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#121 of 687 Old 08-07-2010, 12:50 AM
 
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I have those. Maybe I should try them. I feel soooooooooo tired.

So Deb, if you are out there, chiro suspects low-level chronic viral infection is causing the adenoid thing. Is going to recommend an anti-viral at the next appointment. can you point me to a forum at Yasko to read up on?
First, oh man, sorry about your day. Detox makes DS completely unable to handle transitions, it truly sucks.

For Yasko and strep, do a search on strep, or the virus forum at the bottom.

One tidbit I picked up for you - chronic strep is more common in kids with the "hard" B12 mutations (you have like 4 of them, odds are good both your kids have at least 1).

Second (you can read some of this in the virus 101 sticky at the top of the virus forum on Yasko), strep needs to be activated before it can be shut down. And one response of the body to strep is to produce high dopamine. High dopamine = bigtime aggression in my son.

Second, antivirals generally don't work on strep - it goes into "quiet" dormant mode, and comes back once you stop the antiviral (if your chiro is meaning meds - most of them you can't take for very long because they're hard on the liver). Yasko uses a bunch of antiviral herbs that you can stay on for quite a while. However, your son may fight the strep off given some B12 support - the rest of him might not be as messed up as most ASD kids. So I'd give the B12 a chance first. He needs that in place before you do any antiviral work anyhow (at least that's what I'd want, or he won't handle any metals released from viral die off).

Have you tried xylitol nasal spray? That's one thing Yasko recommends for strep, to clear it out of the nasal passages.

ETA: iherb.com has a "free" section (things you can add to your order free of charge). They have Solgar folate available, 100 tablets, right now - great deal if you're ordering stuff anyhow!

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First, oh man, sorry about your day. Detox makes DS completely unable to handle transitions, it truly sucks.

For Yasko and strep, do a search on strep, or the virus forum at the bottom.

One tidbit I picked up for you - chronic strep is more common in kids with the "hard" B12 mutations (you have like 4 of them, odds are good both your kids have at least 1).

Second (you can read some of this in the virus 101 sticky at the top of the virus forum on Yasko), strep needs to be activated before it can be shut down. And one response of the body to strep is to produce high dopamine. High dopamine = bigtime aggression in my son.

What does "activated" mean? Does this mean reproducing? How does one know? Is that when you have symptoms? He pretty much has nasal congestion all the time. He's not generally aggressive but has been more so lately. Even before the b12. Not sure what that means.

Second, antivirals generally don't work on strep - it goes into "quiet" dormant mode, and comes back once you stop the antiviral (if your chiro is meaning meds - most of them you can't take for very long because they're hard on the liver). Yasko uses a bunch of antiviral herbs that you can stay on for quite a while. However, your son may fight the strep off given some B12 support - the rest of him might not be as messed up as most ASD kids. So I'd give the B12 a chance first. He needs that in place before you do any antiviral work anyhow (at least that's what I'd want, or he won't handle any metals released from viral die off).


Have you tried xylitol nasal spray? That's one thing Yasko recommends for strep, to clear it out of the nasal passages.

ETA: iherb.com has a "free" section (things you can add to your order free of charge). They have Solgar folate available, 100 tablets, right now - great deal if you're ordering stuff anyhow!

I will check out the links. He said he is going to muscle test the antivirals. I don't think they are rx versions of antivirals. But I don't know. He was also going to recommend a Standard Process liver support so who knows. My thinking is that if the antiviral he wants to use won't work, he won't muscle test well for it.

I'm at the end of my first week of 1 drop b12. I've been giving him a little as well. I'll try to give more next week. The aggression thing is so weird b/c its so random. He'll be fine and then all of the sudden he'll be a maniac. Or he'll just al of the sudden start to overturn things or throw things around. Sometimes not even in an angry way.

BTW, could viruses take the form of rashes? DD is a rash a minute. Maybe she has some chronic thing going on.

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Carren, does he react like that after adjustments? My DS is really calm at the beginning of his osteo appt and by the end he's practically jumping off the walls. And the doc says it's because he's getting everything going again (like his sluggish digestion). Could that be part of it? Or is he always like that?

For adrenals, I was on adrenal stuff for like 6 months and some other thing for another year (the thing that helped me sleep that I can't remember the name of now) and it did nothing for me. Should I try a different adrenal thing? The osteo said that you don't necessarily have to treat the adrenals if you're focusing on overall health...

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Carren, does he react like that after adjustments? My DS is really calm at the beginning of his osteo appt and by the end he's practically jumping off the walls. And the doc says it's because he's getting everything going again (like his sluggish digestion). Could that be part of it? Or is he always like that?
Nope, not just on adjustment days. He likes to mix up his game. Keep me on my toes.

