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Old 09-08-2004, 01:57 AM - Thread Starter
 
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hjohnson~ My babies were 9 days, and 6 days overdue naturally, and they were'nt overly big or anything. I hope you go into labour before you get induced, it's not good to mess with nature. There are a lot of risks to getting induced (higher c-section rate). I had my last baby unassisted, so it's hard for me to imagine a doctor telling me when my baby comes out. I really hope everything goes as you wish it to be. Many blessing!!!
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I haven't posted here in months but I do keep up with you all everyday and so I feel I know you all so well. So, I decided to reintroduce myself and come out in the open again. I'm gonna try to stick with posting more. This is a great group of mommas!

Ds was born 11-12-02. He is totally into trucks, cars, trains, and planes right now. He is also turning into a real daddy's boy, wanting my dh more than me when he is around. I am enjoying the little breaks! We still nurse a lot, day and night and I am starting to get a little burned out. I'm just thinking about creative ways to cut back a little. He really understands everything I say but I'm not sure how to handle it when he cries and begs to nurse. Obviously, I nurse him, but if I already said no once what is that teaching him. I really don't waiver at all on other things...once I've said no that's it. Anyway, I'm also thinking about TTC in a big way and wondering how all this will play into it. I just read Adventures in Tandem Nursing and I will say it scared me a little. Maybe I"m not so ready for a second baby.

Sorry for the rambling. I feel like one of you even though you don't know me. I"ll do better.

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hey Beth

can you tell me more about adventures in tandem nursing? TIA.
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and i forgot to say thank you to everyone for the help with the Genetian

solsticemama - about eating, dd is different everyday. i never know what to expect - sometimes she is eating all day and some days she barely eats. I just let her tell me when she is hungry, and often let her pick from the refridgerator. Sometimes I make up a plate of different foods and she grazes all day long. Actually she grazes anyways :LOL whether i do it intentionally or not.

lately her faves have been : kefir, berries and fruit of all kinds,beans with brown rice, home made popcorn.

She seems to be getting pickier, and often rejects meat (and other stuff to), like she chews it up and then spits it out. I am ignoring it and hoping it passes, or that she at least learns to spit it in her napkin instead of my hand!!
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Punk- Adventures in Tandem Nursing is a great resource book. Hillary FLower talks about all the basics: positioning, your relationship with older child, sibling relationships, health and nutrition, troubleshooting, nursing during a pregnancy...I could go on. It is peppered with anecdotes from experienced moms and that is a really nice part of this book. It really put pregnancy and nursing and tandem nursing in perspective for me as I had forgotten a little about the intensity of a newborn and she talks a lot about making life adjustments with a newborn, a toddler and then on top on that, nursing both of them. I will say it took the wind out of my sails a bit and has made me reconsider ttc soon and/or tandem nursing. But, then I see and hold my nephew and I'm all ready again!

It's a great read and I'm glad I've read it before getting pg as I think it has impacted my decision making process. I couldn't find it in any library or borrow it from anyone so I bought mine on Amazon. I think I'll be glad I own a copy if I ever do tandem. HTH
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My inducement got postponed till Friday so David has a little more time to decide if he wants to come out before then.

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hjohnson... I hope your baby can make his debut soon!

I'm tandem nursing my girls, and it's a challenge. there is a real natural instinct (for me anyways) to not let my older girl nurse. But she is really helping my supply increase, so I let her. And I don't *want* to wean her. I think that if I have another baby I will wait till Samaya has weaned. That probably won't be for another 3 years or so.
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heather, you sound well. i'm glad you feel okay with where you are.

me and family have been sick for a week and half now. a strange sort of vacation.

mr. clean's magic eraser might do the job on the fluorescent marker.

having more babies.....nursing two or having two when you have one is just not easy to realize until it happens. some mammas have told me they thought the change to two children to be the harder than the change to having the first, or having more. the age spacing can sometimes be controlled. this is the physical part whether it is carrying two kids or maybe it would be nice if one kid could take off wet clothes by themselves, or grab something to eat. the work and exhaustion for mamma is definitely more when the spacing is leaner. this is an understatement but i don't want to sound funky.

