Can it be done?
Except for a small taste here and there, I managed it until ds was about 2yo. Now he is almost 3, and he eats an incredibly small amount of sweets and junk food. But he knows what it is, and if we are at someone's house and they are serving cake or ice cream, he wants it, and I allow him some.
The easiest thing you can do is to keep it out of your house. That is what we do. Our 'treats' consist of fruit juice sweetened animal crackers or fruit leather. Maybe sometimes some ginger ale or root beer (usually diluted with sparkling water - I myself find them too sweet otherwise). A big treat for ds when we are out is a Luna Bar or Odwalla protein bar. He loves those things.
Now other people giving it to him is another thing at this age - I would be PISSED if anyone gave him anything without checking with me, especially junk food. One of the biggest falling outs I had with my MIL was over her shoving a spoonful of ice cream into ds's mouth just after I finished telling her that I didn't want him having any. When they are older (8 or 9 or so) and at a friend's house, I really don't think there's much you can do about that. When I was a kid I had a friend who had huge boxes full of twinkies and ho hos at her house, and I thought that I had hit the jackpot.
But I already explain to ds that certain foods are junk, and that too much sugar is bad for you and will make you sick. When we are at the checkout line and he is playing with the candy bars, if he asks for one I tell him that that is junky food that we don't eat.
|Originally posted by oceanbaby
I think it is possible, but incredibly difficult. My parents lived in an isolated rural area when I was young, and I was kept from sweets until I was about 4. My dad was a social worker with a local indian tribe (in Canada)
I loved it there - cool liberal teachers, real seasons, free medical care, lots of room to run and play. We moved back to the States because my dad had an opportunity to open his own business here, but my parents have often wondered if they made a mistake raising us here instead of staying in Canada.
i have a 2 1/2 yr old and its hard! at his first bday that was the irst time he had "cake" LOL you should have seen him omng sugar rush!!! LOL. one thing i have noticed at the whole foods in the check out there are no candy bars or junk stuff that makes that easy, we dont go out much so im not pressured by the check out temptations. at the dr office when i was preggers they would ask to give him a lolly poip and id look at them and say no thank u and think to my self, ahhh hes 2? same thing at the bank, dh and i hide somtimes when we eat cookies but he does get them ocasionally. i have noticed though that he really isnt into eating sweets when he gets them. i think its a todler thing.
i just tell people no, or he doesnt eat that, ect. i know as he gets older aty the rate he growing he'll be telling me! LOL
Good luck, its a consitant battle that in the long run i think pays off. like when i grew up we never had "soda" or candie cereal we got "that " at my aunts or grandmas!!:LOL
I'm trying to take the "all things in moderation, within reason" approach with DD. I was raised in a NO candy family. We each got 1 piece of maple sugar candy from my father in the winter, but that was the only officially sanctioned candy. I spent my childhood hatching elaborate schemes to get my hands on the forbidden fruit. At one point, I was collecting used bus transfers and using those to take the city bus to school, trading my unneeded bus tokens for cash with other students, using the cash to purchase giant jawbreakers which I sold to my schoolmates at a 300% markup, then taking my profit and buying candy-candy-candy. Periodically, my mother would find my stash and throw it out, so I became more secretive, very carefully disposing of wrappers, etc.
I know that not everyone in a NO candy household will develop such an amazing lust for the stuff, but I really don't want to repeat my family dynamic with DD. So, I have fed her some home-baked sweets (ginger-carrot cake, gingerbread, gingersnaps - She loves ginger!), as well as tastes of ice cream. There's no way I'll be feeding her mainstream candy with artificial flavors, etc. But I will buy her halvah & honey sesame snaps when she's older, if she's interested. I don't think I'm going to stop her from eating cake at birthday parties, etc, but we will talk afterwards about how she felt after eating the birthday cake. I want her to learn that sweets can have place in a healthy diet, so long as they are wisely chosen, consciously consumed, & enjoyed (savor that sweet flavor and then move on!).
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Trini girl You are the mother, put your foot down, your child should not be exposed to the smoke or the bad food. You are your childs protector and teacher, advocate for her.
It does creep in - I think that's inevitable - but the good news is that so far (they are 1 and 3), my kids are not interested in sugary junk at all! The 3 year old went trick-or-treating at Hallowe'en. He had a great time collecting a bagful of candy. He brought it home and had one bite of a chocolate bar. Then he asked me to put it in a safe spot "to save it for winter". It's been on a high shelf ever since. He mentions it every now and then, but has never once asked for a piece to eat!
I think that sugar etc. is an acquired taste (or addiction) - all the more reason to limit it as much as possible at the start!
My dh's weakness is chocolate ice cream, so we do have that once in a while. My older son can have a small bowl. It's a good opportunity for a discussion about the foods we like that aren't good for us - and about how eating them once in a while is OK, but eating them all the time isn't a good idea. (Fortunately dh speedily eats the ice cream, so it's not an issue for long! )
My Ds hasnt had a lot of candy, but he is allowed to have it once in a while. The interesting thing is that since he simply does not have it most of the time he does not tend to choose it. He doesnt even like cake.... he will eat a cookie but wont ask for more and more (most of the time). His favorite food is yogurt and will choose it over any fast food or french fries..... i bring his lunch everywhere we go....
