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Yep. It is August. Already.

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DD is a basket case right now. Very angry. Strange, but I don't think she's lost any food...I'm wondering if it's swimming? Chlorines, bromines?
New baby coming? Life stress?

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So which kind of pool do you think is worse - chlorine or bromine (ide)?

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So which kind of pool do you think is worse - chlorine or bromine (ide)?
I think Jane said that the bromine kind is worse.

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feeling kind of stressed right now, and realized that I haven't been taking my homemade h5-htp, gaba supp. I think that might be it.

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feeling kind of stressed right now, and realized that I haven't been taking my homemade h5-htp, gaba supp. I think that might be it.
Well get on it then.

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So which kind of pool do you think is worse - chlorine or bromine (ide)?
Bromine - it has BOTH bromine and chlorine. And I think bromine's more toxic than chlorine, in terms of symptoms while trying to clear it with iodine?

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Bromine - it has BOTH bromine and chlorine. And I think bromine's more toxic than chlorine, in terms of symptoms while trying to clear it with iodine?
Then why do they use it?

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Danni--remind me how old your DD is? My DD was a trainwreck for about a month before DS was born--before the window when I was thinking it was likely for him to show up, so I don't think it was me changing my attitude on that. It seemed like somehow she knew that the end of my pregnancy was near and things were going to change. Lots of cuddles, fun stuff, low stress activities, all that normal jazz.

Chlobo--are you considering getting a pool? Have you considered salt water? I haven't ever looked into pools, just read a bit in passing. There may be some things that combine with UV as well as part of the disinfectant process, I think it reduces the chemicals that are needed, but I'm really not clear on all that.

Kathy--you have a ton and a half of stress right now. Sorta wondering if that's responsible for your back spasms lately. If you wanna chat things out, let us know, and if you want to retreat to lurkdom and just chill, that's good too. We all wax and wane in how much we participate here. Heck, having a support group of recovering-sickies, it's a given!
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Chlobo--are you considering getting a pool? Have you considered salt water? I haven't ever looked into pools, just read a bit in passing. There may be some things that combine with UV as well as part of the disinfectant process, I think it reduces the chemicals that are needed, but I'm really not clear on all that.
I'm considering joining a pool for next summer. A swim & tennis club. Also, the place where DD has been taking swimming (indoors) uses bromine and I think I want to take her someplace else.

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Well get on it then.
Yeah -doesn't seem to be happening fast enough.

Oh well. nothing like a long ride in a car to a craniopath's place to calm the nerves.

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Then why do they use it?
Maybe you end up with less chlorine? Maybe the bromine's better at disinfecting? I'm not sure. I just remember reading that they use chlorine to 'recycle' the bromine. You add bromine once and it's there forever, then you keep adding chlorine to get it to do it's thing.

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feeling kind of stressed right now, and realized that I haven't been taking my homemade h5-htp, gaba supp. I think that might be it.

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Yeah -doesn't seem to be happening fast enough.

Oh well. nothing like a long ride in a car to a craniopath's place to calm the nerves.
Yeah, nothing like it. Almost as soothing at the long wait for a treatment room.

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Danni--remind me how old your DD is? My DD was a trainwreck for about a month before DS was born--before the window when I was thinking it was likely for him to show up, so I don't think it was me changing my attitude on that. It seemed like somehow she knew that the end of my pregnancy was near and things were going to change. Lots of cuddles, fun stuff, low stress activities, all that normal jazz.

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She's five. My 3 yr old is great. But you may be right. She had a really hard time with transitioning to 3 kids...She may just need more attn...I've been pretty self-absorbed, but dd2 will get whatever attn she wants and ds isn't in need of as much...

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I'm considering joining a pool for next summer. A swim & tennis club. Also, the place where DD has been taking swimming (indoors) uses bromine and I think I want to take her someplace else.
Ah, got it. I've read that pools can be over-chlorined fairly easily, but with someone paying attention, a lot less can be used... read an article on this a while back. Apparently you can ask to see the records the keep for maintaining the pool--I'd need to re-read to figure out what you're looking for, maybe not-wild swings in pH? If you're up for that level of looking into it.

