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#31 of 47 Old 10-21-2006, 08:04 PM
 
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There are most definitely depression meds you can take while nursing. I was going to suggest the lap band as well but got beat to it. I think it would help a lot to get on anti depressants so you can pull yourself out of that, then you can see other areas of your life more clearly. Then if you still choose to, get a lap band or similar reversible WLS and take it from there. I truely wish you the best and hope you can get healthy and have more babies soon

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on a lighter note...
I'm talking to my dh about this, saying that I am just looking to feel better overall, he says

"Maybe I should start smokin' dope!"





man, he's funny!

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Similar boat, not sure if I'll even be able to have more kids.

Lots of love to you,
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Amy,

I'm very concerned about a doctor who is willing to make a serious psychiatrict diagnosis without seeking specialized advice. A GP has NO BUSINESS making a diagnosis regarding bi-polar, manic depressive or any psychiatric other diagnosis. That is like a mechanic telling me that I need a hysterectomy!!! (Well, maybe thats' a little overkill, but you get my point).

Only a psychiatrist or a clinical psychologist should be testing you for that. Bi-polar cannot be diagnosed with a "short test". It involves indepth psychomotric testing by one of the above professionals. It sound like you maybe clinically depressed, but again, that diagnosis should only be made by a clinical psychologist or psychiatrist, preferrably the former because a psychologist will look at all of the cognitive/health issues whereas psychiatrists tend to just reach for the prescription pad. Depression is one of the most misdiagnosed diseases and even doctors, especially GPs' tend to misdiagnose this.

Explain to the psychologist that nursing is a priority for you and he/she will take that into serious consideration.
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I've been following and can't keep my fingers from the keyboard any longer. My cat has all the symptoms of bi-polar disorder, too, but I'm not putting her on meds. I agree with the PP about a GP not being qualified to make a concrete diagnosis of BPD or any other psychiatric disorder. From the conversation with your doctor that you described above, you never talked about your thyroid. While all of your symptoms can easily be caused by any number of issues, I would start with the thyroid. Your thyroid is the master gland of most of the issues you are having--energy level, depression, weight issues, etc. Please consider asking your doctor for a referral to an endocrinologist who can assist you with managing your thyroid. If you already have an endocrinologist (and you really should), please call for an appointment right away. If you haven't had your thyroid function tested and meds adjusted since the baby's birth, you are well overdue.

I know what it's like to want another baby so badly you can taste it, but you really need to get your own health straightened out first.
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wanted to add.

I've struggled w/depression and anxiety for years. Mainly some PTSD and Generalized anxiety d/o. I was on tons of meds, so much so that I got into a car accident b/c I fell asleep due to being so doped up. 65 mph crashed into a guard rail, I drove away (a Saturn), and I'm lucky I didn't kill someone.

I have been free of all of that for sometime after visiting my homeopath. With one remedy it was all gone. He is in VT if you are near & I am curing my breast cancer w/his help.

LMK if you want more info,
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I am in Ct, but thanks to a kind mama her who introduced me to Wilsons Temperature Syndrome, I got into contact with a naturopath/open-minded doctor and will be meeting him Nov 2. He focuses primarily with hypo-thyroidism.
I agree that the thyroid issue wasn't discussed much with my gp- she just takes my bloodwork and adjusts my meds accordingly. I guess it's kinda good she's not an endo- all the endo's I have spoken to refuse to check t3 levels, but only focus on t4 uptake which is totally rediculous (for those of you follow who metabolism at all)I do need to find a specialist (hoping this new dr will be the one!)
Also- I HATE MEDS! I would so prefer not to take any for many reasons. Mainly because of the unknown reactions.
My dad was on lithium and according to my mom- he never changed his mood. He was never excited or upset...just there. That frightens me. I totally don't want to be a med-puppet.
My gp never mentioned any other meds, and now that I think of it, she really has no business diagnosing me this way. I need to see a professional for accurate information.
Thanks again for all your support. Its wonderful to get help from you mamas!
And if you have anything else to add, please feel free to post or -pm me.
Lots of love
aj

ps- sorry if I didn't answer all you questions- still processing.
I don't know what the name of the meds are.

