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Last weekend we were out in the woods and it was the most peaceful, relaxing few hours I've spent in a long time. The quiet and lack of electricity running around was heavenly. My dream has always been to birth in a forest, but I knew I would never do it. After this weekend, I'm seriously starting to consider it. We would be about 20 minutes from a hospital, so no worries if I have to have an emergency transfer. What do you think? Has anyone ever done this before? What would I need to take into consideration out in the woods that would be different than at home?
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I would be concerned about two things: weather and insects. I'm from New England, and the mosquitos can be fierce here, and then of course, there's ticks. I don't know how you feel about bug repellent, but depending on when you're due, it might be worth some thought.

Weather - when are you due? Would you feel as positive about birthing in the woods on a day with imperfect weather?

Okay - extra concerns: is your due date during hunting season? Who owns the woods in question - are they public, private, limited access? In the event that you needed to transfer, where would your car be parked in relation to where you were laboring?

I walked a *lot* during my last trimester, and see no reason why that walking couldn't have been done in the woods, even during labor, but I would hesitate to plan to birth anyplace where I might be interrupted by deer hunters, park rangers, state cops, or Appalachian Trail through-hikers who might interfere with the process.
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I would also be concerned about access to running water, refrigeration (for food), a soft bed, places to sit, and also, a toilet. In addition to the things the PP mentioned.

I can definitely see going for a walk in the woods in labor, though.
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YES! I have

probably gonna sound like a freak here, but I planned my UC at a rainbow gathering in Brazil.
We had a tipi set up in the forest, and I've attended a few births that were camping. one on a beach.
We didn't have running water or electricity. we had a campfire for cooking. and it was great

my personal experience was deciding to transfer after 60 hours of labour (baby stuck in OP), but I don't think that was anything to do with our location. Actually, we didn't make it to the hospital, DD was born with me squatting on the back of the car, in the rain, in the mud, on the edge of the village soccer field.
she was fine and healthy so we drove back up to the moutain

If you're comfortable with it, then go for it.
you can easily prepare to have everything you think you will want or need for the birth. bring a camp mattress, folding chairs, a hammok bring a camp stove and an ice box full of food. heck, hire a campervan (RV) for the day if you feel like it - then you have the full equipment of a home, and access to the woods all in one go.

but that's just me :


ETA: toilet. oh, well, we dug a hole. but where we were, that was acceptable. it was private land and we had permission to birth there.

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I didn't actually birth outside, but my in-laws live out in the woods on 120 acres. I labored and birthed at their house and spent a fair amount of time outside. It was especially nice during transition because it was so peaceful and dark outside. I took a blanket outside during transition and labored there. I would definitely recommend it, though I liked having a house with electricity nearby because I'm spoiled.
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Nope though I did/do consider it.

Here's an awesome birth story....not in the woods but still outside. This is the one that planted the seed (it is a midwife attended birth). The pictures rock!

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Just a month ago someone has had a UC in the forest, story with pictures and all:

http://tim-and-sarah.blog.de/2008/07...bilder-4430490

http://www.unassistedchildbirth.com/...0&hilit=forest
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No, but I WISH I could have. i think it would be awesome to welcome a baby into that environment!

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i would do it. i would make sure it's a park area that isn't heavily trafficed by others, as they get jumpy and want to call 911 and stuff--but otherwise, i would totally do it.

my husband has me running around on the 'buddy system' now because he says who knows, i may not realize it's labor, and give birth someplace completely whacky, and then others would get involved with 911 and all of that. LOL

that's the last thing we want. so, i'm on the 'buddy system.' i walked in the park this morning (it's gorgeous here today!), with a buddy, just in case.

i could definitely birth out there.
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I searched and found one photo of me in labour - I'm hanging onto dp during a ctx, and you can see our tipi in the background. http://flickr.com/photos/majikfaerie...7601043548390/
man, i always regret not having more birth pics

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With my first birth I took some beautiful walks in the woods alone while dh was out getting the birthing tub. It was amazing. I felt a bit tethered by the phone though since my midwife and doula expected me to stay in touch. When they arrived I felt trapped--the energy changed. But I will always remember my beautiful walks.
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I rolled around in the grass with my toddler in the backyard. ...

But I would definitely go outside to give birth. A tent would be fine as long as you could keep the bugs out. And a nest of blankets and pillows would probably be way more comfortable than the hotel bed I dozed on the first night.