So, it is a crazy hot day today. Ugh. DD isn't tolerating the heat that well, she was outside for a bit, but we're inside now (and bored and cranky). And I _finally_ got around to really looking in the pond-hole in the yard--former owners had a fountain that was sunk into the ground with a plastic liner, we agreed they'd take the fountain but we've had an empty, plastic lined hole in the corner since--and yes, apparently we've been breeding mosquitoes like mad. Ew. Ew. Ewwwww. We are ready to put together our own fountain and fix up the corner, but that corner (which now has dead leaves and rocks and who knows what) needs to be cleaned out first. Ewww.

I am so not motivated to do anything. Need to go grocery shopping, don't want to. Don't want to cook. It's pathetic, I just need to start _something_.

Hoping everyone is having a good, or at least improving, day. Happy August (the hottest, most humid month of the year, at least around here).
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ds3 went for a 10 minute nap this morning (and likely won't nap this afternoon) and ds's 1 and 2 are INSANE. I've thrown the older 2 outside but HOLY JEEZ.

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I swear there's something about summer... glutamates for some, salicylates for others, a friend's DD has more yeasty gut problems in the hot/humid summer, part of me wants to run away.

I am finding better and better TCM sites that discuss stuff, but it's still not enough, I think I want to start looking for a good introductory textbook. DD had another nosebleed last night, which is reasonable from the protein/ammonia standpoint, but also the stomach heat/liver imbalance standpoint of TCM as well, but I want to understand that part better--though I think it will still discuss a more balanced diet than we've done since returning from vacation, but I still want to understand. That was related to something, but what?

No idea how that was related. I have a headache, I think it's my ALA/glycine (which is a lower dose than in the past), I think *I'm* not tolerating the summer very well either. The one redeeming feature is that I think I'm finally more patient and understanding with the kids. Not perfect, for sure, but improving. That was on my Treasure Map, it's a nice one to start seeing (even if it does take my own effort to make those things happen).
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Some from last month's thread and this month's as well...

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JaneS, your description of the skin on our upper arms being like the back of our hands (supposed to be) is fascinating--mine isn't. I need to test DH. Is anyone's upper arm _really_ like that?
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Well crap. Based on what I'm reading about serum sickness these rashes we're seeing likely precede DS feeling totally crappy - fever, swollen joints, swollen face, hives, itching all over, maybe issues breathing.
I would be doing bowel tolerance of sodium ascorbate or getting a C IV.

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What a conundrum. Maybe I should try to see Wedda, if she's still taking patients. At the time I was just too tired to add another long drive.
I'm pretty sure she is. Sodium selenite is not a good form, how much are you taking? The adrenals in the crapper can effect your thyroid. Also can effect whether you can even respond to thyroid hormone.

In fact, low thyroid function can CAUSE low adrenals b/c the adrenals get stressed out by constantly making up for low thyroid.

I'm considering adrenal cortex extract b/c I'm sure my Neuroscience reports are going to come back low. Also there is licorace, ashgawanda, and a few other herbal adrenal support I just talked about (wrote down and promptly forgot it!) The RD was worried I would be trying T3 and not be able to handle it b/c of my adrenals.

The home test for aldosterone indicated a problem (flashlight pupil test). I've been mostly remembering my salt water first thing in AM and do better with this.

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There's talk in TF land about adding whey to homemade mayo to make it a bit probiotic and keep longer. If you could find a tasty ferment juice, that could extend the life a bit.
ETA: sorry forgot this... I have done this with mayo and it works fabulously. It does get more firm with time as the recipe says.

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I keep getting stuff like that from dh, too. We really just don't see eye to eye on this stuff, at all. He humors me
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DD is a basket case right now. Very angry. Strange, but I don't think she's lost any food...I'm wondering if it's swimming? Chlorines, bromines?
Yes, these can effect clogged detox pathways for sure. Will she eat a lot of sea salt and/or drink salted liquid?