as for the chemistry between the siblings and mamma and dad, this cannot be planned whatsoever. something i did not understand before i had two and more kids, is that i have to parent something invisible called the dynamic. it is the vibe and interaction between people that i was not prepared for. when dh was at work when i had my second, it was no longer just the permutation of me and reed, dealing with each other. it was the combinations of me and reed, me and clay, and clay and reed. then there's me interfering with them like reed throwing a towel on the baby, clay pooping and interrupting me preparing food for reed, and reed wanting my undivided attention, which i learned to fare much better with clay nursing and sleeping in the sling all day. but maybe this description can sort of explain the difference of focus with the addition of a baby. i've had to learn to see them as a group, and sometimes with me part of the group, but it is not easy to sift through all the directions when there have been concrete lines drawn with the one child.

having said all that, there's is no way to really prepare, one can just do. and i highly recommend having more than one child even though i did not plan it. i wonder about family planning after all, now that i have the choice when i didn't before. it is certainly easier on my conscience when i don't decide wholeheartedly and intelligently to have a baby. all that responsibility could be too much for my little brain.
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hope you don't mind, i have more ramblings.....in my case, tandem nursing has definitely outweighed the not as i did with my first pair of kids. nursing solves many situations quickly. though with two children mammas learn to do different things as well, like picking up a child by the arm with one hand.....

intentional spacing in these times is a weird subject i haven't figured out. originally i wanted four to five year spacing. this would assume generally that the older child could somewhat forage for food and water, put on their own clothes if they were willing, and wipe their own butt, and not easily run off in a parking lot. i do tend to see some parents, once they get to that older age, decide that they are fine with just the one since the sleepless work of babyhood has gone. and i might have decided that as well. for now, i would just like us to be happy financially and have a daily rhythm for all of us including dh bfore having more.

and the naps. we have different needs relating to the nap. one is that child needs sleep and is cranky otherwise. two is that mamma wants the time alone (which another child picks up on fast and realizes that if they are awake while another is napping, they can have mom all to themselves). three is the desire to keep with a regular rhythm. when naps disappear and change, it helps me to figure what exactly it is that i'm not pleased with, and work from there. when it gets to where i'm spending more time trying to achieve naps than the actual napping time, then i know i have to give up. different kids have different sleep needs.
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i love tandem nursing, no question. it really helps me to reconnect with beanbean on those days when 'm way too frustrated with him. he can nurse and relax and fall asleep, and it's just a wonderful feeling that reminds me why i wanted to have children in the first place.

nursing through pregnancy was different, and one of the most depressing experiences of my life. BeanBean was not physically ready to be eating more solid foods (he was still getting at least 80% of his nutrition from my milk) to say nothing of emotionally ready. I lost my milk and it was heartbreaking for both of us. I was so depressed, it was really hard to watch my son suffering. He started to get sick, his digestion was terrible, and he was generally unhappy all the time. I was so angry with myself for not taking seriously the idea that I might lose my milk if I got pregnant; I'd always had so much, I figured my supply would be fine. I'm still sad when I look back on it.

We do not intend to TTC #3 until BooBah is able to drink Pediasure and eat enough food to sustain her. I wouldn't mind nursing her (or even both of them) during the pregnancy, but I don't want to feel like they're suffering because they don't have enough nursies. As I said before, I love tandem nursing. It's fabulous, and I really feel sorry for mothers of non-nursing toddlers because I have no idea how I'd deal with BeanBean if I didn't have nursies to offer him a lot of the time.

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I love hearing the perspectives on tandem nursing. I feel so ready to ttc and ds would be almost 3 by the time there would be another baby around...I just have to gear myself up for it and take it as it comes. That's how I've handled every other parenting decision so far and I feel great about where we are! My instincts haven't betrayed me yet!
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I am so in awe of all you tandum nursers! We are certain that one child is enough for us. I cannot even imagine having another let alone tandum nursing. I am so glad that people like you wonderful momma's are having more children b/c it gives me hope for the next generation.

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Hello mamas,

We had a huge storm last Friday that knocked down a bunch of power lines, so we didn't have electricity. We had to stay in a hotel on Saturday night because we couldn't stand another night without air conditioning, and Crystal's medical equip. needed to be recharged after running on battery power for two days... Anyway we're up and running again now!

I had another three-day-marathon migraine which ended today, so I'm getting back into my groove with the housework and stuff.

