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#121 of 195 Old 08-14-2002, 11:48 PM
 
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This sounds screwy to me...

I have never had general anesthesia myself, but have seen patients that had it (I used to work as a hospital nurse). I have seen & heard of many different reactions. Yours sounds extreme.

If this were me; I would speak with your physician about what happened. This is very serious.

As for feeling the pain during the procedure...I have had a personal experience with that one . I had my wisdom teeth removed without any anesthetic! You should not have had to feel pain!

"It shouldn't hurt."

Damn right! Sounds like malpractice to me. I have had several occassions in which I had to get more Novicaine before the dentist could proceed.


BTW, was anyone else with you at the appointment?
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It was weird...they told me that my husband (or another responsible adult that could drive) had to sit in the waiting room the whole time! (About 2 hours.) So my dh had to bring dd and entertain her and himself the whole time.

I asked why he had to stay instead of just coming to pick me up, and the nurse said "It's just our policy in case anything happens." I was thinking that was useless, because if I died or went into a coma, it's not like dh could do anything.

But you'd think they would have asked him to come in and comfort me or something. He didn't know anything about what happened until I told him after the appointment, but he said while I was in there he had a horrible vision, and he could tell the nurses were really upset and trying to hide it.

If I ever have anything like this done again, I will choose someone who will let my dh be in the room with me. I only went to see this guy because my regular dentist referred me, but I don't have to see only the people he recommends.
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I noticed dark spots on my 22 month old dd's teeth so took her for a dental check-up and she has four cavities in all four of her molars. The dentist thinks they were probably formed inutero.

I have read hours worth of the archives and still can't decide what to do. The dentist offered in office sedation with a papose board and Mommy not being allowed in the room or GA. For the in office sedation the procedure would need to be done twice for the GA all could be done at one time. I'm leaning towards the Ga I think since all can be done at once unless anyone has any other suggestions that I haven't been offered yet????

Also the dentist we saw was a regular family dentist not a pediatric dentist. I called the two ped dentist in the area and both would not work on a babe so small and referred me else where. There are some ped dentists in the nearest major city that I could check into. Is it adviisable for a family dentist to do this or should I look for a ped specialist? Also should the person doing the GA be a ped specialist too?

Our insurance is also an issue. We do have dental and medical in the same policy. There is a $1500 cap on the dental and not sure on the medical but way higher.. The dental policy says it does cover GA but not hospital fees - would this be picked up by the medical ins?

There are so many variables I just don't know what to do. My dentist of 10yrs that I love and trust won't work on my baby. Having to go though all this and find a new dentist is such an added pain.
Then there is the breast feeding guilt. My older daughter didn't have a cavity till she was six years old . She was only nursed 6 months. This dd is still nurisng strong with no interest in weaning any time soon. Should I have weaned her sooner or at least night weaned her. She hates to have anyone brush her teeth and it is almost a 2 person job to get it done.

Then what about the future. Does this mean that all the other teeth are going to come in with problems too and we will be going though this again with the next set of molars? She only has 4 and they all have cavities. Should we start giving flouride supplements or something. What can I do to prevent future problems??

Well sorry - I didn't mean to write a book. Thanks to anyone that made it this far. Any help advise or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Hi Myra,

I have been almost exactly in your shoes, very recently. You can read my thread "Smilemomma, so glad to have found you...", probably about 10 down. My dd went through the procedure with a papoose board and conscious sedation. It was difficult in a lot of ways, but she came through it really well.

I only have a moment right now but wanted to send hugs and understanding your way ASAP. s You may be in luck, since Smilemomma, the moderator of this board and the dentist we all want for our kids, lives in Florida, though I don't know where.

More later...
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Thanks so much for your reply. I went down and read your earlier post and our situations are so similar. My story re teeth brushing is exactly the same ( not anymore!) even if it takes two of us to do it she gets those teeth brushed now no matter what.

I have a couple of questions: With the conscious sedation what kind of medcine did they use? My dd refuses to take any medicine and spits it out at me. We usually end up hiding meds in food which won't work for dental work cause she has to have an empty stomach. Also they told us that four cavities is too much to do at one time so we have to have to go though this twice if we chose that route. How many visits did it take for all your daughters dental work? If you are reading this smilemomma is this true that it would have to be two visits?

