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I can't find anywhere that lists the ingredients. What are they?
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Ughhh, I know. I guess I'll email the company and ask. I've been using Tooth Soap and like it except I caved last week and started using a regular whitening brand 'cause my teeth were looking icky. Old. Now they look much better and I'm too vain to go back to the Tooth Soap right away.

ETA: yitlan - I wonder if there's glycerin in it?
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ingredients per my bottle:
purified water, organic virgin coconut oil, baking soda, xanthum gum, stevia, wildcrafted myrrh powder, organic essential oils of peppermint, spearmint, cinnamon, and clove.

Zia+Lane+Sonora=Mi Vida Loca! :
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Thanks! : Iwas hoping there wasn't glycerin in it. I'm going to get some & try it.
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subbing...I thought I already did this My kids have terrible teeth and we are working hard on our nutrition!
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ingredients per my bottle:
purified water, organic virgin coconut oil, baking soda, xanthum gum, stevia, wildcrafted myrrh powder, organic essential oils of peppermint, spearmint, cinnamon, and clove.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong... I think that baking soda removes the enamel from teeth according to the little perfect prescription book. I believe the tooth whitener has baking soda as an ingredient and she says to only use it once per week.
My teeth were looking yellow (I have a couple cups of blueberry tea per day) after using the tooth soap for a few weeks and my teeth have always been very white. I was thinking of giving up on it too because I didn't want to shell out more money for the whitener. I decided to use baking soda once per week after brushing with the toothsoap and it brought my white teeth right back. Once a week seems to be enough for me. Hope this helps.
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Same here. I looooooooooove toothsoap. I have the whitener but when I run out I just use baking soda.
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Subbing

 Me + dh = heartbeat.gif ds (7/01), ds (11/03), ds (6/06)
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I get 1/2 gallon for $6 and that makes 2 pounds of delicious deep yellow butter this time of year.
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Well that helps answer my question in this months NT Mamas thread: How much regular grassfed butter would you need to eat to get 1/2 tsp. recommended dosage of high vitamin butter oil. 1.33 oz cream equals one dose of BO.
I didn't see this answered anywhere but I might have missed it... I think that would be 4 teaspoons regular butter? If I'm figuring that correctly...

64 oz cream = 32 oz butter

1 dose BO = 1.33 oz cream = 0.665 oz butter = 4 tsp. butter

If this is correct, butter oil is about 8 times as concentrated as butter, so an 8 oz jar of butter oil is like buying 4 lbs of butter.
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how do they make high vitamin butter oil? what is in it? why is it so expensive? dh wants to know..lol
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how do they make high vitamin butter oil? what is in it? why is it so expensive? dh wants to know..lol
My WAPF chapter leader just visited their operation and assures us it is worth what it costs. I don't remember the exact numbers, but it'll be something like this. First, they only make it a few months out of the year (up to six) b/c it requires the fast growing grass, as Price observed. Second, it takes something like 60 gallons of milk to make one bottle of this stuff. Third, this is a family run operation. Very little $ goes to advertising. So your money actually goes toward product. Exactly how they make it, I'm not sure. I think they have to take the cream from each milking and then centrifuge it to get the oil out. There's a centrifuge involved somewhere!
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Second, it takes something like 60 gallons of milk to make one bottle of this stuff.
If could could find out the exact amount of cream that it takes to make one jar that would really help all this conversion confusion.

I know they say something like 8lbs of cream but I don't know how much in volume cream weighs...
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If they say 8 lbs of cream per jar, that's 4 lbs of butter, or 4 tsp butter per 1/2 tsp dose of butter oil. That's the same ratio I posted above.

I don't think that 60 gal milk per jar can be correct. That figure looks to me like it's off by a factor of 10.
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If they say 8 lbs of cream per jar, that's 4 lbs of butter, or 4 tsp butter per 1/2 tsp dose of butter oil. That's the same ratio I posted above.
Oh yeah, that does work!!!

Thank you!
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Toothsoap users, have you ever been called in connection with buying it? This part of the purchase agreement makes me nervous:
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By accepting this Purchase Agreement, the Buyer agrees to receive continuing follow-up contact from the Seller including email, mail, newsletters, product updates, product recall notices, product improvements, telephone calls from the Seller and/or telemarketing organizations and/or pollsters for the purpose of solicitation related to the instant product or any other product or service.
Isn't there some kind of exception to the do-not-call list about things like this? I'm not the only one at this phone number, so I don't want to start getting annoying solicitation we can't get rid of.
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How weird! Nope.
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I haven't gotten any solicitations from ToothSoap either. If I did I'd stop buying their products pronto. That's a big pet peeve of mine.

Do want to ask though: who here uses the high vit. butter oil? How do you use it? Where do you buy it? I can get some through my co-op. For now I just use regular raw butter from the farm I get stuff from.
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Carly - Never heard from toothsoap.

Annikate - I take 1/2 tsp. of butter oil with my 1 tsp. of Blue Ice CLO in the morning just before my 24 hour raw yoghurt/kefir mix and supplements. Dd takes hers with CLO in the evening just before dinner. We buy from www.greenpasture.org. I ususally buy 1/2 case so the price is a little cheaper per bottle.
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Thanks moneca. Do you notice a big difference in the way you feel taking it?
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Thanks moneca. Do you notice a big difference in the way you feel taking it?
Just jumping in.....
I take it at a dose of 1/2 tsp mixed with 2 tsp COL (it's recommended that diabetics take more COL.) I found my energy increased dramatically when I started this. I used to get so tired walking up hills or stairs, and now I just run right up! I am not sure I need to take it in the spring and early summer when I have the raw milk, cream, and butter from pastured cows on growing grass, so I don't take it every single day, but come winter I will.