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I haven't, but I definitely would. When we eventually buy our own land and house, this is my plan (unless we're up north in the middle of winter). For now, though, we rent a house with a decent yard, but neighbors who would without a doubt interfere and/or call the cops. So I'll be birthing this one indoors.

It is my dream to give birth in the forest, though.

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I'd love to. I've fantasized about it. :
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i think that is the most awesome idea ever. but i would only do it if the woods in question were on my property, else you have to deal with the practical concerns--hikers, hunters, rangers, etc, and i wouldn't want to have to think about that.

if we have a house by the time we're ready to have a baby and the season allows it i would definitely give birth outside though. i think that would be awesome.

oh, on a beach would be freaking awesome too. i wish.
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Well Mama I don't see any reason why you shouldn't. I have uc'ed twice, first a tent, a 2 person old thing, so I was outside with a small cover, not in woods but a remote location on shore, 2nd time in back of a van we lived in in a remote location. We were living on the road not on a site, moving about so very limited comforts, weather was good for the day but rained heavily the next so we were forced to move again which was stressful, I did all the driving all the time duh! As I say my situation wasn't ideal but birthing was fine, some hot water for washing isn't hard to arrange and a weather check, the hiker/other folk coming along could be a problem, some 'home' comforts, distance to hozzy( you got covered) need to be considered. If you are the sorta woman who feels grounded and very connected when close to nature this is a great environment to birth and I can tell you I had a lot of problems when I did this that were not connected to my choice of venue for birthing or the births themselves and it was most good. Majikfaerie! sounding great with your outdoor fire and all.
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I wanted to when I was pregnant with dd. I did not have a good safe set of woods available to me

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I searched and found one photo of me in labour - I'm hanging onto dp during a ctx, and you can see our tipi in the background. http://flickr.com/photos/majikfaerie...7601043548390/
man, i always regret not having more birth pics
I wish I could see this photo, but it says it's private.

And I hear you about the birth photos... my dd2 was a very fast whirlwind birth, and I did not get even one photo. Had planned on video, photos, etc. It was really devastating to me, I'm sad even 2 years later!

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I wish!

I live where there used to be tropical rain forests, and the gardens here certainly look like it. When I was in labor with DS, I went out in the dark about 1am and it was lightly raining and walked through the tropical gardens. It was amazing to be out in nature and breathing in the fresh air. Hit transition shortly after. It was the middle of rainy season and our area was completely flooded so good thing that was a planned homebirth... we'd have needed a canoe to get to the hospital.

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Am I the only one who thinks this isn't a good idea?

Mosquitoes, no running or hot water to clean up, no toilet, needing an additional plan just for weather changes and with and my own comfy bed not being close by.....

No thanks.
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I wish I could see this photo, but it says it's private.

And I hear you about the birth photos... my dd2 was a very fast whirlwind birth, and I did not get even one photo. Had planned on video, photos, etc. It was really devastating to me, I'm sad even 2 years later!
oh! thanks for letting me know. I remember now I set it to private - I set all my pics with nudity to private a whiles back coz soooo many sicko pervs were checking them out. yes, there are weirdos out there who get off on birthing women
anyways, i've made it public, so you all can see it. though i'll change it back in a few days.
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Am I the only one who thinks this isn't a good idea?

Mosquitoes, no running or hot water to clean up, no toilet, needing an additional plan just for weather changes and with and my own comfy bed not being close by.....

No thanks.
sounds like that would be a very bad idea for you then. but for many, it's fine not to have running water or flushing toilet.
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sounds like that would be a very bad idea for you then. but for many, it's fine not to have running water or flushing toilet.
Every woman should give birth in the place she feels safest.
Do you clean yourself and the baby up with cold water from buckets afterwards?
And then what, do you pack up the mess in garbage bags, stick the baby in a bucket and drive back to your home afterwards?
How would your explain that you weren't trying to conceal/bury/abandon the baby in the event of an emergency? You do have to consider how fishy it would look trying to explain that you're just a hippie who wants to birth on a blanket in the dirt under a bush.
Wouldn't the smell of blood, especially at dusk or dawn attract the wrong kind of company? I dont know where you live, but theres a whole lot of black bears around the bush here.