Lastly Smilemomma - are you really in Florida? I'm in the Florida panhandle it would be so cool if you were within a day's drive of me - you could solve all my problems
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My dd has 3 cavities that need to be filled.The first time the dentist used nitrous on her and he couldn't get much done so we made another appt to try again.Second time same thing my dd just started freaking out especially with the being held down part.The dentist is a pediatric dentist and he is amazing.My dd just hated being strapped in.I gave her rescue remedy and homeopathic chamomile before hand.We just had to make an appt to take her to a different ped dentist to have the work done under anesthsia.I just hope it works out this time.
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Hi Myra,

My dd had all seven of her cavities taken care of at one time. It took about 2 hours. She also hates to take medicine orally -- we have had the best luck with giving her suppositories the few times she's really needed Tylenol, for example. But they knew what they were doing and got it in with no probem.

I'm trying to remember what medicine they used -- I think I may have said so in my original post? Chloryl Hydrate is what comes to mind, with nitrous in addition. It worked pretty well for my dd, I think -- she found the first part very traumatic, and that is what I would change if I had an option, but that was over literally in a matter of minutes, from what I have pieced together from her own account and what the dentist said. It's called "conscious" sedation, but she doesn't seem to have any memory of what happened between when they gave her the "sleepy juice" and when I picked her up at the end.

It's a tough, tough thing, but it will work out. And one thing that I've been amazed at is how many people either had horrible tooth problems when they were kids or are parents of kids with problems. One of the first people I told, whose teeth I had just been marvelling at, said that he'd had 7 teeth _pulled_ when he was a little kid, because they had totally rotted. Another person's daughter'd had ALL of her teeth pulled when she was 3. And I've had SO many people tell me, when I blame myself (poor toothbrushing), that they didn't do any tooth brushing at all, or were even more lax than I, with absolutely no ill effects. Which is not to say tooth brushing isn't important -- it is!! (I've started being soapboxy about that myself.) Just, it seems like things have to align in a certain way for there to actually be problems. No reason to take a chance, but it helped me get perspective a bit.

Anyway, best of luck, and hope you get in touch with Smilemomma to find out if it's possible for her to be your dd's dentist!
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Can anyone help with specific evidence on it being ok to nurse my baby less than 12 hours before being put under general anaesthetic?

We found a brown spot on ds's molar and took him to a pediatric dentist yesterday. To our horror, when the dentist poked at the tooth, bits crumbled off! He said the enamel is gone and he needs a crown--which makes sense to me. Because my baby is only 17 months old, he wants to do it under general anaesthetic, and the instruction sheet they gave says no food or drink for 12 hours before surgery.
I'm distraught--ds nurses every couple of hours--how can I possibly refuse him for 12 hours. He will be traumatized long before we ever leave home.

I read in the archives a post on the topic of general anaesthesia, where Smilemomma says
"I nursed my dd right up until about 2 hours before, and she did fine. Do your research, of course, but that's my .02! LaLeche is a great source, and so is Dr. Hale."

My dh is understandably concerned about ds's safety under general anaesthesia and will not do anything that might compromise his safety. So I need to find some scientific evidence that nursing is ok nearer than 12 hours to surgery. I've looked on the LaLeche web site and couldn't find anything (maybe I didn't look in the right place).
Please, can anybody point me to some specific scientific evidence on nursing a baby before general anaesthesia.
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I remember just reading sometime in the last few months that new guidelines for anesthesia are being developed because new research shows that 2 hours for drink and 4 for food is plenty. This was on mainstream news sites, like yahoo. I bet that a simple search through Yahoo's or similar health archives will bring up that info.

Smilemomma has also stated somewhere that bf-ing is the exchange of bodily fluid ~ kinda like kissing dh before the operation I guess So no even food. Just a kiss. That nobody has to know about

My dd had an oral sedative with a 4-hour limit to drinking. She bf-ed 1 1/5 hours before and was just fine.

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My dd went under general anesthesia in June and August for surgery and our guideline was 3 hours for nursing or water...12 hours is outrageous, it's just an adult guideline that someone is not bothering to look into for children and infants.
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We just went through this last Wednesday. My dd is 2 1/2 yrs and was under general anesthetic for her dental work. The work was done at the Sick Children's Hospital in Toronto (they know their stuff when it comes to kids). I don't have the research articles you would like to see, but I can quote you the written guidlines we were given. They say "No solids after midnight the night before surgery. No milk, orange juice or Tang after midnight the night before surgery. Formula may be given up to 6 hours before surgery for infants less than 2 years of age. Breastmilk may be given up to 4 hours before surgery for infants less than 2 years of age. [and because we are still nursing I was told verbally that 6 hours would be safe for children older than 2 years]. Clear fluids only (apple juice, kool-aid, ginger ale, water) may be given up to 3 hours before surgery time.(1/2 cup or 4 oz for children under 2 years old, 1 cup or 8 oz for children 2 years old and over)."