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Nope, not just on adjustment days. He likes to mix up his game. Keep me on my toes.

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Wedding is tonight.
Do you give him Mg?

I know 2 nights don't make a trend... but 2 nights on cell salts and DD2 is sleeping really well (she slept until almost 9am this morning). And every pee I've done since I started has been excellent. Little things make me happy! I'm wondering if I can stop taking the anti-inflammatories if the cell salts are working somehow on my nerves...

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Just stopping by to say hello.

Kathy- that is really exciting about the cell salts!!! They are one of the few things we've tried that I really could see results with.

Carren- hope today is a better day.

DD finally pooped the other day, and then yesterday she just wanted to eat all.day.long. And I weighed her (before the giant poop) and she's losing weight again.

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Sigh. Really? Just last night I was thinking hey, nothing's breaking, this is good.

This morning? Antivir is back. Happened as soon as I clicked away from CNN's site, back to a window I already had open. On DH's computer now as I run malwarebyte on mine. At least I know that F8 at startup is the thing to be able to choose to start in safe mode with networking (not sure I need the networking this time, but it worked last time, so keep it simple).
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DD finally pooped the other day, and then yesterday she just wanted to eat all.day.long. And I weighed her (before the giant poop) and she's losing weight again.

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And.... I forgot I was going to ask you guys for food suggestions. And to whine that I'm craving cheese for the first time in 2+ years. I think I'm going to buy some chreese at the co-op today and make a baked potato or something. mmmmmmmmm (Sucks, because I'm having WAY more aversions than cravings this pregnancy, and of course everything I'm craving is off limits.)

So- I'm pretty sure that quinoa is giving DD some mild symptoms. Nothing major, but I'd rather get off it at least for a while to see if stuff gets better. Problem is, I can't think of anything else to make for breakfast. Right now, we have quinoa flakes for breakfast, (lamb) burger and zucchini for lunch, (lamb) steak and broccoli (or lamb/cabbage/greens stirfry) for dinner. I tried switching things up yesterday and skipping quinoa for breakfast, but she was asking for food about every 20 minutes and I just didn't have anything else to feed her... so ended up making her some quinoa in the afternoon to hold her over until dinner. (I don't know if the constant hunger yesterday was because she finally pooped or because she didn't have that high calorie/carb breakfast, or both.)

So what would you make for breakfast? If I get rid of quinoa, we have NO grains. We already eat meat 2 meals a day and honestly, we just can't afford to add it for a 3rd. We can't do potatoes or sweet potatoes, and those are the next things I think of for good carb sources. I can't just give her a breakfast of veggies, because she will be hungry again in an hour. blah.

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I will check out the links. He said he is going to muscle test the antivirals. I don't think they are rx versions of antivirals. But I don't know. He was also going to recommend a Standard Process liver support so who knows. My thinking is that if the antiviral he wants to use won't work, he won't muscle test well for it.

I'm at the end of my first week of 1 drop b12. I've been giving him a little as well. I'll try to give more next week. The aggression thing is so weird b/c its so random. He'll be fine and then all of the sudden he'll be a maniac. Or he'll just al of the sudden start to overturn things or throw things around. Sometimes not even in an angry way.

BTW, could viruses take the form of rashes? DD is a rash a minute. Maybe she has some chronic thing going on.
Sounds like a great idea to muscle test antivirals with the chiro. You might consider testing some of the ones on Yasko's strep protocol list.

Totally random aggression is almost guaranteed to be either dopamine or serotonin cycling. A very common issue when you're getting methylation moving. DS still has his moments, although the swings aren't as crazy now. Our TV is behind plexigass because he would run over and randomly start whacking on it. This is my child who was very even tempered and mellow.

And yes, rashes can definitely be chronic virus (again, strep would be a suspect - and if they both have it, a suspect for you as well).

ETA: Sorry, missed the question on what does "activated" mean. It means trying to reproduce, yes - often, what that gets you is the behavioral type reactions you're seeing. Does your son get any methyl donors? Our bodies shut off viral DNA by methylating it - so you might trying giving him some methyl B12 and see if that helps any.

