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#1 of 40 Old 11-28-2007, 10:45 PM - Thread Starter
 
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So, I was talking with a local MW today about my UC plans... and the types of deliveries she wouldn't do, and why I would choose to do those UC instead of in a hospital w/ OB.... and she didn't blame me...

... because the hospital where I delivered my DS (vaginally and miraculously) has a near 80% c/s rate





Which would explain why, when I used to go to my OB's office (1st peg), every appointment would be a 2 hr wait because of an "emergency c/s"


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That's so scary. I don't know how the people who are part of a system like that can live with themselves for creating such a horrible birthing culture.

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The Excuse is that it's a level whatever hospital (you know, the highest one) with a NICU and all, so there are soooo many high risk moms there delivering...

Yeah, 80% of the people I know are just SO high risk... uh huh...

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The hospital where I work has an 83% c-section rate. Its a small rural hospital with no surgeon on staff. So we "borrow" a surgeon 3 days a week from another hospital. Everyone is induced between 38-39 weeks on those 3 days a week, in case a C-section is needed. Of course, MOST babies aren't ready by then, so a c-section is then needed. So, the only ones that go natural (we don't even offer epi's or stadol or anything, since we can't handle a baby needing a vent, we have no vents) are the ones who are actually ready to deliver or go into labor naturally between 38-39 weeks. Many people ask why I don't work in the OB department.... Hmmm.... I can't work in a place like that.
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Everyone is induced between 38-39 weeks on those 3 days a week, in case a C-section is needed.
That's awful.
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The top two "best" international hospitals here have 90% and 89% rates. Women are taught that childbirth "ruins" you down there and that C/S is safer. Planned C/S are encouraged by families due to wanting specific dates for astrological reasons. I was out chatting with my neighbors and three of them had babies with them and all had C/S and couldn't understand it.

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Astrological timing? Holy cow, what a lame excuse. I mean, if a baby was "made" to be a sagittarius and they "extract" him during scorpio, he's just going to be a messed up scorpio, right?!

Man, and I thought those Hathor the Cow Goddess comics were JOKING...

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Well, Buddhism has some really different ideas. The wrong day, and it's a bad thing supposedly. Dec.5th is the king's 80th birthday here, and I bet the C-section rate on that day will be almost 100% because it's such a lucky day.

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Oh, so THAT's the day... someone told me that I had the same bday as someone very important to buddhism or something about the day that buddha rose from the bodhi tree... guess they were a day off, I'm dec. 6th

But wow... c/s just to share a bday with someone...

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80%? That's awful. And I was appalled at our 52% rate. Not that that is great...it's still pretty bad, but unfortunately seems to be typical
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c/s just to share a bday with someone...
You get the reverse too... the days leading up to June 6 2006 saw a spike in c/s and inductions, and people often induce or schedule to avoid friday the 13ths or anniversaries of traumatic events like 9/11.

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OMG! How do you find out? I know the OB's are scalpel happy in my town by the # of ppl I meet who have c's
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http://ourbodiesourblog.org/blog/200...s_by_hospi.php

I answered my own question.

This is a GREAT resource.
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When I hear things like this I realize how darn lucky I am that I have had 5 hospital births (including twins) and never had a c-section or even had any Dr. try to convince me of one. PHEW!
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Oh my goodness.
Our city has a 90% induction rate but I don't think our c/s rate is above 60% (that sucks though even at that!!). I can't even fathom how people think they are safer giving birth in the hospital with those numbers - seriously.

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: Thats awful. I think our hospital has a section rate of less than 20%. I am a RN student and I wouldn't even work there let alone any other hospital in our brainwashed culture. I know there are times when it is necessary but give me a break. Elective c/s should be out of the question.

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You get the reverse too... the days leading up to June 6 2006 saw a spike in c/s and inductions, and people often induce or schedule to avoid friday the 13ths or anniversaries of traumatic events like 9/11.
I'm a Fri. The 13th baby Probably getting to be in rarer company with induction and c/s rates just climbing to the stratosphere. :

OH! I had to think about June 6, 2006 for a minute! : I think that would be cool, but I'm just a little weird. I can't help but laugh at the mental image of pregnant woman lining up for their pit so they can avoid having Rosemary's Baby.

But seriously, I've had two hospital births...the first one so bad that I "blacked out" the part where they kept asking me if I wanted a c/s. Dh says I said no, and it would put them off for an hour or so. I got L-U-C-K-Y, both times. With each passing year I realize that more and more.

When I stayed at home to birth all I got was U-C I know I know, lame, I'm feeling goofy today for some reason
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WOW. just wow. I thought the 50% rate at the hospital nearby was high!!! I can't believe some are as high as 90%.
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WOW. just wow. I thought the 50% rate at the hospital nearby was high!!! I can't believe some are as high as 90%.
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Homebirths here are basically zero. Each district of our city has about 3million people each. My UC friend reported their homebirth to get the birth certificate, and they were told that their district, her homebirth was the second on record in 5 years!!

Mothering also listed here as one of the lowest breastfeeding initiating countries in the world. It's so hard living here sometimes and so hard to make changes.

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Holy crap.

That's just...that's just unbelievable.
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80-90%? I don't live on earth anymore. Are we still human??

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I guess we're heading that way.... I mean come on, wouldn't it be easier if we were all just robots? Open it up, pull out the baby, bolt shut... it's an assembly line, much like these hospitals.

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I had no idea that c's were worth $15K! I thought it was like "$2000 vaginal, $5,000 c-section."

No wonder they do so many of them.
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For that price, they better throw some boobs in there.
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My vaginal deliver at our "non profit (hahaha)" hospital was $10k... the mom I know who had a c/s was around $14k, and that was BEFORE the fees for her tylenol, recovery stay, etc... that was JUST for the surgery.

I mean, it's logical, from an OB's point of view... "I can do this c/s, which doesn't take very long, get paid more, not have to check on laboring mom, and go home and go to bed... or I can deal with a laboring mom, show up whenever HER body dictates, wait hours for her to push the baby out and then stitch her up, and make 1/3 less money doing it"

Sad, that they think like that.

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My vbac was just over 2k (that included surgical repair of 4th degree tear). My c/s (total bill, including hosp. stay and post-op meds) was just shy of 30k. Now there was more than a day of unmedicated in-hosp labor prior to the c/s but still...the price tag was astounding and perhaps the moment I've been most thankful for insurance.

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The OB does not make money necessarily on a c/s vs vaginal. From a few years ago his fee was only a few hundred more. The hospital makes a killing.
Again these numbers are from the late 90s -- df has a natural, med free, birth, 1 overnight stay they have no insurance, their bill was $3000 for the hospital. I had insurance, I was in the l&d for a full day plus, then the OR, then PP room for 4 days and NICU care for the baby just b/c that is hospital protocol w c/s babies and the wet lung issue is of concern IME. My bill $20,000. -- no boobs, no tummy tuck, nada just a really bad c/s from an incompetent OB.

From my rough polling women I know, the local hospital is about a 50% c/s rate, higher if your a 1st time "unproven" mom, less if you have kids vaginally prior to entering their doors.

My HB mw was $1800 3 years ago. Talk about a difference, it was less than our max cap co-pay w that late 90s c/s.
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omg, did you just say "unproven"? : Do they say that???
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When will people wake up and stand up for themselves against this butchering?

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