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from scratching her poor little face, which is raw and oozing. i've been on an elimination diet for 2 months, i've tried all sorts of topical stuff, but nothing will stop her itching.

anyone know of a good way to stop her from destroying her cute little face? i put socks on her hands, but she just uses the socks to rub her face raw. my dh wants to devise some sort of cone shaped thing like the vets put on dogs.

please help if you know of anything. we are desperate.
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What have you eliminated so far? You need to find out what is causing it. I took my ds to a chiropractor that practices applied kinesiology. We found out about dairy, wheat, and citrus. I know a bunch of people who have had great success with it as well.

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I would try and find an ND or MD who use homeopathy too as this can help get to the root of the eczema, and find what caused it, not sure if your DD is vax or not but thats also a factor they could address if so. Anyhow that has helped me and also DD immensely as I had terrible eczema as a child and am sure DD would have been the same without homeopathy (she also has a dairy allergy). Hope this helps. Burt's Bees buttermilk lotion helped her mild eczema immensely when she had it for a bit...it cleared up almost overnight.
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so, it's easier just to put what i haven't eliminated. all i am eating is rice (white and brown), potatoes, veggies such as broccoli, cauliflower, string beans, other beans, rice milk, chicken, turkey, fish (not eating shellfish, tho), and fruit such as bananas, apples, cantalope.

i have a bunch of appts. scheduled with reg. dr., ped. allergy specialist, nd, but until then, my baby continues to tear up her face. i just wanted to find out if there is a way to keep her from doing that (sort of swaddling her 24/7).

btw, she's only 4 months and she's had eczema since she was 8 wks. she is partially vaxed, but her eczema appeared before the shots. at first her dr. said she would grow out of it, but it just keeps getting worse. she also has congestion since she was about two wks old and it didn't go away when i cut out dairy and soy, either. everyone says it can't be enviro, esp since it all started when she was so little.

sorry to ramble on, i'm just so upset because my baby is suffering so much and nothing that i have tried has helped. my dh is pissed off because no medical professional we have contacted seems to think that eczema is a big deal and we know that it is for our little one. it disrupts her sleep and everything else in her day.
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Have you tried changing your detergent, getting rid of pets, etc. (aka allergens in the environment vs food)? We finally went to the doctor (our doctor is anit-vac, and prescribes off the beaten path stuff I feel safer using...) and he prescribed some eczema oil which is a mild steroid suspended in purified peanut oil (so people with peanut allergies can use it) and it is the only thing that has worked for us...finally! I had to go to two pharmacies to find one that had it in stock, but it's very easy to use, you don't develop a tolerance for it like hydrocortisone, and personally, I'd rather use something that works for a short time than to suffer indefinitely. It's called DermaSmoothe Eczema Oil.

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Here's a link to the group of drs that my dh and ds go too. You should find one in your area. http://www.meta-ehealth.com/index.js...a-ehealth.com/ My family has had great success and I know of several other family that have had great success as well. My dr deals with patients with eczema and they have cleared up since going to one of these drs. Or try a naturopath. You need to find the root cause or it won't stay gone. You need to get off the beaten path. In the meantime I would try and find the cream the previous poster mentioned.

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thanks! i'm definitely going to ask the dr about the dermasmoothe. i looked it up and it sounds great. and i look at that meta ehealth website and found some practitioners nearby, i'll call on monday. as for the detergent, i've been changing it every so often, but nothing seems to change. i'm doing mostly biokleen right now, but i also use tide he, sports wash, all free and clear and 7th gen free and clear. we do have two dogs, but people keep saying that babies don't have enviro allergies. hmmm.

well, until monday i guess we'll just keep socks on her hands. we hate that because she's in the phase where she's learned to reach for things, and now she's getting frustrated cause the sock keeps her from grasping. the actual eczema has been getting better in the last couple of days, its just her cheeks that are raw and sore and oozing from the constant scratching.

sorry if i'm not making sense anymore, i've been so upset that i don't know if i'm coming or going or what.
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My ds had hideous eczema started at around 5 months. It was so bad I couldn't take him anywhere, he was monsterous. We took him to a chiropracter who invented a technique called NMT, and it cleared it up completely in 3 weeks. NMT is not for everyone, though. It's a very strange technique.

