Where to start? Help 101 - Mothering Forums

Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
#1 of 28 Old 06-10-2009, 11:43 AM - Thread Starter
 
WuWei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In the moment
Posts: 11,492
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Basically, the gut is 70-80% of the immune system. It all starts with nutrient-dense foods, effective digestion (with adequate stomach acid), absorption of nutrients (in the gut with balanced microbials), and detoxification of the chemical byproducts of foods and environmental toxins by the liver, with adequate bio-available nutrients to support the detox pathways.

I would do whole food probiotics, cod liver oil, magnesium, vit. C, zinc, coconut oil, bone broths, green juices. Support the immune system.

Basically, you have to heal the gut to strengthen the immune system. Check out the "Healing the Gut-cheat sheet".
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=434071

Take a look at this thread discussing food *intolerances* avoidance vs not (re: detoxification discussion, ie detox pathways):
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=1044707&highlight=avoidanc\
e+detox


Start here to learn about detox pathways:
http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/t...bstacle-course

And here are a few informal videos about detox pathways:
http://heal-thyself.ning.com/video/video

and here about evaluating digestion and stomach acid (beet "pink pee" test): http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/the-beet-test

This thread about Healing the Gut with Food:
http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/t...-gut-with-food

Nutrient Dense Foods: http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/t...nt-dense-foods

Foods to Help Phase I and Phase II Detoxification:
http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/topics/nutrient-dense-foods?page=2&commentId=\
2814160%3AComment%3A655&x=1#2814160Comment655


Then here, the threads linked at the top will help you to understand more about identifying your family's detox pathways:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions....php?t=1045391

check out www.eatingcultures.com to try and guess on some of your detox pathways, and figure out which nutrients will be important for you. And www.detoxpuzzle.com to identify some of your detox pathways, nutrient deficiencies/needs.

Much of the immune system support is rooted in hormonal imbalances due to inadequate sleep, due to obstructed neurophysiological chemical processes due to nutrient deficiencies.

This is a terrific diagram of chemical "Pathways to Happiness and Sleep" (Serotonin and Melatonin). http://www.understand-andcure-anxiet...Melatonin.html

Healing the gut while pregnant or nursing has MANY cautions. Actively detoxing then is not recommended.
Here is a thread about detox and nursing:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=1046932&highlight=lemon&pa\
ge=2


And this one "Detox gone wrong":
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=1050596&highlight=detox+nu\
rsing


Consider reading "Do this, do that and you'll feel better" thread. Might cross check her ND's recs with yours.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...8#post13266818

A lot of issues lead back to mercury exposure from dental fillings in the mother. Which lead to gut imbalances and candida. Candida binds with mercury to "store" it safely.

Caution killing-off candida "yeast", if one *has, or had* mercury fillings in their teeth. Killing candida releases mercury into blood circulation to be redeposited in organs, brain and breastmilk. Taking Vit C, selenium, clay, (zeolite?) could help to bind the mercury for excretion.

Additionally, there is a "bucket effect". As the allergen exposure overflows the body's ability to detoxify the chemicals (histamine, pollens, food proteins, heavy metals, food chemical byproducts (salicylates, amines, oxylates, halides), non-food chemicals such as MSG, artificial colors, artificial preservatives, etc. imbalances in the gut develop. Foods which are mostly acid-forming, rather than alkaline-forming, cause ph disruptions in the blood, and the ph in the mouth and cells becomes too acidic. There are many natural and simple alternatives to improve gut health (and dental health). Nutrient dense foods are most effective, imo.

Here's an old post of mine about addressing environmental allergens.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=13719101&highlight=hidden#\
post13719101

Here is a link with more information about eliminating airborne allergens:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=12748820&highlight=provent\
il#post12748820


Unfortunately, the cascade of gut imbalances is associated with "C-section Syndrome": (ie. antibiotics at birth)
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=941070&highlight=detox+nur\
sing


Btw, on our site "Heal Thyself", if anyone wishes to post a thread about your gut healing, detox issues, food intolerance, candida, allergies, etc. There are many mamas who are very informed about all of this. http://heal-thyself.ning.com/

I'm working on creating an ebook to summarize all of our research and observations and experience. But, you can learn along with us!

