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#61 of 305 Old 07-10-2008, 07:20 PM
 
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I am so, so sorry. Your story just breaks my heart. People wonder why I am so suspicious of hospitals.....
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If she really does have the infection they say she has, get tested for it so they cannot try to say she did not get it from their un-sterile hospital.

And midwives sterilize the process? That ped needs to go back to med school.

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Mama, I am absolutely speechless! I feel so awful for you, your dh, and especially your baby! So many things I could say, but I think everyone else has already said it quite nicely!

I'll be praying for you all, Mama! Please continue to keep us posted!
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You're in my thoughts. Thanks for the update and I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.
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Thank you for the updates. I have been thinking about you and especially your poor baby all day. I would not just file a complaint; I would go ahead and sue them bigtime, make it public via media the whole shebang. I mean the distress to not only you, your wife but especially your little baby. Uh...if there is staph then that can be hospital acquired.
UC is not something I would personally feel comfortable with but I respect and believe in a womans right to do that if that is what she wants to do and I applaud any woman who chooses it. There seems to be such a backlash against it.....and prejudice. It sounds to me too as if you are being "punished" for doing UC. I know it is out of the mainstream but come on people....what is their problem? Are they upset they (hospital/drs etc) didnt get paid for delivering or even better doing a c/s? I am just horrified about this......keep strong ok?
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I m sending all the well wishes and strength I have your way...I am so sorry and I hope your lawyer takes care of them.
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I called the procurator today. I explained the whole situation today and I swear I could hear her shaking her head over the phone. She was totally appalled. She told me to go to the medical director, and to get some answers from him. So I went to talk to him, and asked when my daughter would be released. He called the ped in. I had seen the ped around, but I didn't know he was a ped, much less the ped in charge of my baby. Today was the first time he presented himself to me. So he tells me that the baby isn't ok because she has pustulosis (pic), possibly caused by staphylococcus, on her rear end, and that she developed this on Tuesday. Which is interesting, because I changed her diaper yesterday, and didn't see anything unusual. The nurses also have changed her in front of me, and I didn't see anything then either, nor did they point it out to me. I mean, this is something I would have noticed right away, right?

So I ask him if this could have been treated outside by a ped. He said no, not in newborns, they had to be hospitalized. He said they had done cultures, and if they arrived negative tomorrow, then they would release her at 3pm. I told the procurator and she's pretty positive they will release her tomorrow, since I was able to get a definite straight answer out of them. She said after I got my daughter back, if I still wanted to file a complaint, to go ahead, because she strongly believes that I was wronged. You're damn right I'm gonna file a complaint!

So as an aside, I ask the ped why in other countries that do homebirths (Europe, England etc), they don't have that problem of "unsterile births". He says it's because they have midwives trained to make the birth process "sterile". If someone understand how that works, please let me know.

feminine_earth: homebirth is totally legal, however, we can't be taking money out of the hospital's coffers now can we? How else will the president go to his vacation in Tahiti this year?

Boy do I have a lot of documenting to do
Could be something she picked up the hospital .. if the cultures show it is MRSA then you know it is...

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Equ

I seriously have no words. All the best to you and yours, and all the good thoughts and luck I have to share going your way.

I hope that you get your little one back soon, and that some people suffer in the worst ways possible for what was done to you and your family.
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What a crock! For all that you are dealing with - but especially for the "diagnosis". My first DS had pustulosis at birth. When we saw the ped three days after my homebirth all he said was I don't like the looks of that. Here's some cream to put on it. I think they are just trying to find any reason whatsoever to hold her and you there.

I'm so sorry mama. You and your babe deserve so much better than this.
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I didn't realize you are in PR. I am in Guaynabo. Is there anything a federal agent can do for you? My husband works for the federal gov.
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totally check out AMA.....this bullcrap.

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I was telling my dh about your situation earlier and we recalled something that happened to us in a "sterile" hospital with the birth of our dd! Hope you don't mind me sharing, as I thought it might be somewhat encouraging or validating to hear in a weird way!

We acquired SCABIES from a nurse, who held my leg, at the hospital when I gave birth to my first! Let me tell you, it was a nightmare to get rid of for my baby girl her first year and she suffered a good deal from it. When I finally convinced this wonderful doctor we had scabies, my dh and I were "cured" from it with the treatment we were given, but our dd suffered from it for a year! (All the previous denied it when I suggested it might be scabies. One even said it was from fleas!!!! Fleas??? Don't you think we would have noticed being bitten THAT MANY TIMES??? Our dog didn't even have fleas and surely we would have noticed an infestation like that! Most others suggested we were allergic to something! All of a sudden we are ALL allergic to something?) She suffered from it for a year, because all the doctors said that there's no way she has it, because my dh and I would have gotten it again and we didn't. In the meantime, we were told she had eczema and was treated for that. Treatments didn't work and I knew they wouldn't. When I was absolutely fed up, I begged and demanded a dermatologist to just do the simple test for scabies again, she reluctantly did it, and guess what? What do you know? She had SCABIES! Round two of this awful drug for all of us! It was cured after that and has never returned! Eczema? What is that? *Sigh*

All this trouble from the "sterile" hospital! : I know I received it from the hospital, because of the timing of when we started itching, to when the little varmits showed up on our skin, and the order this happened with each of us. Plus, I recall seeing a few questionable bumps on this nurse holding my leg and thinking, "What is that?" So I know where it came from, but they'd never admit it.

We later found out dh's doc on his boat (submarine) would have given him the bottles of treatment for us if my dh would have said something! That would have been nice to know months before! Ah well!