Homeopathy is also extremely useful in treating eczema. After ds' NMT treatments, his eczema came back, but not as bad. I didn't feel comfortable going back for more NMT as it resembles methods that I would not feel comfortable using. So I started using homeopathy, Bach flower essences, and two creams which are extremely effective.

The creams are Florasone, Boericke and Taffel brand, and Chinese pearl powder cream. They work together beautifully and neither of them have steroids or any other kind of pharmaceutical. If we apply it faithfully, any outbreak usually clears up completely within a week.

If you're not familiar with homeopathy, seeing a homeopath would be a wonderful idea. On average, I believe a good homeopath can clear up a bad case of eczema within one to two months. But you'll see significant improvement within one or two weeks. Just make sure to choose a classically trained homeopath with a reputation for success. http://www.homeopathic.org/find.htm
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Sorry you are having a hard time with this, eczema is miserable, especially in a baby. I also wanted to suggest Rescue Remedy and Rescue Remedy cream might help keeping her calm and topically with the eczema and you could get it at a good health food store before then. Also the Flurasone someone suggested is good.

Definitely agree about finding someone who is a good classical homeopath too not just says they do some homeopathy. There is a huge difference!
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My ds had hideous eczema started at around 5 months. It was so bad I couldn't take him anywhere, he was monsterous. We took him to a chiropracter who invented a technique called NMT, and it cleared it up completely in 3 weeks. NMT is not for everyone, though. It's a very strange technique.

Homeopathy is also extremely useful in treating eczema. After ds' NMT treatments, his eczema came back, but not as bad. I didn't feel comfortable going back for more NMT as it resembles methods that I would not feel comfortable using. So I started using homeopathy, Bach flower essences, and two creams which are extremely effective.

The creams are Florasone, Boericke and Taffel brand, and Chinese pearl powder cream. They work together beautifully and neither of them have steroids or any other kind of pharmaceutical. If we apply it faithfully, any outbreak usually clears up completely within a week.

If you're not familiar with homeopathy, seeing a homeopath would be a wonderful idea. On average, I believe a good homeopath can clear up a bad case of eczema within one to two months. But you'll see significant improvement within one or two weeks. Just make sure to choose a classically trained homeopath with a reputation for success. http://www.homeopathic.org/find.htm
What is NMT?

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Sorry, I should have given you a link. Here it is:

www.neuromodulationtechnique.com
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Hi, I had the same problem with my little guy and ended up holding his hands down for a while. Then I found "Rescue Cream" made by Bach. (Already tried it?) It's a homeopathic mix of flower essences. For my son it helps a lot if he hasn't been exposed to any triggers in a while, but it just seems to keep the symptoms in check when he/I eat something we shouldn't.
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oh mama i feel your pain. we're dealing with the same in my 6 month max. he was completely covered in raw, weeping eczema until a couple weeks ago when my MIL sent a mysterious herbal lotion from chile that cleared it up practically overnight. i don't have time to type much now, but if you click on my name in my siggy, i have a blog where i write about our struggles with his eczema. we had socks over his hands for a couple months and i'm on an insanely restrictive diet and we were pinning his sleeves to the bed at night to keep him from rubbing/scratching himself awake. we've tried countless creams/lotions/salves/etc but nothing made any difference in his suffering until the one MIL sent. i'm now trying to figure out exactly what it is so i can try to either get some made around here or make it myself as needed.
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Here's a link to a Chinese company that sells herbal eczema creams. They also have the pearl powder cream which has been our lifesaver. We ordered the child's herbal eczema cream and the pearl powder paste. They also have an herbal formula you make into a tea and give the child, but if she's only 4 months old you might hesitate to try that. We didn't order it because ds is only 10 months and very sensitive to all medications and natural remedies. But it could be very helpful. We might try it later.

