Has anyone had experience with this? What age did you start? Any books or websites I could use for research?
I am of the opinion that the earlier you meet with the ortho, the better. I had unbelievably bad teeth, so I am probably a bit biased. They may just tell you to bring him in next year, but they may be able to help her now.
I'd still be interested in hearing others' opinions and experiences insofar as what age they started, hurtles they overcame, etc.
Try to get your boy to wiggle his teeth more.
Also how much work does this dentist do on kids teeth? Also is he referring you to a specific orthadontist. Maybe trying to get a kick back?
Are these permant teeth coming in streight?
This dentist is usually very non-interventionist. He got us through a whole year of waiting (for my son to get older) when he had dental caries at 18 mos., because he didn't want to do anything rash. So his concern seems out of character. Your question about the "kickback" is interesting because this consultation with the ortho. is "free," which makes me wonder a little, about setting my son up for future ortho. work.
It just seems fairly normal to me to have the new tooth coming in behind. My son has one of those intense personalities, and a little bit of discomfort registers as a lot of pain. It is hard to get him to wiggle more because "oh it hurts sooo much mom!!"
Thanks for your feedback.
This pattern happened with both the teeth he has had come in so far (these are the only two he's gotten-- bottom front). The fact that it happened twice may or may not be why this dentist is concerned. He has an upper front tooth loose now. We'll see how this goes.
Thank you for your thorough information!
Was told it must be done during a growth period, between the ages of 7 and 11 or so.
Don't know much about it as yet, unfortunately, but it sounds better than the alternative, if it works, imo. Kim
Nothing was done to his teeth, his mouth is crowded and he has problems getting his teeth brushed and flossed. I think he has like extra teeth.
I know for sure one of his sisters had a tooth pulled and for her it made a world of difference.
Depending on how many extra teeth and were they are will depend on what will need to be done. Most likely braces and quite possible removal of the extra teeth.
I did do a search under mesiodens, and nothing came up. I guess I'll check with Cynthia to see if there will be any more archives added.
Thank you for all your time and energy on this board!
http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu:8000/oralpath/ (click on "supernumerary teeth" in the left frame)
(interesting xrays, but the rest of the site is in japanese)
(short Q & A)
i'm sure there's more out there, but i'll stop here. sounds like it's not a completely uncommon thing, but smilemomma would know more than i would. hope it goes okay.
p.s. smilemomma, i think some of the new dental forum pages have gone away. it's only 2 pages long now, when it used to be 4. i couldn't find the other thread you mentioned to me about wisdom teeth or threads you mentioned to a couple of other folks...
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The written out version is:
in case anyone else is ever trying to research this issue. It was a pretty thorough article. I feel more prepared to deal with this issue now!
I have heard that cranial osteopathy when they are babies really helps but I know no one who has been able to back this up with experience.
Here in Phoenix,Az. the going rate for 24 months including records,retainer and palete expander treatment is around
$5,000-$5,500.All work being done by an orthodonist.
A friend in Alabama paid 2,500 for the whole deal!!!!
Also, I thought it was some sort of bizarre scam.
So, I asked my MIL and various other inlaws with kids. They thought it was hilarious. Apparently, in his family, the baby teeth never fall out until they pull them for Orthodonic work, and then they pull between 4 and 7 permanent teeth just to make room for them all. They said it's about time the dentist has figured this out, as their kids should have been referred much earlier to lay the groundwork so to speak. They have double rows of teeth, baby + permanant for YEARS at a time. My SIL also shared with me that the hygenist has a standard joke about lilliputian mouths she trots out whenever she gets her teeth cleaned. Also she shared the cost of all this orthodonic work on her kids, which was truly depressing. My husband only said he had six teeth pulled and wasn't a bit surprised to hear there might be a problem. Given this family history I guess I should follow through on this. (Truly, they all look normal, I had no idea they were some sort of tribe of mini jaws...)
Is there a special type of orthodonist I should seek out to check a very young kid? How much intervention should be allowed? Can they really tell now how big is jaw will be in 10 years?
Wow, I will have to send this to my brother. He totally suffers from headachs that cause him to get sp far gone he starts hullucinating and having terrible mood swings. Maybe he should have that sugery after all.
Lilyka is almost 2. Her teeth are perfectly streight (of course so were mine 25 years ago ) it is just the overbite thing. Maybe I am over sensitve.
Thanks for your posts.
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Dd was very nervous about the whole thing, so it was nice to just go in, sit in the chair, talk to the dr. and have a casual visit before the nittygritty stuff begins in a couple of years.
And *I* felt reassured that he was telling me the same thing my nephew heard from a different ortho in a different state -- start at age 8 blah blah blah -- and the same thing I'd read here.
I am, frankly, rather dubious. Still, I don't want to condemn my child to a tougher course of treatment by waiting until he's an adolescent if treatment now would be best. OTOH, there's no way I want him to go through this now if it's likely that he'd have to have additional orthodontic work down the road. Yet another consideration is that doing orthodontic work now would exhaust our orthodontic health coverage, and if we needed more work later we would have to fund it completely ourselves.
Does anyone have personal experience with this or have informational resources to recommend? (Yes, I've searched here already.) Thanks so much ~