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I am starting to use supplements for myself and my 2.5yo. She is still nursing and I was wondering what do I need to get into her directly? I know the B's pass as her pee is yellow like mine but how much is she actually getting? On her OAT she showed B6 and B12 deficiency. Should I try and get those into her directly or is enough going through my milk? What about minerals?

I am starting my list to go shopping so any leads are awesome. They for sure need to be soy, gluten, dairy and coconut free.

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The way they interpret that stuff on the OAT isn't always what it seems - what values for B6 markers were out of range on her test?

I'd do sublingual B12 directly with her (or drops/liquid). I used Jarrow methyl B12 when I started (fine if she chews them).

Minerals, I use Thorne trace minerals (and yes, minerals are good to get in direct). Mag I use mag glycinate, but that tastes pretty blecky. Mag citrate is fine too, and tastes less bad. Epsom salts baths and natural calm work for some people as well.

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The way they interpret that stuff on the OAT isn't always what it seems - what values for B6 markers were out of range on her test?
Here are the highs and lows off of her test minus the high yeast and bacteria results. These are almost a year old and I want to re-do them when we can afford it. We have done some supping in the past but I stopped a while ago and need to start it again. Major probiotics for the yeast and bacteria. Hopefully some of this has changed by the next time we can test.

Krebs Cycle:
aconitic citric 0.0 - 25.0 range hers was 39.31
citric 180.00 - 560.0 range hers was 970.46

Fatty acid metabolites:
3-hydroxybutyric 0.0 - 10.0 ranger hers was 17.44
acetoacetic 0.0 - 10.0 range hers was 15.98

Vitamin indicators:
methylmalonic 0.0 - 5 .0 range hers 5.55
kynurenic 0.0 - 2 .0 range hers 3.28
pyridoxic 2.0 - 26 .0 range hers 1.40
pantothenic 1.0 - 4 .0 range hers 8.45

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I'd do sublingual B12 directly with her (or drops/liquid). I used Jarrow methyl B12 when I started (fine if she chews them).
The lozenges? Any worry with sals or amines with the cherry or lemon flavoring they use as she is sensitive to those chemicals. We are pushing mo and I am taking B6 have not found a mag she will take willingly yet.

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Minerals, I use Thorne trace minerals (and yes, minerals are good to get in direct).
Are these liquid? If not any ideas on getting into dd?

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Mag I use mag glycinate, but that tastes pretty blecky. Mag citrate is fine too, and tastes less bad. Epsom salts baths and natural calm work for some people as well.
We do epsom salt baths everyday and I just started the natural calm for myself and Dd drank some yesterday but today has no interest in it. Getting Mag into her is proving to be the hardest thing so far. Maybe if I put some powder into something it would work.

She still only has a bm every 3 - 4 days or so and that seems to be the remaining challenge but I hope if we get all the supps in it will help get things moving.

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I taught my 22mo to swallow small capsules, that is by FAR and away the easiest way to get mag in consistently, because yes, it tastes bleck. (Just repackage mag into much smaller capsules - I dip them in maple syrup and DS just swallows them). Mag should help immensely with the pooping.

Go for lemon flavored for sals sensitivity - the Jarrow ones were fine for my DS, who was extremely sals sensitive when we started.

That test is old, but I would up your B6, that will increase hers.

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I taught my 22mo to swallow small capsules, that is by FAR and away the easiest way to get mag in consistently, because yes, it tastes bleck. (Just repackage mag into much smaller capsules - I dip them in maple syrup and DS just swallows them).
You just dipped them and then how did you teach him to swallow them? I had ordered the kitten capsules at one time but they got lost in the mail and I never re-ordered. Do I still need to go that small at this age?

Lemon it is!

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Start with the size 3 caps (they're easy to find online). At this age, she shouldn't have a problem with those.

My little guy is nonverbal & autistic, so guessing you'll have an easier time . You can put them in applesauce to teach her to swallow, or yogurt, or something else liquid - my DS preferred the maple syrup dip. Put something neutral in the caps for the first few in case they get chewed. Make a game of it, or whatever you think might work for her.

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