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Quit the turkey. Almost ALL turkey products, including whole turkeys for baking like for THanksgiving, have milk ingredietnt added or injected into them for "flavor." I didn't realize this as my milk allergy isn't too bad, but my nephew has a SEVERE milk allergy and my sister found out. If you want a whole turkey (forget about lunch meat turkey from now on till the babe either outgrows the allergy or weans), you have to get a Kosher turkey or an all natural no additives turkey, both are more expensive. Just FYI!

Since milk is the most common allergy and takes a full 2 weeks to get rid of, having turkey once a week could be all that's doing it. KWIM? Also, have you seen a list of most common food allergies? Regular, not sweet, potatoes and beans are actually up there in terms of being allergens. My ds1 and my nephew are/were both allergic to pretty much all legumes (soy, peanuts, all beans, including string and kidney/black, etc.) My sister and I are allergic to tomatoes, which are common. I wouldn't eliminate everything at once, except maybe for the most common, milk, eggs and soy, but maybe eliminate a couple per 2 weeks and add them back in and eliminate something else. That way your diet won't be so restricted all the time. KWIM? So maybe for now, for 2 weeks, go COMPLETELY dairy, egg, and soy free and see what happens. THen after 2 weeks, cut out all legumes including the soy and if you haven't seen improvement, add eggs back in. Then add back in the legumes and eliminate something else. KWIM?

Also, red dye #40 allergy runs in my family. Food colorings and preservatives can be a problem. I make everything from scratch now and don't buy anything processed. It's just easier in the long run.

And write down every thing you eat every single day and how the baby is doing every single day. It's hard, but really important.

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wow, thanks for all the great info and suggestions mamas! and jessica, i am reading your blog and wow, i can totally relate to what you have been/are going thru.

so, we've actually had a good weekend, eczema wise. i'm thinking maybe cutting out gluten has helped?

also, quick little mil vent. the batty old woman was crying and wailing on the phone today over the eczema and she was screaming at dh that i stop bfing and start baby on formula. like that is really going to help. thank goodness for dh, who told her that formula was not the answer and would likely make it worse. good thing i never talk to her, i would have told her to off.
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also, quick little mil vent. the batty old woman was crying and wailing on the phone today over the eczema and she was screaming at dh that i stop bfing and start baby on formula. like that is really going to help. thank goodness for dh, who told her that formula was not the answer and would likely make it worse. good thing i never talk to her, i would have told her to off.
Oh, I so hear you on that one! My MIL went off on dh and I one evening and went on and on. I sat there and tried to defend myself because I had tried everything she suggested but it hadn't worked. Finally the conversation seemed to come to and end and I got up and took ds out (it was time to go home anway...past time) and then dh didn't come and didn't come and didn't come and finally I got out of the car to go back inside and get him and he finally came before I got to the door. Turns out his mother had had another fit about how I don't think she knows what she is talking about. Needless to say, I could have said the same about her and then some. It makes me mad just thinking about it.

I know its tough. All I can say is hang in there and keep trying - something will make a difference eventually.

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Does everyone have MIL's like that? I do too. I swear, when ds was bad with his eczema she was not capable of having a conversation with me without getting in a little dig about him being allergic to my milk and I really needed to put him on soy formula (ack!!). She wouldn't quit until she saw that our treatment was working. Why can't they just be kind and supportive, is that too much?
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a friend of dh's recommended stopping nursing and giving him soymilk instead. that's what she did when her dd was a baby and sensitive to dairy.