A heated debate is the role of iodine in our diet related to hormonal balance and the deficiencies associated with nutrients. http://www.mothering.com/discussions....php?t=1091794

This is my "Cliffs Notes" version for healthy guts.
http://heal-thyself.ning.com/forum/t...160Comment3688




And please, start a separate thread "About Me", and the mamas are happy to help you trouble shoot and explore Healing Thyself.





Pat

I have a blog.
WuWei is offline  
#2 of 28 Old 06-10-2009, 12:21 PM
 
springmum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,238
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Pat you're awesome!!:
springmum is offline  
#3 of 28 Old 06-10-2009, 12:26 PM
 
kjbrown92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: CT
Posts: 10,761
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
That's awesome. I'd also recommend a link to www.dogtorj.net because he has some fascinating information about allergies/intolerances and the declining health cascade.

And don't forget the recipes sticky at the top of the page.

Kathy, mother of 3, wife of 1. My new recipe blog: www.kathysrecipebox.wordpress.com (no longer searchable by allergen, but at least it doesn't have a virus!)
kjbrown92 is offline  
#4 of 28 Old 06-10-2009, 12:37 PM
 
Heba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: UAE
Posts: 611
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thank you so much for this! There is so much to wade through that right now I'm drowning (hence my "detox for dummies" request thread). This is so important for us, but I have found it so difficult to know which info to start with. I really appreciate your taking the time to put together this post.
Heba is offline  
#5 of 28 Old 06-10-2009, 01:01 PM
 
BeantownBaby9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Metrowest Boston
Posts: 470
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Pat, I bow down to your awesomeness!


Erin photosmile2.gif  treehugger.gif, DH jammin.gif ,  Mumma to Chase 7/08 superhero.gif and babyf.gif Griff 3/13

MTHFR C677T Homozygous, M/C 2/07 @ 6wks, 12/10 @8wks, 10/11@7wks, 2/12 @4wks.... 

BeantownBaby9 is offline  
#6 of 28 Old 06-11-2009, 12:29 PM
 
Wugmama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,437
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Can someone make this a sticky?

Rockin' mama to Allison (9), Asher (5) and Alethea (3), head over heels in love with my sexy husband, Tony.

Wugmama is offline  
#7 of 28 Old 06-21-2009, 03:27 PM
 
Taryn237's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,355
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wugmama View Post
Can someone make this a sticky?
Yes please someone sticky this.

Taryn-31 Crunchy Conservative Catholic SAHM with DH-32
DS 7.5, DD 5 (vbac), DD 2.5 (vbac), and DD 12/30/13 (vbac)

Taryn237 is offline  
#8 of 28 Old 06-21-2009, 06:30 PM
 
capsgirl08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 285
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Taking notes & trying to keep up! Thanks for all the information, Pat.
capsgirl08 is offline  
#9 of 28 Old 06-21-2009, 06:49 PM
 
linguistmama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Happy Valley
Posts: 1,125
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thank you!

:::
linguistmama is offline  
#10 of 28 Old 06-22-2009, 02:18 AM
 
earthmama4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 608
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Bless your heart...this is exactly what I need right now. I was feeling overwhelmed and couldn't remember what I had read where, etc. Now I can really delve in and try to find some answers as to why LO is having probs again.

Only problem is it looks like my house is not going to get clean tomorrow either I've been reading Nourishing Traditions and the MDC boards all day today. Its a smorgasbord of info and I am hungry! :

Mom to DS(17) autismribbon.gif DS(15) autismribbon.gif DS(12) autismribbon.gif My gifted, quirky, wonderful teens!

Mama to Jack bouncy.gif11.08 and Liam  biggrinbounce.gif 9.11 and due with boy #6! stork-boy.gif  

Blissfully married to the love of my life since 8.8.8 partners.gif 

earthmama4 is offline  
#11 of 28 Old 06-30-2009, 09:37 PM
 
dollyanna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 676
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
WuWei you are so totally my hero right now.

This is so helpful! Thank you!

Now I have a lot of reading to do
dollyanna is offline  
#12 of 28 Old 06-30-2009, 10:33 PM
 
chlobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,741
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Pat, you are awesome!!!!!