So I, too, seriously doubt anything was "wrong" with your LO, until you went to the hospital! I feel so awful that she is having to deal with all this and you all are being put through this mess! You are all in my prayers, especially tomorrow, Mama! Please keep us posted!
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I couldn't read and not post to say that you and your family will be in my thoughts until you are home safe and sound. What happened to all of you is nothing less than a travesty and I truly hope that you take things a LOT further than just filing a complaint against this hospital. I will be willing a kick butt lawyer in your direction!

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Interesting turn of events.

I went to the hospital just now to drop off milk for my baby. The nurse was holding her because she had just eaten. She wasn't hooked up to the IV or anything. I asked the nurse how much milk was left and if it would be enough until 3pm tomorrow for when I would pick her up, since the doc said if the culture was negative, she could leave then. She said that the release papers were already done and I could pick her up after 11am. Interesting. I asked if the cultures had come back, and she said, I guess so, because her release papers are in her record ready to go.

Amazing how a simple chat with the medical director can get things moving along. Can't wait to see those medical records.



Luvmykiddos03: Eeewww scabies! Sterile my ass!

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Mama, i hope you get your little one real soon and you can enjoy your babymoon and think back on her birth, before all this craziness started

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She said that the release papers were already done and I could pick her up after 11am. Interesting. I asked if the cultures had come back, and she said, I guess so, because her release papers are in her record ready to go.

So, if her release paperwork is ready to go, why can't she leave tonight?

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So, if her release paperwork is ready to go, why can't she leave tonight?
They don't release babies at night for security reasons, since they escort the baby to your car.

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I know I am posting late in the game, but they can't take or hold your baby without a court order. This is what I hate about PR, BLAH!!! I've never been so ashamed to say that I'm Puerto Rican!!! I'm so sorry momma! SUE, SUE, SUE the pants off the hospital and the police office. Let me know if you need any help. My husband went to law school and is a federal agent.
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Btw, if she got staph it was probably from the hospital...
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They don't release babies at night for security reasons, since they escort the baby to your car.
Technically they can't hold your baby. You should go get her tonight.
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I am so sorry for this tragic turn of circumstances.

But I am glad that you are getting your baby back sooner than expected!

Congratulations on your baby's birth.

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Well, in spite of the rough time you've had / are having, I don't think I ever saw your baby's name and birth stats so we could properly congratulate you!!

What is your DD's name? Was she a nice weight/length? Sound like she'll be coming home soon, so let's hear the happy stuff about your new darling!!

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So sorry that your neighbour caused all this s**t for you. Wow....I think STERILE births must be a new thing....I mean my grandmother (who had children in the 30's and 40's) had all 11 of her children in her farm house....(and she wasn't a great housekeeper) and I had a home birth (not sterile).

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so sorry for what you have been through! I totally understand how it's easy for other people on here to just say "go get her right now" but in my heart until I heard for sure what the law was i would be terrified they would try to take my child and put it in protective services or something. I truly don't think they can by law, but social workers who "mean well" have a habit or doing awful things at times... so I completely understand your caution.

that said I am SO happy for you that she is coming home today!!! I hope you are able to reach the right people to get this whole thing taken seriously and that the hospital owes you an apology.

by the way, hospital births are NOT "sterile births". who on earth quoted that to you? the only rooms that would be considered somewhat sterile are ORs and even they are not perfectly sterile b/c people come in bearing germs. do you know how many times i've seen surgeon's and OR nurses at the hospital where I work wearing their scrubs out for a smoke break or down to the cafeteria? yeah... and don't think they change those "sterile scrubs" and hairnets! don't for a second let anyone let you believe that the hospital is sterile or that it would hold up in court that a hospital is sterile. the only people who say this is to make a point. this isn't my weirdo wacky opinion - it's a simple fact.

but in time I pray you can put all of this behind you and remember the wonder of her birth and life. what a blessing a new baby is! please tell us more about her and her name or stats. new life should be celebrated! :

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The hospital owes you a heck of a lot more than an apology. I am from this area and I do know the laws here. I know you will be glad to get your baby back in your arms, but I urge you to take legal action. Puerto Rico is a place of disorder thanks to a "system" that is slow to act and lazy to change. This place needs a swift kick in the #*$, but I guess they'd first have to get a leader that isn't corrupt. The main problem here is that no one is ever held accountable for their behaviors. My husband spends his days trying to get people who have committed SERIOUS crimes to be held accountable. You would be appalled to hear what people can get away with here in PR thanks to the "system". Crimes that the would be put away for life for committing elsewhere.

I feel so badly for you and what they have put you through. Please let me know if you need anything.
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I've been following this thread, but really haven't had much to say other than

I'm so glad you were finally able to get somewhere with this. I'm so impressed with how you handled this nightmare. I sure hope you sue the pants off of them, but it takes a lot of energy to do that sort of thing. Definately file a complaint at least.

Now, get that baby home and enjoy things the way you were meant to!
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Mama, i hope you get your little one real soon and you can enjoy your babymoon and think back on her birth, before all this craziness started
Yeah, that, and then sue that hospital for all it's worth!

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I hope that you are able to pick her up and babymoon in peace. T

Then, SUE the pants off of that hospital. SUE for everything they are worth.


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i'm glad that your baby is home safe and sound!
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I am so happy to hear your baby is coming home today, and I hope you have a very peaceful, wonderful weekend together. Congratulations on your new baby.

Be careful to look at what you sign when you leave just in case there's some weirdness in there about you not being able to sue.
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