my mil has actually been the most helpful in finding something that gives max some relief
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We just found the last (I think) food trigger in 2 1/2 yr. old dd. Get this........
RICE and POTATOES! We have relied on these items very much in the last few years, because we eliminated lots of other things. Her other food problems are peanuts, eggs, sesame and tomato. She also has environmental triggers. Last night she took a barbie doll into the tub and the barbie doll's hair getting wet made her itch! It's a ongoing struggle and I hope all those who suffer can figure out the pieces to their puzzle!
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congrats on figuring out the triggers! it's so much easier to put up with an ED if you see it working (or so i assume seeing as i'm eliminating everything but still missing something : ) i've gotten creative with garbanzo/fava flour and tapioca flour as they're the only ones i'm still allowed. 1.5 weeks....1.5 weeks.....(until the results from the IgG-please let them help!!!)
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So sorry your little one is going through this. We became vegan for just this reason. Some quick thoughts: dairy gets into your diet in all kinds of strange places so beware (even things that say "non dairy" sometimes have "natural flavors" that come from dairy. Look for "casein, whey, caseinate" too. Read this month's Mothering - - good article on excema. Finally, though I have been diligent my 4th child had excema since 7 months. Just finished NAET treatments and he is "cured". It is kind of a mixture of homeopathy, acupuncture and chiropractic. We had two friends recommend it, and though I was skeptical figured it wouldn't hurt to try. Seems to have worked. You can do web search for NAET.com or .org. Good luck!
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I wanted to mention that for those of you mamas who are focused on finding all your babies triggers, that certainly can be helpful. But the problem with atopy is that when you remove one offender, the body begins to react to other things. The problem is not the foods or environmental allergens, the problem is in the child. The key to finding a solution that is lasting is to find out what makes your child's body and immune system weak. Usually it has a lot to do with nutritional deficiencies. When the body is not using food properly because of poor digestion, the next step is multiple allergies.

Some of the ways to get to the root of the problem would be to correct nutrient deficiencies and strengthen the child's overall vital force with homeopathy or another energetic treatment like NAET (mentioned by the pp). Sometimes the deficiencies cannot be corrected until the vital force has been strengthened enough so that the body starts using nutrients more efficiently.

So really, removing allergens is only a stopgap way of fixing the problem. It alleviates symptoms, but it does not address the root cause of the problem. It can also create it's own problems by removing foods that may be important sources of nutrition. I know many of us have no choice right at first, especially those with anaphilactic reactions. If the food is hurting you, it does no good to eat it even if it is nutritious. But strengthening the digestion and vital force so that more foods can be eaten should really be the goal.
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But strengthening the digestion and vital force so that more foods can be eaten should really be the goal.
ITA and really love constitutional homeopathy for this (though not the only way to go) but I think removing the triggers is only part (or a temporary step) of the solution too. Not to say it isn't important when your child is in discomfort and miserable but definitely the ultimate goal is to overcome the allergic reaction not just remove the offending allergens. I know my DD is now 17 mo and can tolerate dairy now and am very pleased. Not that I give her much but when I have some she is fine!
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That's wonderful Destinye! That's my goal too. I'm not there yet, I don't have the benefit of a good classical homeopath. But we're making progress with what I've taught myself after 15 years of working with it. Hopefully he'll continue to improve.

I wanted also to mention that a big key in healing a baby is to heal the mother. The baby is very intimately linked to the mother physically, energetically, and emotionally. Usually, what's wrong with the baby reflects an imbalance in the mother's constitution. With homeopathy this is used to our advantage when we treat the baby by giving the mother the remedy. It's amazing how often a mother and baby will actually need the same constitutional remedy. The same goes for NAET, the mother must be treated first.

So you may look at this as an opportunity to analyze your own health and well-being. It just goes to show the old saying is right "Mama ain't happy, aint nobody happy"!
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wow, there is soooo much more to this than i originally thought. i figured that there was a food trigger and i would simply eliminate it, easy as that. well, i have a lot to learn about this. we went to the ped on monday and he still thinks that dd will "grow out of it." i guess his son had eczema and grew out of it, as he calls it. i'm seeing a naturopath tomorrow, and i'm really interested in the naet, i found the website and i'm going to call some of the local doctors.

so, a big thank you thank you thank you to you all. it's great to have support from mamas who have dealt/are still dealing with eczema.
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Just wanted to chime in - an elimination diet may not give you enough information (and broccoli and cauliflower are medium-level allergens).

Try a rotation diet instead. You can look one up on the internet. You'll rotate foods for four days, and log everything you eat, and your baby's symptoms.

I did it with my son and was amazed. His eczema definitely had patterns - for instance, it would flare up on the 2nd day of every cycle, then be better on the 3rd, better still on the 4th, nearly gone on the 1st, and then bam! back with a vengeance on the 2nd. I worked with a nurse to see what I was eating on any given day and what to eliminate next.

