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|for adrenal fatigue, are you not a broad spectrum B, magnesium and calcium as well?|
I'm going to jump in here as well. I suspect I may have a yeast issue (took birth control pills for 15+ years, had antibiotics numerous times for bronchitis, took steroids numerous times for asthma, took advair for asthma for years, had a c-section with antibiotics, etc) and would like some advice on treatment.
DD is 5 months old and EBF so I need to make sure whatever I do will not harm her, and will not adversely affect my milk supply. I am still on a TED and up until this weekend was taking no supplements. DD has GI issues (very gassy, green mucousy stinky poop, sometimes with blood) and mild exzema and I just can't get her fully to baseline.
So here is what I am now doing as of this past weekend:
- Eliminated all sugar and fruit from my diet (I am using some stevia)
- Taking Candidase (2 pills 3x a day, 2 hours after meals)
- Taking Kirkman Labs pro-bio defense probiotics (2 pills a day, with breakfast/dinner) (I am switching to pro-bio gold because I realized the pro-bio defense is not labeled hypoallergenic but haven't received my order yet)
- Drinking 1 cup bone broth a day (plus using it to make quinoa)
Here is what I am planning to do going forward:
- Make kombucha and water kefir (my order should arrive in the next few days)
- Is there anything I am doing wrong so far?
- How much kombucha/water kefir should i drink daily?
- I am thinking after reading this thread that I need to add nystatin, pau d'arco, threelac, or something like that. I would like to avoid nystatin because I don't think DD's pediatrician will prescribe it (she wants us to just use homeopathy - we have been doing that for a few months and will keep doing it but I think we need to do something else too).
- Should I give probiotics (or anything else) to DD?
- The Candidase bottle says for best results to take Virastop each time Candidase is taken. Would this be helpful?
- I have been taking the Candidase for almost 2 days and so far only feel thirsty at night and have had a mild headache on and off. Sounds like others had much more extreme reactions. Does this mean I may not have a yeast problem?
Thanks so much for your help! This thread has been really eye opening.
|Well what I have had people do is the Natural Vitality's Cal/Mag in the am and NaturalCalm at night. You do need both with adrenal fatigue. They do compete, especially with a deficiency so I would go to great pains to do them separately.|
K, if you are considering going of abx, I would like to know a little more, if that's ok. You can share here so others (lots of readers) can get something out of it, or you can PM me, or you can decline altogether, no harm done. But I'd like to know what else you have been diagnosed with, that may be unrelated. Anything "big", like diabetes etc? Anything smaller or even tiny that comes to mind?
Do you have any blood test or other test results in file at home? I ask for and keep all mine, even now when they come electronically I still get print outs, but not everyone does. If you do, could you list your most recent results, as you see them in print? If you have too many to list, like a general blood chem test, I'll get you to just list those that are "out of range".
However, if you could also see any results that are close to out of range, list them. For instance, hypothetically, insulin "in range" might be 7 to 15, and your result is 7 or 8, write that - even though you are technically in range. This is because the ranges as they set them are not tight enough for a naturopath. A person can show "normal" on a test, enough to satisfy a regular doc, but be close enough to be significant clinically for a naturopath. If you have nothing like that, that's ok.
There are many pieces of a chronic health puzzle to put together, and in real life it's hard enough but online, when we can't even see you, it's ten times harder. All the info we can get helps, even if you think it is irrelevant - often those little tidbits are the clincher.
Sorry for not addressing previous posts.. again!... but I'm rushing about today and when I saw K is considering going off a med, I had to quickly post this.
|Should I be treating my son at the same time? He is 14 mo & hardly eats anything. How do I get anything in to him to help?|
Just signing on, and you all are talking too fast for me to keep up.
kjbrown, I believe it is important to *consult* (not obey), but to collaboratively discuss your plan about halting antibiotics with both your doctor and ND. You'll hear their concerns and counterpoints to all of us 'crazy internet folks' who do not know your whole story (not that a doctor does, btw). YOU are the expert on you. And YOU live with the decisions, so they are YOURS to make, not any of us, or the "experts". Lab tests don't mean everything, either. They are just a glimpse, a myopic glimpse of a whole picture.
I haven't caught up on the last 20 posts. But, definitely read the thyroid thread and the adrenal fatigue thread. There are a lot of interrelated variables, such as saliva testing for hormonal, throid and corisol levels. In addition, nutrient wise, magnesium and the essential fatty acids are critical to all of those variables. The iodine issue is out of my league, personally.