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2 thoughts: CDNmom is right...bi-polar does has certain criteria, but just about any one can look bipolar on a bad day....Its a serious diagnosis that is over used.

Second thought, have you tried apple cider vinegar for your BP? It may take a while to get the right amt. for you, but my mom has had great success controling her lifelong HBP (started at age 16) with just ACV. She now takes a little less than a tbsp. per day with great luck. Cinnamon is also a natural BP reducer. Good lcuk!
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There are many many meds that are safe for BF. Check out the book "Medications and Mother's Milk"

Honestly, I don't know if you ARE depressed or not??? However, if you are not feeling well, and frustrated about your weight, then I can bet it can be pretty consuming and overwhelming.

I would suggest TRYING to be active this week for 15 minutes a day

Next week make it 20 etc.

Don't DIET, but change portion size cut out one treat like ice cream.

Consider acupuncture for depression, and thyroid

Also biofeedback is excellent for the high blood pressure. It is worth considering.

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amy,

i'm not overweight, but have high BP on meds (higher than yours, too less than 130/90 is good for me) and am hypothyroid, too. being overweight doesn't always trigger the high BP. my sister is a marathon runner and very very slim and she still has high BP and is on meds. the DASH diet ( http://heart.healthcentersonline.com...n/dashdiet.cfm ) is good for high BP and isn't a great diet modification for most folks. worth checking into.

Deep yoga breathing can lower BP, too ( http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/deepyogbreat.html ) and there's even a device for regulating your breathing on the market (there's always some gadget for sale! -- http://www.amazon.com/RESPeRATE-Bloo.../dp/B0007NOY3E ).

i wouldn't think bp of 120/70 would preclude more babies, but your overall health might or might not. if you decide to take the plunge you should read up on preeclampsia. gossamer has a thread here all about it. i know a woman who had it with her 3rd pg when her other two were fine and she wasn't much overweight at all if any. sometimes it just happens. they had to deliver her son prematurely, but mom and baby were both fine after a NICU stay. i, personally, if i were going to have more babies would be happy to go into a pg with 120/70 bp since that's low for me.

as for your depression issues, have you looked at the postpartum depression forum. it doesn't have to come on right after birth is my understanding.

also, are you on synthoid for your thyroid? some folks swear by armour thyroid. i've not tried it myself, but have read glowing testimonials. check out www.thyroid.about.com -- i think she has some info on there about it.

i think all the problems you've layed out are totally fixable and some might not even need to be fixed. i would avoid surgery if possible. that's my general principle on that. do everything you can first before surgery.

hth some, sorry so disjointed. kids are clamoring for my attn.

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Amy, I too can not keep my fingers from the key board. Honestly, if you want another baby, you are going to need to educate yourself and find some more "natural" ways to heal yourself. An ND is a good direction to go if they are more wellness minded. I am not trying to give you a hard time, I just know exactly how you feel. I have been there! Your high blood pressure could just be from life style. 120/70 isn't bad although you are having to use meds. What is it w/o meds? Your thyroid being removed is sad, but I'm sure you could educate yourself on natural foods and supplements to take to help with that.

Ok, I have lost 95 lbs!!! Size 26 to a 16 I too told myself I have to be healthier before I TTC #3 and that's what I've been doing. Do you have a list of goals? This is so key. You have to have goals for what you want before you TTC that way you have something to work towards. You don't need meds (this is my humble opinion and I'm not trying to offend anyone and I know there are instances where it is definetly needed...just overused a lot) and you aren't Bi-Polar!

This is what my 2 cents are:
See the ND and if they aren't wellness oreinted, find another one. Same goes for a Chiropractor! Get a good team behind you!