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So- I'm pretty sure that quinoa is giving DD some mild symptoms. Nothing major, but I'd rather get off it at least for a while to see if stuff gets better. Problem is, I can't think of anything else to make for breakfast. Right now, we have quinoa flakes for breakfast, (lamb) burger and zucchini for lunch, (lamb) steak and broccoli (or lamb/cabbage/greens stirfry) for dinner. I tried switching things up yesterday and skipping quinoa for breakfast, but she was asking for food about every 20 minutes and I just didn't have anything else to feed her... so ended up making her some quinoa in the afternoon to hold her over until dinner. (I don't know if the constant hunger yesterday was because she finally pooped or because she didn't have that high calorie/carb breakfast, or both.)

So what would you make for breakfast? If I get rid of quinoa, we have NO grains. We already eat meat 2 meals a day and honestly, we just can't afford to add it for a 3rd. We can't do potatoes or sweet potatoes, and those are the next things I think of for good carb sources. I can't just give her a breakfast of veggies, because she will be hungry again in an hour. blah.
Is this something you can ask the NAET practitioner to help you with? Maybe she can suggest a grain that comes first in the "order", do some treating, and you could try that?

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Is this something you can ask the NAET practitioner to help you with? Maybe she can suggest a grain that comes first in the "order", do some treating, and you could try that?
They do a "grain mix" as part of the initial 15 (or whatever) treatments, but I think we have about 10 treatments to do before that (they have to be done in a specific order.) And then after the initial 15, then they start treating individual foods.

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And.... I forgot I was going to ask you guys for food suggestions. And to whine that I'm craving cheese for the first time in 2+ years. I think I'm going to buy some chreese at the co-op today and make a baked potato or something. mmmmmmmmm (Sucks, because I'm having WAY more aversions than cravings this pregnancy, and of course everything I'm craving is off limits.)

So- I'm pretty sure that quinoa is giving DD some mild symptoms. Nothing major, but I'd rather get off it at least for a while to see if stuff gets better. Problem is, I can't think of anything else to make for breakfast. Right now, we have quinoa flakes for breakfast, (lamb) burger and zucchini for lunch, (lamb) steak and broccoli (or lamb/cabbage/greens stirfry) for dinner. I tried switching things up yesterday and skipping quinoa for breakfast, but she was asking for food about every 20 minutes and I just didn't have anything else to feed her... so ended up making her some quinoa in the afternoon to hold her over until dinner. (I don't know if the constant hunger yesterday was because she finally pooped or because she didn't have that high calorie/carb breakfast, or both.)

So what would you make for breakfast? If I get rid of quinoa, we have NO grains. We already eat meat 2 meals a day and honestly, we just can't afford to add it for a 3rd. We can't do potatoes or sweet potatoes, and those are the next things I think of for good carb sources. I can't just give her a breakfast of veggies, because she will be hungry again in an hour. blah.
I always have aversions more than cravings. It makes life interesting, esp in a cook from scratch, allergies angle.

Millet? Amaranth? We like both for breakfast.

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Nope, no grains.

And yeah- it does make it interesting when I'm cooking food from scratch for DD. blech. All I wanted the other day (partly for convenience, partly for it being an old comfort food) was a vat of Kraft mac-n-cheese with hotdogs in it.

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And.... I forgot I was going to ask you guys for food suggestions. And to whine that I'm craving cheese for the first time in 2+ years. I think I'm going to buy some chreese at the co-op today and make a baked potato or something. mmmmmmmmm (Sucks, because I'm having WAY more aversions than cravings this pregnancy, and of course everything I'm craving is off limits.)
fwiw, cheese cravings for me tended to be me not getting enough fat/calories. Then they'd hit, HARD. Never really missed it that much before being pg.

Another starch... tapioca? carrots? taro? arrowroot? Maybe fat somehow instead? Bone marrow?

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fwiw, cheese cravings for me tended to be me not getting enough fat/calories. Then they'd hit, HARD. Never really missed it that much before being pg.

Another starch... tapioca? carrots? taro? arrowroot? Maybe fat somehow instead? Bone marrow?

We don't need her puking next!

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Seriously!

I just sent DP out for some chreese, but the co-op didn't have any... so he got me Daiya cheddar instead (not realizing it had coconut in it.... I'm eating it anyway. ) This stuff is crazy! And a decent substitute.

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Nope, no grains.

And yeah- it does make it interesting when I'm cooking food from scratch for DD. blech. All I wanted the other day (partly for convenience, partly for it being an old comfort food) was a vat of Kraft mac-n-cheese with hotdogs in it.
I'm sure you know, but amaranth and certain others (teff, ect) aren't grains, but if she can't do those either, darn...can she do other seeds?

Glad you got your cheesy fix. I had a monterey jack cream cheese baked dip at a bridal shower today....I am naughty.

