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Seems like there are quite a few of us running around here. how many do we have?

I'm beginning-middle of Dec.

This will be my 3rd. My first UC.
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I'm due Dec. 26 (ish). My son was born in a hospital with a CNM, so this is my first UP/UC. I am soooo exhausted right now and waiting for my energy to come back. I've felt the fetus move a few times, I think, and that's exciting. It's much earlier than I felt with Julian- I felt him at 14 weeks and I'm 10 weeks now.
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Ooh, I hear you about exhuastion. The need for many naps in one day is a pain! And I am ready to feel like a normal person agian. I just want to eat and drink without vomiting.

My first two were HBs with midwife in attendance. I wanted a UC for my 2nd, but I really wasn't very clear with my vision. I kept thinking I'd just birth before the MW got there. I wasn't very clear with my DH and he called the MW when I started pushing. So, she was there when the baby came and she was very involved with everything. (Pushed for a long time and she was about 45 mins away)
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I don't post in here much, but I do at LOT of reading/lurking. I believe I have more to learn than I do to contribute at this point.
But, I'm here. I'm due around Mid-November. This will be an UBA2C.
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Welcome lurker and friend. When you/if you need support, just ask for it! There are SO many empowering UCAC stories out there! Have you been reading any?

It seems like this early in the pregnancy, there's really not much going on so to speak. I bet we'll all get much more active in posting when we're closer to EDDs.
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Me??? Been reading birth stories??? :LOL

So far the only thing that I can think of that I need support in is fending off nay-saying family. I haven't told anybody my plans yet......but because the hospital around here doesn't do VBACs, they all prolly assume I'm having a elective C/S.
I know it's just a matter of time before some one asks if I've scheduled my C/S date yet. For now I can just tell them no. But what will I say when I'm 41 weeks and they ask??

Oh well. They already know I'm a weirdo. :rofl


And you're right...this board will be jumping in late fall! I can't wait to read/post things like..." Water just broke, no ctxs yet........oh wait, there's one." It'll be great to be able to root each other on!
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I'm due mid Jan, but it's still up in the air as to whether it will be UC nor not. This is my first baby, and I'm afraid of the unknown. I suppose that even those who are not on their first baby have these fears. I would like labor support, but I would not like anyone to "deliver my baby", midwife or otherwise, make sense? So, I've got a midwife who I trust who feels the way I do, that birth is best left alone.But it's not official yet. So, we'll see. It also depends on money, because we don't have insurance. But I don't really want to make the decision to UC based completely on money, kwim?
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I am due sometime in Jan. This will be our 4th baby, 2nd UP/UC.

justanothermama-My first UC was a UBA2C too! It was amazing!

Arora-I am sure this board will be busy come late Fall!

Persephone- I hope you are able to come to a decision you are comfortable with.

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I know it's just a matter of time before some one asks if I've scheduled my C/S date yet. For now I can just tell them no. But what will I say when I'm 41 weeks and they ask??
Hmmm, sounds like it's time to learn your real EDD. I think maybe you're about 4 weeks off, huh? Then, your baby can just come early!!!

Hey, Persephone, welcome to the club. Your decision is a great one, ya know! A lot of moms have to go through technical hospital births the first time to see that that's not what they want. I'm glad you are so well educated and aware of what you want at first baby. Just to give you other options -- it's not all or nothing right now. You know you don't need to choose either, right? There is no harm in giving yourself more time to decide. Here are just some other options that have worked for other women:
- Decide to wait to see if you need a MW prenatally. Post on the numerous resources for UC if you have a question, if you feel you need more info, then call the MW.
- Ask the MW to back up your UC. Put $ in a (oh, what's it called account thingie where money goes) to reserve her. If you end up needing her she knows she has $ to be paid to her. If you don't need her, you just take the $ out of this special accnt. Or maybe she'll be your back up without the accnt thingie.
- Wait a little while. Research some more. Listen to your heart. Listen to your baby. Read some first time parent UC stories. (I'm big into birth stories can you tell, they just seem so empowering and help to visualize what other's experiences were)
- Ask the MW for a discount to just cover X amt of Prenatals and then the well-baby check after birth. With the option to call her for the labor for additional money.
- Hire the MW but be very very clear with her what you're looking for. Do you want her to stay out of the room unless invited in. Do you want her to hang out in the hallway? Do you want her in your view? What do you see her role as? Just gopher and cleaning up? Support your perenium while sitting between your legs? Give instructions? Etc?

