sleep with it under my pillow! :LOL

Don't worry about the name. Like I mentioned earlier, if this baby is a girl the name Aurora is at the top of my list so I might just change my username.

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Just checking in here...its been a while... glad to see this thread is alive and thriving I miss being and don't know if we will have another... but I want to uc again! it was so much fun! enjoy all you lucky mamas!!!

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Hi Jen Good to see you! I have missed you.
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Jen, I have a feeling that a lot of us would just keep on having babies all our lives if we could! Your brith story is just delightful, Jen! Thank you for linking it in your sig!

Cathi -- so cool to have you here! You know www.freebirth.com has message boards now, too, right? Pretty cool!

Cresor -- 6 weeks to go! Oh! That's so neat! Oooh, I can hardly wait... I bet you REALLY can hardly wait! Now, why the feeling you want to go early? Did you in the past?

Brandi- What's shakin'?

So, I'm feeling a little more human these days. I'm ready to stop seeing the OB who's prescribing me meds, but I still need the meds, so I'm going through the motions. He knows that I'm homebirthing and no matter how many times I've told him that I'll stop seeing him when I stop losing weight and am done with HG, he keeps saying that he'll be my Back Up doctor. I've never had one of those in my prior homebirths, I'm not about to start now. Ug. OBs. I REALLY have no clue why anyone would ever choose an OB if they felt they needed care!!! Here's an example why... this is word for word:
Me: I don't want any ultrasound.
Dr.: It's safe. (getting wand and machine fired up.)
Me: It's fine if you feel that it's safe, but I do not want an U/S. I trust my baby is fine.
Dr.: Well, the sound ultrasound to hear the heart beats are a lot more intense.
Me: I've never had that done, because I'm aware that doppler (ooh, do I really know a technical name!?!?) is stronger. I just do not want any ultrasound.
Dr.: You'll have this strapped on you continously during labor. (actually pushing me onto the table ever so gently!!!)
Me: No I won't. And, I won't have an Ultrasound now.

Question -- the thread on checking the cervix. When I get big and close to the end I can NOT keep my hands out of me! I just can't! It's like I'm obsessed with touching my baby's head (I'm usually rather dialated before I go into labor... how do I know that BECAUSE I CAN'T KEEP MY HANDS OUT OF ME!!! ) But, here's the thing, even when I go into labor, I still just want to be alone and touch my baby's head. It's like I can't NOT. But, there seems to be such a "don't touch yourself" sort of feeling on that thread. I can't imagine something that feels so cool could really be that bad. Thoughts?
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Me: I don't want any ultrasound.
Dr.: It's safe. (getting wand and machine fired up.)
Me: It's fine if you feel that it's safe, but I do not want an U/S. I trust my baby is fine.
Dr.: Well, the sound ultrasound to hear the heart beats are a lot more intense.
Me: I've never had that done, because I'm aware that doppler (ooh, do I really know a technical name!?!?) is stronger. I just do not want any ultrasound.
Dr.: You'll have this strapped on you continously during labor. (actually pushing me onto the table ever so gently!!!)
Me: No I won't. And, I won't have an Ultrasound now.
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Oh, I can imagine how mad the OB was!!!! When I was pregnant with my son, it didn't take too much to set my OB off. It sounds to me like your OB doesn't take you seriously. I just hope you can start feeling better so that you don't have to put up with that anymore!!!!!!
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Brandi... I am so glad things are well for you... I think of you too as Lucas was born the day after your precious ... Many blessings for a peaceful gentle blissful birth experience for you and your family as you welcome your newest little one into the world I will check in to see how you are doing soon...

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about cervical checks ~ personally, i felt my dd's head *once*, before i went into labor, and i honestly expected that i would want to check myself during labor to see how i was progressing... but when i was actually *in* labor, it was so intense, and i had such a deep, instinctual feeling that i should !!! keep my hands AWAY from the yoni !!! that i didn't even do the perineal massage or anything that i had been prepared to do. in Ina May's "Guide" she mentions something about clitoral stimulation during labor... but honestly during my labor with my daughter that whole area was very "off-limits" ~ i just had a very powerful urge to *not* touch myself anywhere there. i don't know *why* but it obviously was not something my body needed at the time.

again with the instinct thing, it is. (where is a Yoda smiley when you need it? )
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Klothos, we DO need a Yoda Smilie! :LOL I failed to mention that I'm open to NOT feeling that way this time. I respect that every birth is different and I may NOT want to touch my baby's head all labor. Tuning in is A-1 in my book. Very cool that you listened to your instincts.
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