If your child has a leaky gut - and one doctor told me that if a child has eczema, then they definitely have a leaky gut - then she could be allergic/sensitive to anything and everything.

Probiotics always helps eczema - give them generously. They make them for babies, and I know one momma who gave them when her infants were just 1 week old.

If your child has a leaky gut, then anything that you eat very much of, she'll become sensitive to. For instance, I started eating venison because my son didn't break out. I ate it everyday, and after a week, he sensitized to it and broke out from it.

With eczema, the key is to rotate. Include as much variety as possible so that you don't overdo any one thing, or she'll likely become sensitive to it.

Everyone has to find their child's keys to the cure. But, probiotics is a must for anyone with eczema - and you need to even rotate probiotics, because after a month, your child will acclimate to any one probiotics and it will become less effective.

For her skin, try breaking open a capsule of either borage oil or evening primrose oil on her skin. You'll be amazad at the improvement.

If you're vaccinating, then I'm pretty much begging you to stop. VAccines depress the immune system, cause yeast to overgrow, which will cause a leaky gut, and boom - eczema.

AFter your child is at least one year old, I would investigate NAET to eliminate her allergies.
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thanks bell bottom blues, lots more info to work on. a rotation diet sounds great, maybe i won't be starving as much. i am getting less than half the calories i need right now and that can't be good.

so, this may be a stupid question, but what is a leaky gut. i keep seeing this term and wondering what it means, and i guess i should really find out.

also, we selective vaxed at 2 months (her eczema had already shown up previous to that) and have decided to stop/hold off on any more. we go to a regular ped and a naturopath and they both agree with this decision, so we don't tax her immune system any further.

and, has anyone heard of this? our naturopath had my blood tested for allergies, because he says the baby is getting allergens from me (even tho i have no food allergies i am aware of), since she is ebf. ???
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The intestinal lining is semi-permeable, just like all the other boundary systems in our body (skin, nasal mucus membranes). They are supposed to allow good stuff, like nutrients, into our bodies, and keep bad stuff (like undigested food proteins) out of our body.

When one of these semi-permeable membranes becomes more permeable than it should be, then it starts to let into our bodies and bloodstream stuff that shouldn't be there. When the intestinal lining lets in more stuff than it should, we call it a "leaky gut". If your child has a yeast overgrowth - and if she has eczema then she does - then her digestion is weak. Her weak digestion causes undigested proteins to be in her digestive tract, and the leaky gut allows them into her bloodstream. Her body sees these undigested proteins as invaders, and sets up an immune response - which we see as eczema.

One holistic pediatrician told me to change my paradigm in choosing foods to focus not on allergies/sensitivies, but on digestion. He told me to choose foods that were easy to digest, and gave me as examples things like lamb & vegetable stew (which my son loves) and chicken and veggie stew.

I would put the stews into a blender and pulse it, so that they didn't have to be chewed.

I also ate alot of fish. If you eat fish, be sure to choose small varieties - stay away from the big fish like tuna and even salmon, since they're so high in mercury.

Our naturopath also told me that once the gut starts leaking, the immune system goes haywire and starts hanging onto heavy metals that it would normally process and excrete. When the body starts accumulating heavy metals, it suppresses the immune system, causes more yeast, which further perforates the intestinal lining and causes it to be even more permeable.

So, absolutely use probiotics generously. Your daughter should be having daily bowel movements. Before I started my son on probiotics, he would go a week without a bm sometimes.

My son also had high levels of antimony in his body. Kids get antimony from children's clothing, which is sprayed with it to make it flame retardant. I switched to organic clothes after I find out that.

Hope some of this helps.
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buglette, yes I've heard of babies reacting to the same allergens as their mothers. You may not be aware of any allergies, but if you have yeast overgrowth and disbiosis (leaky gut) you almost certainly are passing intact food proteins to your child through your milk. Younger babies are incapable of dealing with these allergens. It's also possible that if you've developed antibodies to the foods you are allergic to, then you could be passing those antibodies on in your milk, in effect educating her system to react to harmless foods.
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