What we did was schedule the surgery for noon. That way we were able to nurse till 6 am, dd had a couple small juice popsicles for breakfast (she LOVES popsicles), and since we had to be there 2 hours before the scheduled time, we were off to the hospital before she could utter the words "boo-boo- nap" – her word for wanting to nurse.

I hope all goes well for you. I was a wreck beforehand. One thing I came to realize about a week before the surgery was that dd would be terrified of the surgical masks and it could add to the fight if she decided she didn't want the mask on for the gas. They offered Versed when we got there, and she was very drowsy by the time she was to go in. It helped a lot, but also caused her to sleep a lot longer than expected in recovery. She was a very irritable child for the first few hours after she got home.

It is a horrible thing to have to have done to such a small person, but now I am relieved that it is over. Her teeth look great and we are just working on maintaining that.
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Thanks for the great advice. The dentist scheduled my baby early because they thought it was better for the smallest ones to go early. That made sense until I thought about nursing, so I just called and they've put my baby fourth on the list, which should make it at least 10:30 and possibly later. It will be so much easier if I can actually nurse the baby in the morning as usual.
I've now also talked to the actual anaesthesiologist, who said the baby can have food up to 6 hours before, breastmilk up to 4 hours and clear liquids up to 2 hours before. And I've done research, which I am going to list below, in case another Mom needs it in the future.
I found an article from the American Society of Anaesthesiologists that supports the 6, 4, 2 hour guidelines (available at:
http://www.asahq.org/practice/npo/npoguide.html

My LaLeche league leader also directed me to an article on the LaLeche league web site that says breastmilk may be allowed up to 3 hours before surgery. It's at http://www.lalecheleague.org/FAQ/anesthesia.html

I'm still looking for more info on nursing 3 hours or two hours in advance. 4 hours is the most popular recommendation. There seem to be good resources on Kelly's Attachment Parenting webpage at http://www.kellymom.com/baby-surger.html

I'll add more info if I get more later. Again, thanks for your help!
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and I don't see why a baby can't have bm, but koolaid and ginger ale are okay

BM is a pretty clear liquid. I feel very offended that they consider "me" dairy, and I'm compared with a cow. Puhleeze... Have the people that write these guidelines ever even seen bm? Or do they just figure it looks like cow's milk or, even worse, formula?
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Hi Myra! Sorry it took so long, I've been out of town at a seminar -- in Pensacola! Dang, we could've hooked up!

It's so hard to decide how to approach this situation. I've tried to do the same thing here as I do in my practice; just lay out the options, advantages and disadvantages of each, and let the patient decide. You really have to make your decision based on the facts, and your heart, Myra. There are threads in the archives (which you've probably already seen) about general anesthesia, sedation, weaning, brushing, prevention, etc.

Don't gather the whole world on your shoulders right now, sweetie. You have enough to think about just treating what's there. You come back when it's all over, and we'll talk more about prevention. You know the old joke, "how do you eat an elephant?" "one bite at a time". This is your first bite, don't try to stuff him all in at once!

Please post back and let us know how you did. And check out sozobe's good news, her dd's teeth do NOT have cavities!

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my daughter is just 22 months old and needs to have dental surgery. she has cavities in 3 of her top front teeth and in 1 molar. she needs caps on the front teeth and a filling in her molar.

i'm so distraught about this. her teeth came in looking "funny", as if they had little to no enamel. i've been brushing her teeth since she was 6 months old, sometimes 3x/day, but to no avail. i've even given her supplements to try to help with remineralization. i've been to 3 dentists and all of them suggest it is b/c of nursing. however, from the research i've done, i know that's unlikely.

anyway, she still nurses frequently and also nurses at night. i've read that i can still nurse her up to 3 hours prior to the surgery. is this really correct? who do i talk to about this? the anesthesiologist?

also, if any of you could share your experience with having dental surgery on your child, i would greatly appreciate it...especially any hints you could give me about things i may not know otherwise.

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Oh boy-my 31 month old has been on a three month recall with his (totally terrific) dentist because of decay in 5 or 6 teeth, including all his upper front teeth. The idea was that we'd see if he'd mature enough to have some work done without GA-he's a pretty happy-go-lucky little guy and our dd (dear dentist) is totally willing to be patient and work with us. We've tried twice now but it hasn't worked out so the idea was we'd just keep an eye on the decay and brush/floss regularly. The brushing has been hard as ds gets all tickly with the toothbrush in his mouth so we're not as thorough as could be...