It is hot. My muscle hurts because I had to get up into a car and I drove myself. Ouch. I am 37 weeks today and all I get are the "you look like you're going to pop" comments. THX. I haven't been out of my house in 8 days and this is the type of conversation I get?

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you probably have tried it but buckwheat is a seed? DS did better on tapioca rather than arrowroot at first.
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Speaking of strep, I've always meant to research PANDAS
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Very interesting... DS is a southpaw and a clear right brain dominent personality, he's all about spatial relationships, math and logic. It's also correlated with immune system issues. He also has always switched back and forth for a number of things like playing sports. I wish I had more time to read about this b/c it's fascinating.

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How weird is that? A thin white line on my belly. And one minute later, it's a wide white line. I'm still in denial. I don't have adrenal issues (and yes, I'm a salt fiend too).
Oy, one minute? The salt issue is aldosterone, not cortisol, I think the white line tests for cortisol. But of course you can be deficient in both too. Aldosterone regulates sodium and water balance in the body and spares potassium. The at home test is the flashlight test I posted last month, if your pupils contract in and out. I failed that one.

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I've heard that too, but I supped adrenal glandulars during my last preg and dd is so not adrenal fatigue-ish. I didn't sup with dd1, tho and she is. I am supping with this one, and I'm assuming the same results as with dd 2. At least IME, the key seemed to be the supps! (And last time, I was NOT avoiding my intolerances AND had major stress)
I hope so too! Yes the glandulars seem to be key in helping one heal... I;ve also been reading about liquid extracts which I've never seen. Wilson's book mentions them that you take 2-3x per week. Otherwise he recs glandulars, 6-12 total I think divided into 3x per day. They do contain small amounts of cortisol if they have the adrenal cortex added so are a natural choice instead of hydrocortisone.

Oh Chlobo,
You asked what are respiratory and sleeping issues? I imagine what we face everyday on this forum.... for us it's the congestion, adenoids, and recurrant croup that probably qualifies. I imagine asthma/allergies would apply as well. DS's sleep is excellent now however, thank goodness, but it was a complete nightmare for the first 3 years of his life.

I just read that any disease/disorder that is commonly prescribed a steriod to deal with can be the result of poor adrenal function not having enough cortisol in the body to begin with.


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minutes later the scratch on my belly is still white. . . need to keep up my adrenal supps. Yes, I felt like crud the first trimester and have been feeling pretty good since. poor baby.

I've only been reading recently and should have spoke up about a few things. Hugs to both Jane and Kathy. I wish I could give more wisdom though.

I'm going away for two weeks starting Monday. I had lots of concerns because I would be with inlaws for that time and I get really emotionally caught up in their own health and parenting choices. Beech FEs are really helping me. It just doesn't seem to matter as much right now. Such freedom.
Thank you my dear. And good luck to you too. What are "Beech FE's"?
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Crap I just bought a ton of avocados and forgot the "sparing potassium" aldosterone deal.
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Jane- FEs are flower essences. Beech is one... uh, flavor? (That's all my tired brain could come up with to finish that sentence. )

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I'm sure you know, but amaranth and certain others (teff, ect) aren't grains, but if she can't do those either, darn...can she do other seeds?

Glad you got your cheesy fix. I had a monterey jack cream cheese baked dip at a bridal shower today....I am naughty.

It is hot. My muscle hurts because I had to get up into a car and I drove myself. Ouch. I am 37 weeks today and all I get are the "you look like you're going to pop" comments. THX. I haven't been out of my house in 8 days and this is the type of conversation I get?
Ouch- that muscle is still hurting? Hope it eases up soon. And sorry for the crappy conversation.

Nope, we can't do any seeds either. We've tried all the grains and seeds and failed every one of them...

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Yep- buckwheat used to be THE only "grain" that she would tolerate. We ate it every day for a year and a half, then she suddenly started reacting to it. Tested it on her next SPT, and it was positive- IgE.

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Sounds like a great idea to muscle test antivirals with the chiro. You might consider testing some of the ones on Yasko's strep protocol list.

Totally random aggression is almost guaranteed to be either dopamine or serotonin cycling. A very common issue when you're getting methylation moving. DS still has his moments, although the swings aren't as crazy now. Our TV is behind plexigass because he would run over and randomly start whacking on it. This is my child who was very even tempered and mellow.


And yes, rashes can definitely be chronic virus (again, strep would be a suspect - and if they both have it, a suspect for you as well).

ETA: Sorry, missed the question on what does "activated" mean. It means trying to reproduce, yes - often, what that gets you is the behavioral type reactions you're seeing. Does your son get any methyl donors? Our bodies shut off viral DNA by methylating it - so you might trying giving him some methyl B12 and see if that helps any.