I just think the bigger deal you make of it, the more the kids are gonna crave it and try to get a hold of it at school or at friends houses.
|Originally posted by Trini girl
all she does is disregard my rules and opinion. so from now i'm the bitch!
It's not easy, takes a lot of attention, but mostly it had to do with keeping the house sugar free and offering nothing sweeter than fruits, or homemade muffins with some brown rice syrup, and pretty much no processed foods. We don't make any big deal of specialness of desserts (rare in our house). For Dd's birthday I made a cake that was more of a blueberry bread, in a pan that put very appealing designs on the top.
I take food everywhere we go. I ignore sweet foods so Dd can see at least someone has no response when they are out. When the sweets come out, I can easily distract her with something I've brought from home. At restaurants I can always get plain fruit. The hardest thing is ILs who have said that they want to get Dd alone to sneak her candy. Dh's answer is that they will never get her alone.
I don't expect Dd to remain junk free her whole childhood. As long as I can take control of what she eats, I will, but when she's older and it's more out of my hands, I'll let it go without making an issue of it. My goal is to fully cultivate a healthy sense of taste so that when she does venture into other foods, eventually her appetite will bring her back to the healthy diet of her early years.
I don't keep sweets in the house, so at least when he's here it's not an issue. And his dad has gotten better since he started throwing fits at the grocery store.
But it makes my stomach turn when we're at my mother's house and he's begging for a lollipop. :
Thanks for the reminder - I need to have a lengthy conversation with her about not making sweets such a big deal.
My oldest is 6 and I have tried to keep him away from sugar as much as possible. It really affects his behavior. When he eats sugar he becomes hyper, grumpy and aggressive.
It's easy at home, but once he became school age it has become impossible. It seems to always be someones birthday so they're eating cupcakes. Or it's Christmas, Easter, Valentine's Day. . .which somehow all translate to eating sugary treats.
I get so mad.
When I was a kid at Valentine's Day we all gave each other hand made cards. Now-a-days it's store bought cards and candy from each of your friends. Which means my ds comes home with 20 pieces of candy. This is just not necessary and I refuse to have him give candy to everyone, but I can't prevent him from receiving it.
He usually brings it all home and I let him pick one piece and let his 3 1/2 year old brother pick one piece and then I put the rest away for "later" and "later" never comes.
I'm all for "all things in moderation" and so sure once in a while a sweet treat for a special occasion I can understand, but it seems that sweets are offered to kids for every possible occasion. For example going to the bank or grocery store why does my kids need to be offered a lollipop? Why at every possible school celebration - of which there are a million - does there have to be a sugary treat? IMHO it takes the specialness out of these treats.
I’ve begun a search for alternatives to conventional candy, cakes and sweets because I do want to allow these types of treats in our family. I have found many things that could be labeled candy or other “treats” with ingredients that I find acceptable and DC finds yummy like candies sweetened with fruit juice/no additives.
I agree with people about finding like minded like-minded friends or at least understanding friends who will help you limit foods you don’t want DC to have. It is also geographic. When I was in Santa Cruz people were hyper sensitive to what any individual child was allowed to have. Now, I live in a place where people constantly offer DC candy or treats when we are out. In the spirit of “it takes a village” I allow this kind of offering but I limit it when it gets excessive.
I also totally agree with the idea of moderation but this is our family motto and was my life motto growing up. I literally tried everything I could get my hands on – in moderation.
If you feel strongly about limiting all things that could be considered candy, cookies or sweets maybe it would be a good idea to find some alternatives that you *do* allow. You could make smoothies and freeze them for “ice cream” or bake some healthy “treats”. Frozen grapes were a favorite of mine growing up.
I think there are two ways of looking this. Either you can label healthy sweets as "candy/cookies/sweets" and prepare them and serve them as "treats" or you could not allow “sweets” but allow home baked sweets and fruit. In the end, you are still offering the same foods, kwim?
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|Originally posted by rebx
I'm trying to take the "all things in moderation, within reason" approach with DD. I was raised in a NO candy family. We each got 1 piece of maple sugar candy from my father in the winter, but that was the only officially sanctioned candy. I spent my childhood hatching elaborate schemes to get my hands on the forbidden fruit.
As to wether it is possible, I guess so as long as the child is not independant enough to get money, walk to the store and buy it themselves. But I think it is hard.
|As to wether it is possible, I guess so as long as the child is not independant enough to get money, walk to the store and buy it themselves.|
I should have added to my earlier post that there's no way I'll be buying DD mainstream candy because I know she'll get plenty of it from others...So, I'll model moderate consumption of other treats instead.
IdentityCrisisMama - You articulated some things I hadn't put into words yet for myself. Thanks!
Anyway, I bring this up because they called these things “natures candy” and I thought it was cool.
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We have been very slow to introduce foods, so the family has so far been good about checking before offering things to my 1 year old, but I'm sure it will get harder.