I only say this last one out of experience. I wanted a UC with my second birth but was not very clear with anyone IRL about what I specifically wanted from them. I just wnated to have the baby before anyone got there. Then, when I pushed for much longer than I thought I would, I was too far into labor to request what I needed... EVERYONE LEAVE!!!
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Hi, Aurora my twin with an "u".

So glad to have a "seasoned" UCer here with us group of newbies!!! Glad to have your support! Yay! So, excited for you to have a new little one!!!

(We were posting at the same time I think, otherwise I would have said HI!)
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Sixth pregnancy, second baby, first UP/UC. Had a natural midwife birth last time.

Due in December. Just in general.

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Aw, Arora, you're so sweet! Thanks for the reality check. Sometimes I feel weird posting here, because I'm so wishy washy. I don't want someone to say I don't belong here if I end up choosing a midwife. And you anticipated my next question, which was if you could point me in the direction of some first time birth stories. I have some nice ones saved that are very inspirational to me, but none are first time moms. So, thanks for that too!
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Hey, Babs! Thanks for checking in. Wishing you a happy healthy pregnancy.

Persephone, I think anyone supportive of UC is welcome here. Especially people trying to figure out if it's for them! Not that I'm the queen of the UC forums... HARDLY!!! But, that's the general feel I get from the UCers here. Personally, I reach different points in pregnancy where I go on birth story binges. It's like I can't get enough of them, and then I don't read them for a while. So, what are your favorite birth stories?

It just finally clicked with me this weekend that I WILL HAVE A BABY when this is all done. Wow!!! I just love birth so much. And, sweet little newborns. Oooh! I get one! I get one!!! How exciting! I think that's what started my birth story binge. I'll read them till I get tired and then not for a while. I learn so much from other's birth stories. Ahhh. They're great!
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I'm lurking in this thread. We are interviewing a midwife next week, however, if it doesn't work out, we'll be UCing it. I'm due the same week as Persephone there which is really cool because I'm attending her birth I have no "due date" officially though but if I count, it's Jan 16th. I just say "January" though This would be my 3rd birth, my first homebirth (will be homebirth no matter what), and would be my 1st UP/UC if we go that way. *fingers crossed*

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Not all of these are UC, but I find them all very inspirational.

http://rachyllgyne.tripod.com/thebirthofgreyforestwalt/ <-- the first birth story I ever read, and without a doubt the most inspirational.

http://klothos.net/Birth.html (Waves to klothos! )

http://www.thecowgoddess.com/birthstory.html

And there's another one, that I read, that I didn't think to bookmark til later, and now I can't find it. Perhaps I can find the mama and ask her what happened to it.
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I'm due mid Dec but for me its kinda weird. I'm having to plan for 3 births! If everything goes ok I'll UC, if I develop pre-e again and have to be induced (naturally) I don't know if I'll be in the hospital or at home, depends on how advanced the pre-e is. If I get severe pre-e or HELLP again I'll get a repeat c/s because I'm not willing to mess with it having already been though HELLP once. Praying for a healthy and uncomplicated pregnancy this time around!

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Ooh, Persephone, I think my binge is compleat for a while. I've read all of those. Grey Forest Walt is a beautiful story! You konw she went onto have a UC with the next birth, right? She talked a bit in that one how she didn't really want the MWs to attend Grey's birth either. Oh, I see it's right there on the link.

Ok... here's one to add to your favs, I think... it's more a photographic portrayal of a Homebirth. Might take a while to load, but SO worth it. Oooh! http://danielfairbanks.pseconds.com/jude.htm

Hi, Tara! I prefer due month's too. I'm not 100% sure when I'm due this time and I rather like that. In fact, I'm doing my best to forget the week that it's most around. I usually like to add a week so mentally I always go early. Going "late" (even though I've slightly done it) seems awful. So, that's why I always go early... acording to my broadcasted due date.

Hi, Satori, I'll pray for a healthy uncomplicated pregnancy for you, too!
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I'm due around Thanksgiving, but I've told my family I'm due more towards the beginning of December, trying to give myself a week or two of leeway. I don't want them involved!