I'm not trying to be judgemental, Im just just not understanding how it would work out comfortably or not be a total PITA... one of the reasons why I uc is because its very convenient and comfortable to stay in my home, or "den" that Ive been "nesting" in for months. Deliberately relocating in labor would feel just as invasive as packing up the bag to go to the hospital and having leaves stuck to my knees and butt..... and again, the mosquitoes? How did you deal with those?
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It has always been my dream to birth in a cabin in the woods. Alone.

It was so important to me that I told my date about it on our 2nd date. He thought it was cool.

I found out a year after our son arrived, after a ridiculous midwife-attended (b/c he begged to have midwives there) labor that turned into a coerced transfer and a dreadfully coerced and unnecessary surgery, and then being kicked out of the hospital at 42 hours post-op, that he *never believed me*. Thought I was joking.

He now deeply regrets not listening to all the things I told him that he blew off when we were first dating, b/c everything I told him was true, some of what he told me were exaggerations or things he thought I wanted to hear, and they have all caused severe distress to our relationship.


But it still remains my gold standard. He knows that for a future baby, his job is to find a safe place for me, maybe him too, to go to.

We don't really have bad mosquitos here, and they don't bother me either. The cabin is to keep away critters, LOL, since the end of my wish is "with wolves howling in the far distance", though I really do NOT know how I would get that to work out. Maybe a CD?



We just went camping, and being in that tent felt, well, womblike. Helps that the rain fly is red. With the big air mattress, with extra pillows and some comforters on the floor of the tent it would seriously rival being at home.

We were forced to clean DS on his 2nd day by the nurses calling him a biohazard, but it was not my intention, so cleaning of the baby isn't something that I would worry about.

For myself, I imagine wipes or the homemade dipe solution I made for DS would probably suffice for a bit.


I can see, breathe, and think better when in a forested area...I can only imagine I would birth better too.
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[QUOTE=andrea;11927684]Do you clean yourself and the baby up with cold water from buckets afterwards?
personally, we had hot water going on the campfire. there wasn't all that much cleaning up necessary, and we didn't do much for a while
And then what, do you pack up the mess in garbage bags, stick the baby in a bucket and drive back to your home afterwards?in my case, we were camping there, so we didn't need to do that. we just stayed where we were. I guess if that's what someone wanted to do, they could. why not?
How would your explain that you weren't trying to conceal/bury/abandon the baby in the event of an emergency? You do have to consider how fishy it would look trying to explain that you're just a hippie who wants to birth on a blanket in the dirt under a bush.well, that would depend a lot on where you are. where i was there was no chance at all of anyone stumbling upon us, so it wasn't an issue
Wouldn't the smell of blood, especially at dusk or dawn attract the wrong kind of company? I dont know where you live, but theres a whole lot of black bears around the bush here.well, like i said. a woman needs to feel safe. wildlife like wolves or black bears probably wouldn't feel safe to a lot of people. I was in brazil when I birthed, so it wasn't an issue

I'm not trying to be judgemental, Im just just not understanding how it would work out comfortably or not be a total PITA... one of the reasons why I uc is because its very convenient and comfortable to stay in my home, or "den" that Ive been "nesting" in for months. Deliberately relocating in labor would feel just as invasive as packing up the bag to go to the hospital and having leaves stuck to my knees and butt..... and again, the mosquitoes? How did you deal with those?
like I said, I personally was camping there, basically livng in a tipi in the woods. I didn't re-locate during labour, and I wouldn't want to do such a thing.
As for mosquitoes, i wasn't really bothered by them. citronella oil candles/ incense, spray is a great natural deterrent. we were also burning sage.

Still, birthing in the woods is definitely not for everyone. just like hospital or home birthing isn't for everyone. if you're not the kind of person to feel really comfortable, safe and secure in the woods, then it's really not an ideal birthing place.
there are quite a few women who dream of birthing in nature, and several have posted here. all I'm saying is; if you really feel it, it's possible.