We moved Zach's crib mattress onto the floor in our room, next to the bed. I'm making him sleep on his mattress, and if he wakes up in the middle of the night I'll lay with him down there. He did not like the idea at first- I told him "You have to sleep in your own bed now" and pointed to it and he whimpered "Bed? Nigh-night?" and pointed to my bed. In his new bed he'll nurse for 30 minutes, fall asleep, and as soon as I slip the nipple out of his mouth he wakes up screaming because he knows I'm going to leave. So, I haven't been getting much sleep lately, but I anticipate we'll have a few more bad nights like this before he gets the hang of it. I know this is something I have to do to save my sanity.

Zachary fights his naps a lot lately, too. He might skip a nap altogether, or he'll fall asleep anywhere from 3pm-5pm and sleep for 2 hours. He never has trouble going to bed at night, so it doesn't bother me when he does that. He actually does fine if he skips a nap- Julianna on the other hand falls to pieces and you can't take her anywhere. She HAS to sleep at her regular times or she goes nuts. So, everyone is different.

DH and I are planning on TTC next spring, as a 5th anniversary present to ourselves. I don't know if I can wait that long, though... :LOL I didn't want to have a summer delivery, or be big and pregnant during an Arizona summer, but we shall see. All this talk about tandem nursing and newborns and inducing labor has put babies on my brain! That, and I've been watching all the Discovery Health Channel's Baby Week shows...

Welcome to the new mama from Flagstaff! Next time I drive up north for the day we'll have to have a picnic together

Good luck on your upcoming delivery, Heather! I hope you have the birth you're wanting with David. Enjoy this wonderful time in your life...

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i feel the same way! but i really flip flop a lot.. i LOVED being pregnant and i want to be again sooo much! but id like to be pregnant for like..24 months before having the baby..hehe. i dont feel like the milk thing is that much of an issue for us anymore.. my milk isnt much now and i think elwynn would want to nurse anyways..milkies or not..i guess the other factor is that elwynn's pappa and i really arent together and even if we were he NEVER wants to have more babies..or so he says..so i better find someone quick.. i guess there are other options, but i would really like to have a family(not that elwynn isnt the best little family anyone could ever have!)

we went to the dr yesterday because i noticed this white lump on elwynns penis a while ago.. it concerned me..i thought it was a cyst..but the doctor says its "smegma" an accumulation dead cells and oils that got trapped under the foreskin and it will naturally work its self out.she said that the first time she saw it she thought it was a cyst too, but its pretty common ctually.. im very relieved.

he also gained almost a pound and grew half an inch in the last month which for him is huge! he was 16 lbs at one year and 18.7 last time i weighed him (a month ago) and now he is 19.3. YAY. maybe, just maybe he will be 20 for his #2. he really needs to get a little more chub on him if we are ever going to go diaper free because he has no bum at all.. i can hold his whole little behind in one hand and i have smallish hands!! i think little samaya will soon be bigger than him. by the way she is a little angel.. 2
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BeanBean is definately losing weight. He's stopped drinking so much pediasure, he's mostly refusing it and asking to nurse instead except for in the car (where he knows I won't nurse him). He was 28 pounds at one point over the summer (and looking very healthy; he's got huge bones just like Mamma) and three weeks ago at WIC he was 24... today I'm certain he's lost at least another two pounds. His ribs are showing again, and I can see his pelvis. He's still got the tiny bit of tushie he gained, so I know he's not undernourished, but he hasn't gotten any taller (which is what I'd hoped would happen instead of him just losing the weight). Instead of getting taller, he had a huge "brain spurt" and gained a whole lot of new words, better grammar and clearer speech and then he lost the weight. *sigh*

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december sun ~ i have been meaning to say that i didn't forget about your request to see the pics of us ~ i've just been a bit swamped here and a bit lazy *sigh*

i hope to add some pics and share with everyone this weekend. i will also PM you the link so you don't lose out twice :LOL
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I had a huge post typed up last night and when I submitted it, MDC hiccuped and it's gone.