So I'm 15 weeks this week, and have been feeling random baby movements for the last 3 weeks. I felt my first baby at 13 weeks, and my second at 10 weeks, so I guess I'm just an early-feeler. I am looking forward to the big kicks, though. I use my waking hours in the middle of the night to connect to and talk to baby. . .a good use of hormonal insomnia! :LOL Anyone else having terrible dreams every night, when you do sleep? I am feeling unrested and sometimes have a hard time shaking off the disturbed feeling of all these dreams each morning. Ick.

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I'm 10.5 weeks, and I've felt the baby, too. I have to sit really still and concentrate when I feel it. I felt Julian move at 14 weeks- I was expecting this one to be the same. It's so cool to feel him/her so early, it makes it seem more real (although I'm still not convinced I'm going to have an actual baby at the end of this, haha).
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Are you early feelers skinny minnies? Cause I'm a bit fluffy, and I wondered if the extra padding would make a difference.

I have been having terrible dreams too. A week ago, they were good, happy dreams, but for the past few nights, they have been not good dreams. I won't go into detail here, but yeah, not good. I think it's my anxieties about having a child and birthing, though. Once they get worked out, I think I'll be alright.

Does anyone else feel this way? I have wanted a baby so badly, and for so long, and now, I feel very, "eh" about it. Like I could take it or leave it. I mean, I DO want my baby, but maybe it's that it still doesn't really feel like I'm having a baby? I feel so horrible for feeling like this!
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Hello Folkymom! I'm in for the bad dreams, too. Actually I haven't had any this week. So, maybe I'm not totally in! But, last week were some doozies! I hope they stopped.

I've been feeling this baby, too. In fact, I was thinking it was *probably* it earlier. But last night FOR SURE it was the baby. I was laying awake (yes homonal insomnia here) and I was envisioning a wonderful UC birth (mine, I like to think of how it might happen without actually DEMANDING that it turn out that way) and as I was envisioning pushing out the baby and putting my hands down to feel its wrinkle head begin to emergy KICK! Like a whole body thud. It was certainly the baby! How cool! Nice timing, too!

Persephone, with my first, I didn't feel him until I was further along. It's pretty typical with subsequent pregnancies that you feel the baby sooner. It's kind of like you konw what to feel for. I do think fluffy has something to do with feeling less movement. It seems so for some women, but not for others. I think placenta placement affects movement more though. If its in the front, you're less likely to feel the kicks.

I think I just got out of the "Ah, so what a baby." phase. That's when it clicked in... oh yeah! I get to have a baby!!!
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I've felt movement and I'm not quite in my second trimester yet... I'm quite thin. About 105lbs soaking wet. :LOL

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I'm definitely not a skinny minnie!! LOL! I started this pregnancy about 15 pounds overweight, most of it centered right at my belly - I swear I already looked 6 months pregnant before I even conceived! I did think it would take longer to feel through all the extra flab, but I guess that wasn't a factor.

I don't feel like my dreams are really related to baby-fears - I've tried to figure it all out, but they really have no connection to much of anything, even each other. Just disturbing and oftentimes very violent. I think it's just wacky hormones! (this happens PMS sometimes too.)

And I'm not feeling ambivalent, either - I can't WAIT to meet this baby! I hardly know how I can wait another 25 weeks! Seems like FOREVER!!! :LOL

Arora, so cool that you got that big kick!
(soon we'll all be complaining about how the kicks never stop and we can't get any rest, lol)

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Oh, another question - I could make a new topic, but I'll just keep it in this Nov/Dec/Jan thread - for those of you around 15 weeks or so, where is your fundus? In the week-by-week update one of those baby sites sends out, it says the uterus is just barely popping out above the pubic bone right now, but mine is up at/above my belly button. I'm assuming this is because it's a third baby - anyone else like this?

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I'm due in the beginning of December. This is my first pregnancy and I'm totally committed to UC. Dh was pretty shakey on the idea at first, but I've been reading him UC birth stories every night before bed for the last week or so and he's so excited now! He loves hearing them.

I'm so jealous of all of you who are feeling the baby already. I'm 13w3d and I haven't even tried to start feeling movement yet. I had no idea it was really possible this early. Now I'm inspired to do some meditating and concentrate really hard.

I got a blood pressure cuff and a fetoscope in the mail the other day. Dh is obsessed with the fetoscope. I told him he wouldn't be able to hear anything for at least another month but he makes me lay down so he can check every night. He's so cute!

About the dreams...I've only had one so far, but it was so disturbing I woke up and cried for 15 minutes. I hope those don't happen too often.