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Do you clean yourself and the baby up with cold water from buckets afterwards? I'm not a bleeder during labour and VERY minimal during birth (only after the baby is born) so the only "cleaning" needed is vernix. I can rub that in with anything...my hand, a towel, my sock if I so desired.
And then what, do you pack up the mess in garbage bags, stick the baby in a bucket and drive back to your home afterwards? Not all births are messy. And not all people onsider the "messy" parts things that need to be thrown away. You can have a lotus birth, that takes care of the placenta. Just like with a uc at home you might have towels, you might not. Either way they are going to be set aside (most likely) until they can be washed (or thrown away...I know plenty of people who wouldn't reuse them). Depending on where you are outside you might not end up using towels or blankets or drop cloths or shower curtains etc. Keep in mind, most people use those to protect flooring. Not because they are some super vital part to birthing safely.
How would your explain that you weren't trying to conceal/bury/abandon the baby in the event of an emergency? You do have to consider how fishy it would look trying to explain that you're just a hippie who wants to birth on a blanket in the dirt under a bush. First, your hippie comment is VERY derogatory. Birthing outside isn't for you obviously. That's fine. No one here is saying you are spoiled by only birthing at home near what comforts you. I understand the point you are trying to make but we are all here (on the UC forum) because we believe in UC. The other details are jsut what make us all different. If it isn't for you, fine. Keep the comments to yourself. Secondly, like many have said, if they are going to birth outside they need to make sure the area is safe from random people where that might become an issue. I have yet to read a post where someone is just going to squat down in front of the entrance to a state park and start pushing. Everyone seems to have security in mind. On the off chance it didn't happen I don't think it would be horribly hard to explain what was going on...they were in labour and trying to get to where they were going but didn't make it. Happens all the time. To all people...hippie or not.
Wouldn't the smell of blood, especially at dusk or dawn attract the wrong kind of company? I dont know where you live, but theres a whole lot of black bears around the bush here. Depends on where you are. I think you are getting hung up on the finer details and not seeing the bigger picture. There are things you can (and I assume would) do to limit that sort of thing. Bugs are very easily fixed. Leaves and other natural growth are as well. Animals may or may not be a concern for you. That one would be more difficult but I doubt any one here is going to hike up the side of a mountain in labour where there are known black bears and mountain lions. Just because some of us would like to birth outdoors doesn't mean we are stupid and incapable of making smart decisions. None of us are about to put ourselves in danger for the sake of birthing outside. Part of UC is creating a safe birthing place. That CAN happen outdoors. I have a feeling if it were so very dangerous there would be a lot less people on the planet.

I'm not trying to be judgemental, Im just just not understanding how it would work out comfortably or not be a total PITA... one of the reasons why I uc is because its very convenient and comfortable to stay in my home, or "den" that Ive been "nesting" in for months. Deliberately relocating in labor would feel just as invasive as packing up the bag to go to the hospital and having leaves stuck to my knees and butt..... and again, the mosquitoes? How did you deal with those? Not everyone UC's out of conveinence. Heck, I moved 500ish miles in my last month in order to have my UC where DH felt more comfortable. Nothing conveinent about that. Like I said earlier I think you are just getting stuck on the minute personal details. You have a preferred way of birthing and seem to have a hard time visualizing anything outside of that because it works. That seems to be a downfall of being a member of a message board. Be active long enough and you start to assume everyone is similar to you (I know for me it always amazes me to find out someone is not my age or at my stage of life). I know you're not trying to be judgemental but it just seems like you're nitpicking. :

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OP yes, well not exactly the forest but I wanted so badly to give birth at the river on the sand-- I would walk in that area almost every day and I had such a feeling of connection - but when it came down to it my DH objected and he had a few points at least for my situation - one being that the location which was simple enough for me to get to when pregnant would probably pose a few problems in the immidate postpartum as far as walking back out with baby in arms, and if I were really worn out or had any complication it would be nearly impossible for him to get me up out of there timely or easily-- but if it were someplace I could easily have driven to I don't think there would be any insurmountable issues--

I think have the birth you want where you want...
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[QUOTE=OtherMother'n'Madre;11932850]I'm not a bleeder during labour and VERY minimal during birth (only after the baby is born) so the only "cleaning" needed is vernix. I can rub that in with anything...my hand, a towel, my sock if I so desired.
Yeak ok, but most people are and dealing with the mess in the woods with no running water is a legit concern, dont you think?

Not all births are messy. And not all people onsider the "messy" parts things that need to be thrown away. You can have a lotus birth, that takes care of the placenta. Just like with a uc at home you might have towels, you might not. Either way they are going to be set aside (most likely) until they can be washed (or thrown away...I know plenty of people who wouldn't reuse them). Depending on where you are outside you might not end up using towels or blankets or drop cloths or shower curtains etc. Keep in mind, most people use those to protect flooring. Not because they are some super vital part to birthing safely.