Mom to DMI & Silly Apple
chlobo is offline  
#13 of 28 Old 07-01-2009, 06:41 PM
 
mommydancer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 599
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
:

Momma to one small person I call Smoodgie :joy.gif
mommydancer is offline  
#14 of 28 Old 07-02-2009, 09:10 AM
 
kateaton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 633
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
THANK YOU so much for this. I just joined and although I have some knowledge of this stuff from dealing with candida in the past, I have so much to learn. This is absolutely what I need right now. :

Married to DH, Mama to dd1 4/06, dd2 8/07, dd3 11/12 and #4 stork-boy.gif due 9/2014!
kateaton is online now  
#15 of 28 Old 07-02-2009, 12:13 PM
 
MoonWillow's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pemberly
Posts: 3,938
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wugmama View Post
Can someone make this a sticky?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taryn237 View Post
Yes please someone sticky this.
It appears to already be "stuck" in the resources sticky here.
MoonWillow is offline  
#16 of 28 Old 07-25-2009, 01:49 PM - Thread Starter
 
WuWei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In the moment
Posts: 11,492
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
bumping.


Pat

I have a blog.
WuWei is offline  
#17 of 28 Old 07-29-2009, 12:42 AM
 
kakies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: far from boredom
Posts: 433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks!
kakies is offline  
#18 of 28 Old 09-05-2009, 05:09 AM
 
jewellz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In my home
Posts: 439
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
subbing

Wife to DH(10/02) Mom to DD1('03), angel1.gif('04), DS1('05), DD2('07), DS2('08), DD3('10) angel1.gif(08/11), angel1.gif (09/11). We follow Jesus, praying.gif, quiverful, homeschool.gif,cd.gif ,winner.jpg,familybed1.gif,femalesling.GIF, and we are a food allergic family.

jewellz is offline  
#19 of 28 Old 09-05-2009, 02:30 PM
 
tanyalynn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: TX, but anticipating one more move
Posts: 11,508
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonWillow View Post
It appears to already be "stuck" in the resources sticky here.
: Woo-hoo!

Having things organized makes stuff so much easier.
tanyalynn is offline  
#20 of 28 Old 09-08-2009, 10:53 PM
 
MangoMommy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 883
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Just awesome!

mama to DD9, coolshine.gif DS7 bouncy.gif and DD1.luxlove.gif

 
MangoMommy is offline  
#21 of 28 Old 10-08-2009, 01:40 PM
 
sunshinestarr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: in the clouds, on a mountain
Posts: 3,433
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
subbing
sunshinestarr is offline  
#22 of 28 Old 10-08-2009, 01:45 PM
 
coleslaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: finding my way
Posts: 1,985
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
love this!!! Thank you!!!!!!
coleslaw is offline  
#23 of 28 Old 11-09-2009, 03:00 PM - Thread Starter
 
WuWei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In the moment
Posts: 11,492
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)



Pat

I have a blog.
WuWei is offline  
#24 of 28 Old 12-22-2009, 10:08 AM
 
Koalamom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Earth
Posts: 4,579
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Great reading!
Koalamom is offline  
#25 of 28 Old 06-27-2010, 10:53 PM
 
brightonwoman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kotzebue, AK
Posts: 2,379
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
THANK YOU!!!!! I think the rest of my afternoon will be devoted to reading links here.

I'm curious, does anyone have any resources on healing allergies from an energy/emotional side? I was just introduced to this idea today, and it resonated--that negative associations with food could happen because of emotional stuff, and that clearing up the emotions could clear up the allergy...I started a separate thread about that, but if anyone knows anything I would LOVE to hear about it.

~Jenni, rural frugal Alaskan, eternally married to Dragon
loving my wild things DS Wolf (12), 3 angels, DS Bear (6) & DS Eagle (3)
 

brightonwoman is offline  
#26 of 28 Old 10-26-2010, 10:37 PM - Thread Starter
 
WuWei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In the moment
Posts: 11,492
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

*


I have a blog.
WuWei is offline  
#27 of 28 Old 02-24-2012, 01:37 PM - Thread Starter
 
WuWei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: In the moment
Posts: 11,492
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

bump.gif


I have a blog.
WuWei is offline  
#28 of 28 Old 03-11-2013, 08:46 AM
 
contactmaya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,051
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19 Post(s)

This looks great!

contactmaya is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Drag and Drop File Upload
Drag files here to attach!
Upload Progress: 0
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Mothering Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off