Last night I got a good luck in Orion's mouth with a good flashlight and was totally SHOCKED to find a molar that has an honest to god HOLE in it. With pink showing through!!! (if this thing was any deeper I'd think it was his brain I was seeing!) He hasn't really complained of any pain but I'm freaked, to say the least. I'm calling the dentist as soon as his office opens- but what else should I do? I've looked (as best I can with many interruptions) through the archives but haven't been able to find something like this. Is there any immediate danger of having decay this extensive? The tissue I see is pink rather than flaming red, or green or black so I think (cross fingers) it's in ok shape but yikes!

Ok- I feel a little better at least for ranting... Lory
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guess i came to the wrong place.
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Sorry you didn't get a good answer.
I came back after I saw an additional post. I was also hoping someone who knew something had replied.

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Thanks Apricot, for acknowledging... it's hard not to get all self-concious when you can see that people have been reading the thread but not commenting at all. Makes you wonder if you have a giant wad of spinach stuck in your teeth or your underwear is sagging down past your hemline.
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Sometimes I feel like a big 'ol thread killer.
I'm kind of amazed no one has any information for you.
Did you hear anything from the dentist?

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I'm so sorry about this ~ both your ds's tooth and the slow answering. I'm a faithful reader here and try to reply to threads because I've been there and know how it feels, but I'm in half-withdrawal from mdc at the moment so I haven't looked here in a long time.

It sounds like he has a big cavity alright, which will need to be fixed. I'd be terrified, too, to see something that looks like brain behind my dd's tooth, but I have the idea that the color is partially an optical trick, like the way the light reflects from the tooth's innards. Or maybe the pulp has that color? It seems though, that if the pulp were fully exposed, he'd be in a lot of pain. So that's probably not what's going on quite yet. I imagine he will have to see the dentist soon about this, and it also sounds like he'll need a pulpectomy/-otomy (pulp partially or fully removed, a 'baby root canal') on that molar. Since you've already called your dentist, you probably know that much better by now than I ever could

I think there's no immediate danger as long as it's not infected (and your ds would definitely be worse than 'ticklish' if it were), but it also sounds like a candidate for infection on the short term.

My dd had a front tooth capped at 33 months using an oral sedative (Versed), which mellowed her a bit but not as much as I'd hoped. She's not a happy go lucky girl though, she's the type that refused being weighed or measured from 8 months onward. When it's that far back, the procedure would probably feel pretty invasive, so it sounds likely that your dentist will propose filling that tooth plus all the front teeth and whatever else might be wrong under ga. Pretty terrifying, I bet, but it would also mean that from that day on you'd have a clean slate.

I hope this helps at all. Good luck, big and let us know what happened!
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LaLaLuna, Apricot, chill, darlin'!

Y'all must be used to the faster pace of TAO, :LOL. It's only been 3 days. I just answered a bunch of posts from September!

As usual, there is very little that I can add to simonee's post. I have been teasing her that she is my cyber-assistant. She is just remarkable with her knowledge and big, warm shoulders. Thanks, simonee, you being here is what enabled me to keep working!

Good luck to you and to your son during this very trying ordeal. I'm sorry that your hand is being forced toward resolution when you or he may not be ready for it, but on the other hand, I'm grateful that he will be cavity and infection free very soon. As simonee said, that clean slate is very close, and a very wonderful place to be.

Blessings to you both. Please don't be put off by the wait around here; I didn't answer immediately because you said you were seeing the dentist the next day. I promise to give you first dibs if you post back with anything about what he says!

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Ok- you thought I was gibbering before, here's what happened with your reply, SmileMomma; the day you replied I was methodically going down my list of links of replied-to threads. I opened the mail with the link to your reply, saw your name, thought "Oh neat! Here's one I really want to read", clicked the link...."We're sorry, the discussion boards are temporarily closed for routine repair/maintenance..." ARGH! So there we sat, for two days...

I'm sorry if I gave the impression I was nagging you to reply, Smilemomma- I truly did read the archives and had a lot of your (previously dispensed) good advice and soothingness to arm myself with. I guess I was just looking for sympathy for other mamas that have gone through the same thing... (you're right- some of the other threads you get a reply from folks almost before you're done posting!) and it does make me a little self-concious sometimes when I've posted something (esp. when there's a lot of emotion involved) and see that people are reading and then passing right on by. (I'm not a high-maintenance woman! Really I'm not!:LOL )

But as long as I've got your ear...