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Bromine - it has BOTH bromine and chlorine. And I think bromine's more toxic than chlorine, in terms of symptoms while trying to clear it with iodine?
Yes, bromine is worse, and one that cause major symptoms when stored by the body and also when detoxed by iodine, but both can effect the thyroid.
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Forgot one more thing....

Dr. K's book also mentions inflammation being a cause of poor thyroid uptake by the cells.

That is certainly a factor with me and my high CRP. He recs SOD transdermal cream (which is probably only avail thru him) and a few other things I'll be looking into.
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Y'all count your blessings! I can officially announce now that I have served STBX with divorce papers. Filed on my birthday no less! This should be interesting.

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Yes, bromine is worse, and one that cause major symptoms when stored by the body and also when detoxed by iodine, but both can effect the thyroid.
Happy birthday? And congrats!!

Sing it, sister. eta: Had a major increase in thyroid symptoms after starting a VERY small amount of iodine and had to stop iodine and then have increased TRH by about 3/4 grain since then. le sigh

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The one redeeming feature is that I think I'm finally more patient and understanding with the kids. Not perfect, for sure, but improving. That was on my Treasure Map, it's a nice one to start seeing (even if it does take my own effort to make those things happen).
I got the 'Simple Abundance' book and really like it. I like reading books now that make me feel peaceful for a break between the books which can make me stressed out about my or DS's state of health!
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Y'all count your blessings! I can officially announce now that I have served STBX with divorce papers. Filed on my birthday no less! This should be interesting.
and congrats, whichever you need at the moment. Seems like a hard step, but also a necessary one to move forward. You've seemed bogged down, stuck in a really stressful, tough place, I hope that lets up some as things are settled.
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I got the 'Simple Abundance' book and really like it. I like reading books now that make me feel peaceful for a break between the books which can make me stressed out about my or DS's state of health!
I need to do that.

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I'm pretty sure she is. Sodium selenite is not a good form, how much are you taking? The adrenals in the crapper can effect your thyroid. Also can effect whether you can even respond to thyroid hormone.

I take about 200.



Y'all count your blessings! I can officially announce now that I have served STBX with divorce papers. Filed on my birthday no less! This should be interesting.
Well congrats. I hope you had the papers served by someone singing about liberation!

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I got the 'Simple Abundance' book and really like it. I like reading books now that make me feel peaceful for a break between the books which can make me stressed out about my or DS's state of health!
Oh good, I'm glad you're enjoying it. This fall I am going to put in some major work simplying our house, getting things more organized, less visual clutter, 'a place for everything and everything in its place' type of thing. I've started a little bit, but in September I plan to get a bit more organized about it. For now, just surviving the summer travel and heat.
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What's the full name of the book? I can't seem to find it on Amazon.

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Happy birthday? And congrats!!
and thank you for the bday wishes.

Yeah, reading that sounds like I served the final papers, but no just the beginning of the court case unfortunately. Sigh. I wish it was done. We tried mediation for a long time and it didn't work.

I still really hope we can negotiate a deal ourselves with attorneys for each of us involved in order to provide the accountability that wasn't there in mediation. That is the typical next step. Only 10% of divorces go to trial.

I would have given him most everything he wanted in mediation if he stuck with the agreements we made, but alas that just couldn't happen... he either claimed he never made the agreements or just ignored them. Mediators have no teeth to enforce anything. Also I think he just wanted to stall and keep the status quo, so perhaps that is why he wasn't motivated to negotiate.

I've been extremely lucky. I'm being represented pro bono b/c our incomes are vastly different, and there has been financial abuse. And b/c my case involves a child with life threatening allergy.

We have a hearing scheduled in a few weeks to determine temporary orders for support and then I will prepare to move out. Wish me luck and send protective vibes until then!
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We have a hearing scheduled in a few weeks to determine temporary orders for support and then I will prepare to move out. Wish me luck and send protective vibes until then!

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