The only thing I'm kinda worrying about at this point is rhogam. I just found out dh is Rh+ (I'm neg) and I'm debating on whether I will want the shot after birth or not and if so how to get it. What a pain! I'm really hoping the baby turns out to be neg as well so I won't have to worry about it.

I'm really glad there is such a tribe of UC mamas giving birth around the same time! I look forward to all of your insight.

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Oh, another question - I could make a new topic, but I'll just keep it in this Nov/Dec/Jan thread - for those of you around 15 weeks or so, where is your fundus? In the week-by-week update one of those baby sites sends out, it says the uterus is just barely popping out above the pubic bone right now, but mine is up at/above my belly button. I'm assuming this is because it's a third baby - anyone else like this?
Actually, I was wondering about my fundus too. I'm only 13.5 weeks, but my belly pops quite a bit. I haven't been able to feel where my fundus is though. How do you do this and what does it feel like? I've been feeling around just above my pubic bone. I've even laid on my stomach with my hands under me. I'm a little afraid of pushing too hard.

Also, when can you feel the baby move from the outside, generally? Dh keeps asking when he'll be able to feel the baby kick, but I have no idea. I just tell him I think that's a ways off.
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The only thing I'm kinda worrying about at this point is rhogam. I just found out dh is Rh+ (I'm neg) and I'm debating on whether I will want the shot after birth or not and if so how to get it. What a pain! I'm really hoping the baby turns out to be neg as well so I won't have to worry about it.
RhoGam is such a hot topic in my mind. You mention it and it's like lightening goes off in my brain! :LOL Kind of like if you were at the mall and someone mentioned lovingly Unassisted Birth... your head would spin around and you'd HAVE to talk to them.

I'm Rh- and my DH is Rh+. All of our kids so far are Rh+. I made a very informed decision to not take RhoGam at 20 weeks nor to take it after birth. Before RhoGam Rh sensitivity wasn't a problem until birth got medicalized. If left to nature, blood of the baby and mother do not mix, except in very rare cases that are pretty obvious. Being Rh- with a Rh+ partner, there are certain steps we make sure are followed during birth. After the baby is born, we do not clamp the cord at any point. There is no pulling on the cord. We wait patiently for the placenta to detach. We do not rush this process, even if it takes a very long time. Of course one the placenta is delivered, clamp that cord all you want to, but just not before the placenta is delivered. The research behind this indicates that clamping the cord unnaturally forces the infant's blood up to the placenta thus increasing chances of maternal/infant blood mixing. Pulling on the cord again, forcefully sends blood back to the placenta. Forcing the placenta to come out sooner than intended also increases the risk of mixing bloods.

RhoGam used to only be recommended after birth. But, women continued to get sensitized. So, then they instiutited the RhoGam at 20 weeks rule. And, yet women are still getting sensitised in a hospital setting despite 2 doses of RhoGam. Could this be because hospital routines clamp the cord, pull on the cord and rush placenta delivery? Um... I say yes!

Oh, and I should note, I'm not sensitized to Rh+ blood... even though I've never had RhoGam... and I'm not some miracle woman. There are many others like me!

Ok, off my soap box. Of course... study the information and do what your heart tells you to do.

Wow, so our Nov/Dec/Jan group is big! How cool. I know a lot are exploring UC options. And, that's wonderful. In my own mind, I try to figure out how to get all that I want... what does my perfect UC look like? What does my reality UC look like? What steps am I taking/going to take to protect my UC? Etc.

Oh, and I don't pay much attention to fundus. I mean, it's fun and all, but I always just measure huge. So, I don't give it much credit. (In fact, with BOTH of my pregancies my MW was certain I was having twins, I was so large) This time, I'm ignoring fundus for anything other than novelty fun.

So nice getting to know you all!
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Oh, and I don't pay much attention to fundus. I mean, it's fun and all, but I always just measure huge. So, I don't give it much credit. This time, I'm ignoring fundus for anything other than novelty fun.
LOL - MY husband just chastised me for this. He said, "Quit obsessing - if we wanted all that worrying we would hire someone to do it for us!"

So you're right - it doesn't matter!! :LOL

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Fundus for Fun and Novelty.

I'm almost in my second trimester (or at the beginning of it, definitions seem to vary from 12 to 14 weeks) and I can feel my fundus above my pubic bone. Apparently though, my uterus is strangely shaped and positioned. It's high and tilted forward, and my past pregnancy didn't correct it.

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