Orion went to his dentist today, did great. Let 4 xrays be taken with no problem. What the dentist then told me was that he'd need to get SIX pulpotomies and caps (where's the emoticon for fainting?) because the decay was severe enough in his four front uppers, and two of his upper molars. I agreed that ga anesthesia would be the path of least trauma at this point so that's what we're scheduled for. (oh cringe.) I do have a question, though (for some reason didn't think of it while Orion was running amok through the exam room!) and that is: the decay in all the teeth was through the enamel and into the dentin but as far as I heard, not into the pulp or nerve. I thought pulpotomies were for teeth that were definately infected? I will try to read the archives again tonight after the kids are in bed but am not banking on making it that far (up at 4 am to study for a microbiology test) and will also call the dentist back to ask this and a couple other minor questions but would like to have the benefit of your wisdom, if I may. Oh boy- it's so hard to make these choices sometimes, even when it's obvious what the logical choice is.

Thanks for replying to my previous post, everyone. I really appreciate the support and handholding! Lory
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WEll I happened to see this one, and I'm pretty sure I more or less know the answer: No, if it's in the dentin only, strictly spoken you wouldn't need a pulpotomy. But while the dentist is drilling the decay away, he may get so close to the pulp that there's not enough dentin left, or even into the pulp. In those cases a pulpotomy would be necessary.

But if the pulp isn't affected yet, I don't see why he'd already know your ds would need all the pulpotomies. Planning for 6 pulpotomies with most decay limited to the dentin only (I bet the "crater" one is further, though), sounds like ...uhm... what's the opposite of conservative treatment?... progressive treatment ?... to me. I'd definitely ask into that.

and more hugs ~ and good luck on the test
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Thanks for your sweet, sweet reply, Lory!

Oh, honey, my arms just went out when I got to the !!! 6 !!! pulpotomies part. Poor boy. Poor mama!

All that said, big hugs to you and Orion, and good luck on your dental cleanup visit. There's tons in the archives to help with the GA issues, and more about maintaining that wonderful clean slate you've worked so hard for.

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well, the night before the surgery we stayed at a hotel to be near the surgery facility. autumn was cutting her eye teeth and was in so much pain that she wouldn't even nurse! i stayed up all night standing up rocking her. needless to say, it was not a fun night! but, it did give me the chance to pray all night

she couldn't nurse past 6am, but she was really fine with that. she only asked twice, and was easily pacified b/c she knew she couldn't. on the way to the dentist, she kept saying, "autumn get teef fixed." we kept telling her that we were getting her teeth fixed so that they wouldn't hurt her anymore. it was really like she knew what was going on.

when we got to the facility, she didn't even cry. she usually cries when we are in a situation like that...doctors, dentists. anyway, everyone at the facility was so nice. they were very "parent friendly". it was hard to hold it together, but we kept telling autumn that we were strong for her, so she didn't have to worry. she kept saying, "mamma strong for me." it was really cute.

anyway, they prepped her (gown, temp, pulse-ox...) we spoke to the dentist, anesthesiologist, and nurse. then they took us back to the surgery room. it was really nice b/c both my dh and i were allowed to go back. i layed her down on the table while the anesthesiologist put the mask on her face. it was like when they get their shots. this was really hard and so sad, especially for her daddy. it only lasted about 30 seconds though. after i just broke down and cried.

2 hours later the dentist came and told us that it was over and we could come back to the recovery room. we had made strict demands that we wanted to be there as soon as the surgery was over. the dentist was really good about meeting our desires.

when we got back, autumn had just started to wake up. this was pretty difficult. she was definitely disoriented and drugged up. she also had blood in her nostrils and her whole face was swollen from the intubation tube they had to put down her nose. it was hard to see her like that. she was also trying to pull out her iv. after about 10 minutes, she nursed. i was so glad to still be nursing her!!!! it definitely calmed her down. it took about 45 minutes to get her to really calm down though. we were released after that.

she was really tired and slept most of the day. she couldn't walk straight until today. the swelling has gone down a little, but she's still a little puffy.

she ended up having to have 3 caps and 2 fillings. thankfully, she didn't have to have any route canals or extractions. i was expecting her to have a couple of teeth missing at least. it's funny, but i was pleasantly surprised at how beautiful her teeth were. she now has teeth that don't hurt, which was our only goal, and teeth that look like every other kid's, which was a bonus.

overall, considering our choices, i feel like we made the best decision. and i thank God that we had such a GREAT outcome.

i think autumn says it best! today i was giving her a massage and she was smiling this HUGE smile and said, "autumn so happy!"

thanks again! and if anyone has any questions, please let me know!
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YAAAAAYYYYYYYYY for you and Autumn and dh!!!! I never read the first part of your story, but I can tell that it must have been pretty gruelling and nerve-wrecking.