I didnt say anything about throwing stuff away, Im talking about packing up the blood, amniotic-and-sweat-soaked blankets in a way that they are not staining everything on the way home. I dont understand how a towel(or similar) wouldnt be vital to the birth, wth are you supposed to use to wipe up the fluids than?

First, your hippie comment is VERY derogatory. Birthing outside isn't for you obviously. That's fine. No one here is saying you are spoiled by only birthing at home near what comforts you. I understand the point you are trying to make but we are all here (on the UC forum) because we believe in UC. The other details are jsut what make us all different. If it isn't for you, fine. Keep the comments to yourself. Secondly, like many have said, if they are going to birth outside they need to make sure the area is safe from random people where that might become an issue. I have yet to read a post where someone is just going to squat down in front of the entrance to a state park and start pushing. Everyone seems to have security in mind. On the off chance it didn't happen I don't think it would be horribly hard to explain what was going on...they were in labour and trying to get to where they were going but didn't make it. Happens all the time. To all people...hippie or not.

How is using the term hippie on MDC derogatory where a good portion of the members pride themselves on being one? I didnt say anyone had acused me of being spoiled and keeping my comments to myself? Then Wtf is a message board here for then? I cant ask questions in the uc forum because they might offend someone? Seroiusly?

I was refering to if there was an emergency, if the baby died or whatever (yes it does happen) How would you explain birthing in the woods without it looking really really badly. Im guessing there would be a lengthy and stressful investigation after trying to explain that. Someone would need to put that into consideration alongside the romantic ideals.

Depends on where you are. I think you are getting hung up on the finer details and not seeing the bigger picture. There are things you can (and I assume would) do to limit that sort of thing. Bugs are very easily fixed. Leaves and other natural growth are as well. Animals may or may not be a concern for you. That one would be more difficult but I doubt any one here is going to hike up the side of a mountain in labour where there are known black bears and mountain lions. Just because some of us would like to birth outdoors doesn't mean we are stupid and incapable of making smart decisions. None of us are about to put ourselves in danger for the sake of birthing outside. Part of UC is creating a safe birthing place. That CAN happen outdoors. I have a feeling if it were so very dangerous there would be a lot less people on the planet.

I think that asking about the finer details is legitimate. Honestly, those are the things that are going to make or break your birth experience. Big picture doesnt mean a lot when you have hundreds of mosquitos buzzing around your ears and you are laboring too hard to clear the debris out of you tent, and gosh darn, its starting to storm and you didnt think of that either.
Im not saying at all that uc outside isnt safe, you assumed that. But trust me, you dont need to hike up the side of a mountain to find a black bear in canada. Ive seen dozens in my lifetime and none of them were anywheres near a mountain.

You have a preferred way of birthing and seem to have a hard time visualizing anything outside of that because it works. That seems to be a downfall of being a member of a message board. Be active long enough and you start to assume everyone is similar to you (I know for me it always amazes me to find out someone is not my age or at my stage of life). I know you're not trying to be judgemental but it just seems like you're nitpicking. :

Not quite. I was asking questions because I really couldnt understand. Not a hard thing to imagine someone doing on a discussion forum. I never assumed everone was like me at all, thats YOUR assumption. It may seems like Im nitpikcing, but it seems like you are being ultra-defensive and looking to pick a fight.
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heating water is not a big deal- camp stove, pan and water-- actually where I was and also here in AZ cool water would be the trick hot water is easy to come by. and I must say that at my home births there was very little clean up- chux pads will go anywhere- or towels or old blankets... what have you. both my parents had no indoor plumbing until they were adults- and after they had me we lived without running water or electrictiy (they weren't hippies) though-out my childhood we often live for months or years at a time basically camping... you have a pail with a lid or use one of those white buckets lined with a trash bag and it can even have a toilet seat on it if you don't have an out-house if you don't have a stove then you have a fire- and the equipment to cook and heat water as well as an Ice box-- bedding easy to carry-- bathing depends on how you want to go you can buy a classic round tin wash tub or just use wash cloths and a jar to pour water on yourself-- there are also all sorts of contraptions you could buy to have a portable shower...
another place to see some out door births are the dead sea water birth pics-- I'll try to find a link.

as far as authorities go, you just tell the truth- look they may think you are crazy staying at home, atleast in the woods many forest service workers are there because they like the woods too and would understand that part
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