Doing the hydroy B12 at the moment. Haven't phased in the methyl. But I guess I could give him some anyhow.
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Oh Chlobo,
You asked what are respiratory and sleeping issues? I imagine what we face everyday on this forum.... for us it's the congestion, adenoids, and recurrant croup that probably qualifies. I imagine asthma/allergies would apply as well. DS's sleep is excellent now however, thank goodness, but it was a complete nightmare for the first 3 years of his life.

I just read that any disease/disorder that is commonly prescribed a steriod to deal with can be the result of poor adrenal function not having enough cortisol in the body to begin with.
So have you found a doctor to test your sons adrenals? Or are you just supplementing. Adam has respiratory issues & his sleep has been a nightmare the first 3 years. I'm wondering if I depleted him. How do I rectify?

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Oy, one minute? The salt issue is aldosterone, not cortisol, I think the white line tests for cortisol. But of course you can be deficient in both too. Aldosterone regulates sodium and water balance in the body and spares potassium. The at home test is the flashlight test I posted last month, if your pupils contract in and out. I failed that one.
Everything I've read said lots of salt for adrenals. What is aldosterone? I've never even heard of that... Since starting the cell salts, I've been drinking a lot more water too (does that normally happen)? So not sure if that's a good thing or the bad thing. I can't do the flashlight one myself can I? Do we even have one that DD2 hasn't taken apart down to the wires? Can you tell me the test again?

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Crap I just bought a ton of avocados and forgot the "sparing potassium" aldosterone deal.
What does that mean? I love avocados.... I could eat them every day.

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Tell me about it!!! My son is currently waking up in the middle of the night again. I wrote down possible reasons, based on things I know trigger that for him, or supps that are suspect. I have 12 candidate reasons. Sigh.

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Jane- FEs are flower essences. Beech is one... uh, flavor? (That's all my tired brain could come up with to finish that sentence. )

Nope, we can't do any seeds either. We've tried all the grains and seeds and failed every one of them...

Yep- buckwheat used to be THE only "grain" that she would tolerate. We ate it every day for a year and a half, then she suddenly started reacting to it. Tested it on her next SPT, and it was positive- IgE.
I'm sorry, I remember your grain/seed nightmare now. Oh CS, this has been soooooo hard for you guys!!

Um... I knew that about "FE's" but forgot I knew it.

We've all been rather spacey this summer, no?

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So have you found a doctor to test your sons adrenals? Or are you just supplementing. Adam has respiratory issues & his sleep has been a nightmare the first 3 years. I'm wondering if I depleted him. How do I rectify?

Where do you get your camu?
We are going back to Lacava for thyroid so will definitely add in adrenal discussion. I'm considering the glandulars right now after talking with the RD. I'm just in infancy of adrenal research, so I need some time to get comfortable with it all, you know me. Might just start slow with Dr. Ron's Organ Delight.

I'm just using some camu I got from Whole Foods right now. Did I ever get back to you on the acerola? We should plan a trip to the Ecotarium or Tower Hill or something with the kids?

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Everything I've read said lots of salt for adrenals. What is aldosterone? I've never even heard of that... Since starting the cell salts, I've been drinking a lot more water too (does that normally happen)? So not sure if that's a good thing or the bad thing. I can't do the flashlight one myself can I? Do we even have one that DD2 hasn't taken apart down to the wires? Can you tell me the test again?



What does that mean? I love avocados.... I could eat them every day.


See this info on aldosterone and link to flashlight test you can do, it's easy:
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/aldosterone/

Low aldosterone results in an abundance of potassium in the body and low sodium... aldosterone is the adrenal hormone which regulates sodium and water balance in the body. So that is why salt supplementing helps to correct this.

Often low aldosterone people feel worse when they eat high potassium foods, I failed the flashlight test so I'm low.

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Tell me about it!!! My son is currently waking up in the middle of the night again. I wrote down possible reasons, based on things I know trigger that for him, or supps that are suspect. I have 12 candidate reasons. Sigh.
My lists for the kids are often similar, so many choices, and some of them are harder to deal with than others. At the moment, I'm just trying to get past the worst of the hot/humid summer and see if DD's stomach aches permanently subside--been seeing improving trends, but still not zero consistently.

Obviously, I delayed the drive to El Paso, I'll leave tomorrow. I felt like yuck yesterday, not entirely sure why. But I've got laundry going, kitchen is clean enough that I could cook soon (don't need to cook much, just one day's worth of food), and then get to bed at a reasonable time tonight.
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