AND NOW IT'S ALL DONE!!! AUTUMN IS BACK TO "START"!!!!

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(simonee, Christy's original post has made it to the archives under "hospitalization and general anesthesia")

Oh, my gosh, Christy, that is so awesome! What an inspiring story.

It is so hard to see our children drugged like that, but even worse to see them hurting, physically or even esthetically, our beautiful, perfect babes. And I so agree; what do moms do who don't nurse, in such situations? When my dd had some minor surgery, I was as eager to reconnect as she was to gain comfort, grounding us both again. So wonderful to hear how well you all came through it!

Autumn nearly made me cry, her courage and understanding, even maturity, at facing something so new. Not even two years old! You did an awesome job of preparing her, involving her in her own treatment, and she responded to that. How much better than if you had just brought her in unawares! And I believe it helped her recovery as well.

Btw, Arnica is absolutely fantastic for that post-op puffiness and tenderness.

As simonee said, you all have that healthy clean slate now! (check the archives under "causes of decay and prevention" for special tips on getting her through this next more cavity prone time to the other side of "maintenance only"! )

And she did make me cry at the end; "Autumn so happy". God bless her sweet little brave proud heart, and yours for doing so well with her.

She should be so proud of herself! And you, too, of course. Tell her how happy the computer dentist is for her and her strong, beautiful new smile.





P. S. Thank you so much for coming back to tell us all how it went. Your story will be an inspiration and a goal for other moms (simonee went through a similar situation and still is here today, helping and guiding moms through it all) and also for me. I do think of how things turn out, and just personally was so glad to hear your story. I will tell it at the office tomorrow, for sure! )
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Yes, thank you so much for sharing your story. It makes me cry to read how far dentistry has come. I was once a small child that was strapped down for root canals as a child. This has had lasting effects on me. I am so happy to read that your dd was lucky enough to get the care she needed in a loving and compassionate way.

((HUGS)) to all of you but especially your sweet dd.
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I've looked through the archives and have so much information it's sometimes hard to process it all. Okay, some background. My ds is 26 months old. This all started in June when I noticed black spots on his right molar and right front tooth. I spent months going to different dentists (the first said it was cause of night nursing--he only drinks water and breastmilk--but at least he doesn't hold children down (but we didn't hit it off), tried a second dentist who said I couldn't come back, the third dentist was awesome. She is a family dentist, was able to clean his teeth and for the next appointment we tried nitrous oxide, when that didn't work she was able to give him a shot of novocaine. He didn't like that one bit, so she didn't do the work cause she didn't want to traumatize him and said I needed to find a pedi dentist and have his work done in a hospital under GA. Okay, had the appointment with the pedi dentist--her two options were to strap him down or hospital with GA. We opted for the hospital. She said his enamel is defective and he needs a crown on his molar. Anyway, our appointment is Friday afternoon. I got a letter yesterday that said "Your child should not have any milk, breast milk or solid foods 8 hours before surgery. He may have unlimited clear fluids without pulp between 4 and 8 hours before surgery. He should not have anything to eat or drink 4 hours before surgery." Uuugggh, there's no way my son can go 8 hours without nursing. He still nurses every couple of hours, the longest ever being 4 1/2 at a party one time. How do I approach this, do I just go ahead and nurse him anyway, but will that cause problems? This is giving me nightmares. I'm so nervous about putting my son under. Also I know this hospital won't let me go back with him and they will only come to get me when he wakes up. My son has never woken up with out either me or my husband. Won't this traumatize him?
On top of all this, when I had called my insurance company they said my copay was $50, the letter I received said it is $403.40. We're sooo broke right now, I'm gonna have to borrow from my Mom.
Pierce, my ds, has his pediatric appointment tomorrow to make sure he's healthy for this. Is there anything my pedi homeopathic doc can do about the non-nursing thing? Any remedies I should specifically ask him about?
I'm sorry if some of this repeats in the archives, I'm just feeling a bit of a mess right now.
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