I want you OFF antibiotics, but not regressing and ending up with a full blown infection. Seriously, classical homeopathy would be my #1 FIRST STEP, regardless, without changing a thing. There is no urgency, imo, as you've been doing the antibiotics for 2 years, a month of research will make impulsive decisions unnecessary. You'll be able to write a book, when you are done; and YOU will know what sounds like the best course of action, rather than asking others to tell you what to do. When you are confident with your decisions, everything will unfold the way you need it to! It isn't just "antibiotics" or "no antibiotics", the big picture has hundreds of variables and perspectives. You are your best health care resource and advocate for yourself.
Your neurotransmitters are a bit out of whack....I don't know if you have active symptoms of depression or not, but it wouldnt' be suprising. That to me also indicates gut damage.
|You need structured water|
K, when you mention anti-yeast diet, do you have a link to one you will follow? There are different schools of thought on the diets (for instance, some say honey, some say no honey), and I think they can be too rigid to follow successfully. Therefore I believe in the miniman dietary changes you can get away with, aside from the obvious offenders, of course, such as sugar that exists outside of a food. Stage one elimination according to Dr Semon is:
|2001 was a bad year for you, eh?|
|Either way, I suggest a thyroid glandular, which provides the raw material for the thyroid, taking the pressure off for a while and allowing it to heal. A quick google brought up this, although I haven't used it, just as an example.|
|Seaweed comes up for you also. You are lacking the sea on many levels: dehydration, low calcium and iodine. At risk of losing all credibility and just for giggles, what star sign are you? Do you live near the sea or toward the middle of the country? Do you eat fish? I like this sea product: lifestream calcium.|
|Orthostatic hypotension (dropping of BP as you stand) is often dehydration, as most hypotension is. As it isn't always, it is a good place to start. You need structured water, do not drink tap water. Structured water is found in natural springs, natural streams, ice and in food. To this date, I do not know of any other source of structured water. The water we drink these days is going in one end, toxing us up, and passing straight out. If you have no access to natural water (I live near a mountain, so I'm lucky and many are, hopefully you are?), then you can do the next best thing and freeze filtered water. You fill a bottle or bowl (preferably glass, not plastic) and freeze it until the top is frozen over, it need not be frozen through, the restructuring and energy will flow through the rest of the water. If you want to go even further in refining your water, bless it, or write on the side of the water, in mirror writing (so it faces the water), the words love and gratitude. Also drink lots of fresh juices and eat wet foods – structured water is found in food.|
|I notice you avoided lactose, do you still do this? Lactose is a sugar so usually is ok if you are allergic to milk protein.|
|You may be progesterone dominant, which is quite rare. But I see your weight and coldness and whatnot, so it all adds up hormonally. The cholesterol dropping indicates the liver is starting to struggle. The cortisol, serotonin and epinephrine show me that you are stressed out pretty badly and “tired but wired”. Meditation should not be underestimated for your condition. I would bet that if you got your cortisol tested years ago, it would have tested high. It is now testing low, in my opinion, because it is exhausted but would still be trying to pump it out at a great amount. Adrenaline is then used, which keeps us in a state of fight or flight, but your adrenaline is low I see, another indication that all systems are being taxed. Adrenal fatigue, as mentioned by others, shows for you. But we need to ascertain whether you are thyroid or adrenal dominant. Here is a questionnaire that might help. Let us know the results.|
Yes, yes and YES. I could not agree more. I jsut needed for this to be posted again. We can all throw ideas, thought and suggestions at you, but ultimately you need to sit with it and use your intuitive sense to determine what the next step is. Anytime you abdicate responsibility to anyone else it does take some of your power away. You do need to be an active participant in your journey-that is a HUGE part of healing.
|I will also say that there are some definite....interesting points in what you shared. There is no question in my mind that you have thyroid issues. No question. There practically isn't a sign you are missing. I would DEFINITELY look at iodine. Without question. Adrenals as well-that cortisol is low. That low vitamin D could be contributing to your pain, but you are getting to a level where that should be changing. Do you feel more comfortable?|
|Your neurotransmitters are a bit out of whack....I don't know if you have active symptoms of depression or not, but it wouldnt' be suprising. That to me also indicates gut damage.|
|Hmmm, I have alot of thoughts here. However, as Pat pointed out all of these things are bits and pieces of who you are, they are not a whole picture. There is no way to get that on a message board. I will have to just second the above suggestion for a classical homeopath. You do need to be doing some nutritional support so I'm not saying to ditch out on that, but a good remedy could really change things quite a bit.|
I have to say that the raw food world is the best place to look IMO in terms of the superfoods. You can put them in smoothies, but you can do OH so many yummy and delightful things with them as well! I have a great fudge recipe somewhere that uses maca, and a raw tootsie roll recipe that has all kinds of superfoods. I'm not saying you need to go raw, but they kinda have the market cornered on creative ways to utilize them. Take what you want, leave what you don't.
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