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Old 04-15-2012, 07:58 PM - Thread Starter
 
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I am just looking for some thoughts and guidance.  Until 1 month ago, I worked full time and my kids went to daycare.  I quit my job to stay home and since then have been a bit alarmed by my 22 month olds poop.  My daycare providor always said it was weird but since she was a daytime pooper, I would often go a week and only change one diaper. 

 

Anyways, she was pooping 4-8 times per day and it would be like water, pale yellow and had a horrible acidic smell.  I Dr. Googled and saw that could be a symptom of a dairy issues.  We took her off all obvious dairy and it cleared up--within a day she was pooping normal brown stool.  Then we tried Goats milk and initially, it seemed to not bother her but after a week it started again.  So, for 3 weeks she has been of all obvious dairy.  The horrible smell got better but she was still having very liquidy poops, at least 2 per day.

 

Then, we removed all obvious soy from her diet (had been giving her Earth Balence, Soy cheese, etc) and again, it got better for about 3 days and then got bad again.  This weekend, each day she has had 4 horribly, liquid, poops.  One of them being straigh mucus. 

 

She wakes at least 3 times per night, has night terrors several nights per week and I am just seriously thinking she is in pain.  She is getting teeth right now but these weird poops have been going on a long, long time.  Months.  Years?  Anyways, I am going to get her into the Dr. this week for a lab test on obvious allergens but does anyone have any ideas on what this could be?  Also, what I can expect from the Dr?  Also, do sensitivites show up in tests or only pure allergies?

 

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Sorry you are dealing with this.

 

What you are describing sounds like an intolerance more than a true (IgE or kind that causes anaphylaxis).  Have you tried a good probiotic?  I would keep doing what you are and try that (be sure it doesn't contain dairy as some do!)  Also, you can try testing but from what you describe I would think they won't turn up much. A good food/symptom log would be where I would start.  Also know that allergy testing is 50% at best for a positive so casting a wide net isn't the best approach.

 

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Thank you for your reply.  The one thing that in the back of my mind that is pushing me towards the blood test is that she has had actual reactions to a couple of things.  We fed her fish sticks for the first time a few months ago and she broke out in blotches across her face.  Also, she loves hummus and was eating once with her shirt off and got some on her chest, when we wiped it off, there were red spots/welts underneath where the hummus was.  The same thing happened with regular store bought maple syrup.

 

I do have a food log going.  Have about 6 days down.

 

Does this additional info change your thoughts?  Also, why do you feel it is an intolerance VS allergy?

 

Thank you for your help, I feel so helpless right now and just worried.

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Sounds as if there are some allergies going on.  Redness on skin could easily just be a sign of sensitive skin, but the whelps showing up with the hummus makes me suspect allergies.  Same for the fish sticks.

 

scsgirl is indicating intolerance for the dairy because you are talking primarily of GI distress, which in the absence of other symptoms would point first toward intolerance.  To have such extreme GI reactions to dairy, but not the blotches and whelps you are seeing with other foods also sounds more like an intolerance.  Don't feel like the possibility for allergies is being dismissed.  Intolerances can be excruciating for the sufferer.  And in the end, the response to both is elimination.

 

Even if you have allergies indicated (or not for that matter) you are going to end up being asked to challenge some foods.  If you are seeing a reaction to something (like sesame in hummus) but nothing indicated in the test, you need to challenge.  If something is positive in the test, you'll probably need to challenge that as well.  


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The skin reactions (as Sweet said) could be sensitive skin but yes, could also indicate an allergy. With the additional information I think I would proceed with some testing to thing you HAVE seen a reaction still.

Good job on the food log. Keep it up and let us know what's going on!
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Thanks, guys.

I appreciate your responses.  We are going in today for a lab test.  I just want answers!

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I have a follow up appointment on Friday but I got the test results, her IGE result was 5, which from what I understand is a negative.  Are there questions I should be asking on Friday in light of this? 

 

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If you feel the results don't jibe with your experiences with certain foods, you should ask about that.    Like I said earlier, you might be encouraged to challenge the particular foods you feel you are having trouble with.  IGE (iGE IgE whatever I can't remember) responses are immune responses.  Intolerances are for the most part not immune responses, so that wouldn't absolve dairy.  You will want to get advice on elimination and challenges.  I would focus on the foods that you are specifically questioning, which sounds like dairy, sesame and fish.  


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Thanks again. I don't know what to think, maybe I am barking up the wrong tree with the food sensitivities thing.  I just thought that because there was such a difference made when we quit milk. 

 

She was up 4 times last night crying that her belly hurt and we woke up this morning with poop everywhere in her crib.  She had the biggest blow out ever.

 

Until our appointment on Friday I am going to greatly simplify her diet and see what happens.  She is eating white rice and banana right now.

 

Thanks again for all your help and ideas.   I will come back to this thread often when it is time to officially start any sort of challenging etc.

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A dairy intolerance is not going to show up on this kind of test, and neither is Celiac.  Clearly, though, something is bugging your little one and I have a feeling that even though her allergy results were negative they will try to address your concerns about what might be happening.  Discuss the possibility of Celiac with the doctor.  If you go ahead with that testing you will need to keep consuming gluten-- the test cannot be accurate if you have eliminated it.  He will probably have other suggestions.  This is not normal.


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Met with the ped today.  All the specific allergy tests came back negative--egg, soy, milk, fish, wheat, sesame etc. We are waiting for the results on the celiac blood test but we have an appointment for a pediatric gastro specialist and will go there no matter what the celiac blood test tells.  I am a bit confused what all these different blood tests mean but I am glad she is sharing my concern. Hoping they find nothing but at the same time, I would love answers. Had another huge crib blow out this morning.

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Oh, I hope you figure this out.  Glad to hear she is headed to the GI specialist.  It could have nothing to do with food, but it's clear that this shouldn't be happening.  Though in someways, I hope it is something simple and food sensitivities seem simple compared to other problems.  I hope you figure this out soon.  Keep us updated!


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When we had unexplained GI issues with my son (doctors couldn't find cause) Metametrix comprehensive stool testing did find the culprit. It's worth doing if you don't get an answer soon (celiac definitely should be ruled out/in). A doctor at our local hospital ran it but we had to pay up front and then get reimbursed from insurance for that Metametrix. I imagine the Metametrix company could tell you if doctors in your area use their lab.

Hummus has sesame (as you know) and it's got a super high rate of false negatives on allergy tests. False negatives are really unusual. Sesame, pistachio, cashew, and mango all share a protein. If she's eating any of those I would cut them for a while given that skin reaction to the hummus.

As others have said the GI only reactions can be non-IgE mediated and so testing isn't helpful. The best way to figure those out is food trials. I did a rotation diet with my son and it helped us figure out the culprit for him.

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