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Thanks Ann,
That's kinda what I was wondering. I'm in FL and get raw butter, cream etc. from grass fed cows. I wonder if that's good enough? (Probably not, given the crappy grass we have here (if you want to call it that.)
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so question...two of my kids have cavities they need filled...they are also both off dairy..what would you do?
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Wow, still so much info. Thanks ladies!
I'm pretty sure my dd has not only a hole in her front tooth but possibly a whole whack load of cavities. : I feel like such a bad mom!
I didn't brush her teeth enough, give her vitamins soon enough, she drinks floruinated water(yeah, I meant to say that! Its tap, yuck!) has had soft drinks, and candy! ARGHHHH!!!!
Go ahead, I know you want to >
I wish I could do it myself, but darn it, I can never hit myself hard enough.

What do I do?!! I've started brushing her teeth more often, I've been giving her Kindervital multivitamins(liquid) I've been supplementing with CLO and Vitamin C (along with other stuff) in hopes that she would recieve it through my breastmilk. Oh and we still night nurse! ARGHHHHH!!!!!
: okay enough already.
We can't get raw milk here, or the butter oil.:
I'm going to go hide in a hole for awhile. I have an appointment with the dentist in a couple weeks, so maybe I'll get more of an idea of how bad her teeth are.
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Thanks moneca. Do you notice a big difference in the way you feel taking it?
I haven't felt any difference, but I got the last of my amalgams removed just before starting it and then started chelating shortly after that. Moving all that mercury has kept me from feeling as energetic as usual so it's hard to say that the oils have made me feel any better. I continue to take it beause N&PD changed my way of thinking about EVERYTHING I put in my mouth.
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How are you chelating yourself?

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How are you chelating yourself?
Per Andy Cutler's protocol www.noamalgam.com
Check out the chelating mamas thread that is on the first page of dental.
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Hello, I am 45 and I have a 9 year old. Last year I had all my amalgams removed due to mecury poisoning. My son has had many problems with his teeth. I think largely to my poor health and systemic problems, as well as lack of information about the best nutrition. I am interested in helping to heal his mouth, improve his nutrition and help him never to have a cavity again. I appreciate the advice that everyone has given thus far. He currently has 9 cavities in his teeth, 4 in his permanent teeth, 5 in baby teeth. He was given a clean bill of health about 1.5 years ago. I found out he was being given sugar in his latchkey program, and at school so I pulled him out of the latchkey thing. Also, when he was born via c-section, he had an infected umbilical cord and then had pneumonia several times landing in the hospital where he was given very high doses of anti-biotics. This is my question: Should I get the dental work done and then concentrate on nutrition or should I concentrate on the nutrition and working on reducing bacteria counts and then see if the cavities heal a bit? I am so sorry I did not know about all this while I was breast feeding.: Thank you
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This is my question: Should I get the dental work done and then concentrate on nutrition or should I concentrate on the nutrition and working on reducing bacteria counts and then see if the cavities heal a bit? I am so sorry I did not know about all this while I was breast feeding.: Thank you
The amount of info I wish I knew before getting pg too is enormous!

This is hard to say, only you can decide. Are his teeth bothering him?
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Wow, still so much info. Thanks ladies!
I'm pretty sure my dd has not only a hole in her front tooth but possibly a whole whack load of cavities. : I feel like such a bad mom!
I didn't brush her teeth enough, give her vitamins soon enough, she drinks floruinated water(yeah, I meant to say that! Its tap, yuck!) has had soft drinks, and candy! ARGHHHH!!!!
Go ahead, I know you want to >
I wish I could do it myself, but darn it, I can never hit myself hard enough.

What do I do?!! I've started brushing her teeth more often, I've been giving her Kindervital multivitamins(liquid) I've been supplementing with CLO and Vitamin C (along with other stuff) in hopes that she would recieve it through my breastmilk. Oh and we still night nurse! ARGHHHHH!!!!!
: okay enough already.
We can't get raw milk here, or the butter oil.:
I'm going to go hide in a hole for awhile. I have an appointment with the dentist in a couple weeks, so maybe I'll get more of an idea of how bad her teeth are.
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As mamas we do the best we can for our kiddos with the knowledge we have. It's all a journey and we are always learning, changing, and evolving. Did you check www.realmilk.com for a raw source near you? I can't remember if the site includes Canada. If you still have no luck I would to to the traditional foods forum in Nutrition. Mountainmom and Briesen(I think) live in Canada along with others. You could post a question asking for a raw source in your area and they would do their best to help you.
In the meantime could you make some bone broth? I make mine with a pastured chicken (2-4 pounds) and it is really very easy and nutrient dense. I have no problem getting my 2 1/2 yo to drink 4 oz. each day.
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so question...two of my kids have cavities they need filled...they are also both off dairy..what would you do?
Sorry I didnt' see this until now...

Get as much seafood into them as possible. The cultures that ate seafoods actually had the best teeth and bones out of any of the tribes Price studied.
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