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#1 of 8 Old 11-05-2008, 08:19 PM - Thread Starter
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I know I need to read through some threads here. I noticed spots on ds's teeth and they are decay I was sort of hoping it was that they were damaged or something- he is such a rough and tumble boy, but no it was confirmed today. I have an appointment with a children's specialist tomorrow. I have been avoiding reading about it b/c I feel like such a crappy mother.

There have been ddays I forgot to brush his teeth....he is not interested in me doing it and it is such a struggle and sometimes I just....did not. (Is there a smiley for shame?) My dentist said it is something about a bottle syndrome? Because he is nursed at night (he doesnt take a bottle)? SHe nursed her children until 2 and a half but they didn't get this because she made sure to brush their teeth (again insert shameful feelings). I don't know if I should try to night wean him? Is that even true? That bm causes that? It is right up at the gum line- she said it pools there and the bacteria eats away I guess.

Anyway, I see there is a thread on curing it naturally so I will read through that. He eats healthy I think. Certainly better than my 6 year old who went for the first time to the dentist (he was too scared) and has NO cavities. (See, I am not a totally shitty mother ).

I am really nervous about going tomorrow. Has anyone been and what do I expect? SHe said that they will have to put him to sleep or something since he is so young and will not really cooperate I don't know about that.....AT ALL. But that it is imprtant to treat it to stop it from getting worse since he will have these teeth for years. She said his grown up teeth are fine. I sure hope so. That is what I keep telling myself that it is just his baby teeth.
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I was just coming here to look for information about this or to post my similar story. I just took dd (25 months) to the ped dentist today. they confirmed 5 cavities. they want to cap the front three teeth! I didnt think they looked THAT bad. I thought they would just need fillings. They said the decay has started to wrap around the front teeth so they will have to cap them.
They also said it was due to breast feeding my dd at night. They called them bottle carries but due to breastfeeding. Anyway, we do brush her teeth every day, though she fights us liek cRAZY and wont hold still so I guess we arent doing a good enough job. So dont feel bad. They want to do GA and fix the front three with caps and two small cavities in the back with fillings. the cost is absurd. 2500 at least.
So I really feel for you!!!
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He did a great job today adn let the dentist look at his teeth. He has 3 cavities adn now we have to decide do we use GA or just in the office with pain meds, Poor baby.

Hazel Sorry you are going through this also!
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Hi you two. I've been dealing with this since my 22 month old DS was 16 months. It is very very hard, and it's hard not to think you did something wrong. But early childhood decay is just something certain children are prone to, and it's really not your fault. We were able to arrest my son's decay using fluoride and xylitol. His decay has been arrested for three months, and I'm still nursing him on demand day and night. I'd recommend you join the yahoo group veryyoungkidsteeth for more support and good info. Feel free to PM me too. Depending on your child's decay, you may be able to halt it from spreading further without doing GA or having to fill the teeth.

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wendylady-my concern with trying to do something to halt the decay is that it is VERY difficult for us to do a great job brushing her teeth. Once we bring out the toothbrush and paste she instantly goes into screaming and fighting mode. It's very difficult for us to do a good job. We try, we really do! But its just so difficult. We have tried making it fun with one of those spinning toothbrushes (cant think of the name right now) the ones that play music.
tried different tooth pastes, etc. she wont spit either. so whatever we use to clean her teeth with, she swallows. I'll definitely check out the yahoo group. thanks!
if you have any tips you wouldnt mind sharing here, please do!
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Wendy, do you brush his teeth in the mid of the night? That is what the dentist told me I had to do if I was going to nurse at night. I could not bring myself to do it. It doesn't make any sense- he nurses and falls asleep so I brush his teeth and he wakes up and wants to nurse to sleep!!!!???! They got on me for nursing on demand at night at the dentist......my family doesn't really get bfing so I haven't told them b/c I know it will be a "see? you should have weaned" thing.


My ds is tough with teeth brushing too but we can use 2 people. I am sure you tried this but giving her one might help. We do that too and ds has a turn, now mommy's turn, now yours. Takes forever though and even with that it is hard to tell if I am really getting all his teeth.
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kwg-yes we have tried the one toothbrush for her and one for us. that just makes it all the more dragged out and painful because she wont sit there and do it. she takes hers and runs off and chews on it. she hasn't gotten the actual brushing technique down yet. so then we have to go get her to do our turn and then its just a fight. we just hate it so we just hold her down and do it. even with two of us holding her down she is such a struggle. she can clamp that mouth down so tight that we cant even get the brush in her mouth! then we have to kind of squeeze her cheeks. I end up in tears along with her every time we brush. It is so traumatic for her! I HATE IT. her two older siblings NEVEr fought us this hard for this long. her oldest sib. had the decay too but the dentist we took him to at that time (we dont live in that area any longer) didnt use GA. they gave him a shot of something that just knocked him right out. and they didnt do caps either. they just filled the cavities. cost a lot less than this dentist wants to charge. and because of where we live now, kind of in the middle of no where. we dont have many choices unless we want to drive about an hour and half or more and who's to say they wont want to do the same thing anyway. the other dentist I called said they couldnt say what they would do for her without examining her but that they do GA too. so I dont know if they would insist on caps as well or not. but our insurance doesnt pay for second opinions and our money is so tight right now! we are scrimping by all month long this month and December wont be any easier for us. and both dentists want their pay up front. so we'd have to apply for the dental credit card. sigh..........
sorry, long and venting but I'm just so frustrated about the whole thing!
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Yeah, the toothbrushing thing is really hard. We do it three times a day and we all dread it. It has definitely gotten easier. I just had to make it a priority, and take it seriously myself. Is there crying? Yes? Not everytime, and not terrible crying, but DS does not like it. But, he's gotten used to it. He never went for the "you brush my teeth, I'll brush yours thing" either. If there are two people involved, one will brush the teeth, the other will tickle him or tell him a funny story. If it's just me, I'll tell him a story, talk about something fun we'll do later. Distraction is the key for us. Teethbrushing doesn't hurt, it's just annoying and kids don't like to be held down (even gently), so taking their mind off of it helps.

We don't brush in the middle of the night. I'd be a zombie if I did that. DS nurses to sleep. Then, when he's been asleep for about 20 min (when he's limp), I fill a medicine dropper with water and a little xylitol and gently squirt it into his mouth. You have to do it slowly so the child won't gag on the water, but my DS has gotten used to it and sucks it down. You can also just wipe the teeth clean with a cloth. After the water, I use a clean finger and smear some xylitol directly onto the teeth. DS nurses about 2 times a night (sometimes more!) and gets his teeth brushed in the morning. I think the xylitol in the mouth all night fights off the germs that might feed on any milk that stay in his mouth.

I hope this helps! Ask more questions if you like. I've been there, and I know how stressful this can be.

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