-Get a high potency mulitivitamin (Metaginics is a great brand...I promise).
Look into 5-HTP and see if it's right for you (helps w/seratonin levels for depression and weight loss).
-Look into Calcium/Megnesium (helps w/bone and muscle strength and calming)
Look into CoQ10...CoQ10 deficiency has been shown to be present in 39% of patients w/high blood pressure...from Encyclopeida of Natural Medicine)
-Get yourself some Omega 3 fish oils
-Look into Hawthorn extracts(can exert mild bloodperssure lowering effects)

-Start looking at food differently! Don't go on a "diet". Dont' look at any of this like that. You need to change your lifestyle for life. When I think about wanting to be healthy and live longer for my children, that's when I lose weight. When I start focusing on weight loss and calories I hit a plateau, b/c the mindset just messes with us mamas who struggle w/food!
I agree w/the mamas who have given advice on a mostly vegetarian whole/organic foods, raw milk and cheese only by the way, fruits, veggies, beans, whole grains (ezekiel products are great). I know this is all overwhelming and I reccomend taking it one step at a time, but I know you want more babies!
You need to relax..find your way. A bath every night when kids go to bed, journaling, a girls night out, yoga class at a local Y (they give scholorships if you don't make lots of money and have great nurseries)...walk, walk, walk. Go on Craigslist.org and get a double jogger second hand for cheap and just walk...w/afriend if you can or just by yourself if only for 15-30 minutes a day at first!
-Remove any mercury fillings in your mouth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm doing this next month!

Our bodies can heal themselves if we just give them the opportunity (kind of like birthing ).

I hope I have helped, not offended, and if you wanna talk more, please PM me!

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Thank you all so very much for your posts. I am planning on talking to a counselor and getting my head straight about my weight. Before Savannah was born, my bp was 120/70- perfect, but the day she was born, my bp was 150/112.(this was 7 hrs after birth-perhaps that had something to do with it?)
Boy, hindsight is 20/20!
I always welcome PM's if anyone wants to share. I feel like I am coming out of my funk this past 24 hrs- probably from all your encouraging posts!!!!
As far a bi-polar is concerned, funny how my GP didn't mention any other meds that could be taken since I am still nursing.
I'm just throwing random thoughts out tonight. It's late and everyone is asleep (accept me!)
I really am thankful for all of you and will keep you posted!

Be well ~ aj

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I'm not asleep either! I read your birth stories...beautiful!
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thanks

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amy, birth can DEFINITELY make your BP go up. did they only use that reading to start you on meds? i have essential hypertension (meaning i always have it and there doesn't seem to be a specific cause) and my first pregnancy caused it to go down and i was off meds while pg. it stayed down, too, until after my 2nd daughter was born. i was hoping pgncy would cure it, but alas it went back up after her birth and stayed up. it definitely was higher the few days right after her birth, too. afterward i read about postnatal preeclampsia which i hadn't known could happen, but i don't think that's really what it was since it went back down to slightly high levels instead of staying up at that 150/100-ish level. anyway, you can definitely get back on track and i don't think med controlled BP needs to stop you from thinking about pregnancy.

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yes- after that reading, 7 hrs after labor, I was put on meds. **can you all see the little light flickering above my head?**
(I called our gp right after the birth on a Friday and wanted to come in on Monday- but was coerced into coming in that day):
It was so high, I was really scared. But I wonder if I left it alone, I would be okay.

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well, i would definitely ask to do a trial off the meds then. they can taper you off and monitor it for you. you might like to pick up a blood pressure monitor at the drug store. they're not too expensive and calibrate it to your dr's office one to make sure it's accurate and then you can monitor it from home. folks can also have "white coat" hypertension which is basically high bp from being nervous at the dr's office. i wouldn't just chuck the meds unless under a dr's advice, though, but i think it would be worth taking a look at what you get w/o meds.

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