We are TTC as well, although I have apprehensions about having only 2 or 3 years between children, as I have 7 years between mine. For the most part, the 7 year gap has been heavenly...mostly my issues are internal for me...I worry that I've somehow turned Jacob's life upside down because we had another child, since he was the only for so long. I struggle with him not being a mamas boy anymore, but I suspect that has more to do with his age than having a little brother who demands a lot of his mom's time.
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I am so in awe of all you tandum nursers! We are certain that one child is enough for us. I cannot even imagine having another let alone tandum nursing. I am so glad that people like you wonderful momma's are having more children b/c it gives me hope for the next generation
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these are my sentiments as well. i don't think kathrynn would share me w/ another baby w/o going bonko. :LOL


dd is not gaining any weight that i can tell these days. i want to weigh her to be sure, but it doesn't seem like it. still at approx 23#, where she has been for the last 9-10 months. yikes!! she has lengthened out, but i'm not sure how tall she is. she looks very healthy tho- she has plenty of flesh covering everything. what can i say? she is adorable naked. both dh and i are small people, so i don't imagine she will be a large person.

anyone have a learning tower? i really want one, and don't know if i can wait until xmas. she loves being at the sink these days.

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I wonder how Heather is doing?
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casina- i forgot to give you and your family extra hugs for being sick....
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i forgot to give you and your family extra hugs for being sick....
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Hi everyone!
Tandem nursing, well I can't comment on that!
It's nice to hear you all are doing well and it sounds like there may be some new babies in a year or 2 if all the TTC is successful!
Heather-- both of my kids were 10 days "late." I agree with *Mamajaza* in that induced births tend to be harder. However, as it is Friday; I hope whatever is going on is going well!
Scarlett's weight I am not sure about, but my guess is pretty close to 30 lbs. She is tall though, so she still doesn't look chunky.
She is great! Onery!! She gets into these moods were she loves to torment Revina. Her language is really developing and what a giggler!

I started shiatsu school last week and I am really enjoying it. We are still in transition, but we should be more settled in October.

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oh, lilmiss, it is always nice to hear from you

I am also thinking of Heather, and casina, I hope you and yours are feeling better.

Wondering how Xmas Eve is these days......

On the ttc note~ we are not trying, but not trying very hard not to either We plan to officially start trying in March... but we will see what happens, it may be sooner if we get some good financial news
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i have no idea how to do the quote thing soo i'm quoting brayg "I'm also a diaper wahm (new kid on the block). It's already keeping me busy and I haven't even opened my store up for business yet!"
brayg being a wahm is soo much work! i love having a focus but i also realize how much i love sitting and staring. something i haven't gotten a chance to do for awhile. doing something that makes me some of my own money has really taken away the powerless feeling i've had for awhile. it's hard to depend on someone else completely. i'd love to check out your dipes. do you have a snap press? i'm really craving to talk about wahm stuff with another wahm.
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I took ds to the dr last week for a strange rash (turned out to be a virus, no biggie) and he weighed 25-26 pounds. This is up from 22 at his 18 month visit. This is his biggest gain since he was 19# at his 6 month visit!

Does anyone else's dc freak out at the dr? Ds has screamed whenever the dr talks to him, touches him, and this time, walked in the room since about 12 months. Last week he kept saying, "open the door" while he was crying. I had to totally distract him to get him to stop crying even when no one was in the room with us. He wouldn't even nurse. I just feel bad because he seems so scared. He never does well with strangers but is usually fine if I'm around. He never gets vaxed or anything else painful there.

My gp (who I'm luke warm about BTW) always says annoying things like, "how does he do getting along with others?" and "can you leave him in the church nursery?" I always respond that he is not comfortable with strangers and I think that's pretty developmentally appropriate. I just wish she'd get a glimpse of his great personality. Certainly he's not the only young toddler who comes into her office and cries!

Does anyone else's dh or so refuse to change poopy dipes when they don't have to? Dh just begged me to change a poop, saying (as usual) that he is almost puking just smelling him. I find this so childish and annoying. When they are alone he changes them but then has to tell me how awful it was, etc. So annoying. He's a wonderful and attentive father and husband, just with the normal annoying issues!

Planning to ttc after the new year, although we've been a little careless lately! Deep down though, I don't want to get pg now, I'm not ready! But, I'm getting excited!

Lots to ramble about. Sorry.
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my ds went through a period of being really shy of any man, sometimes even dh. i was really worried about it but after some thinking and self honesty i realized deep down i was glad. i've been weary of men off and on since i was little. anyway after admitting it to myself, he suddenly stopped. it was very interresting. so maybe you aren't comfy with dr? my ds still likes our woman doctor better.
dh has probably changed 5 poops in almost 2 years. same stuff. 'it makes me want to puke' well, i was morning sick for 10 mnths, so not much simpathy here.
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What happened to Lilyka, I wonder?
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hey. hugs back to everyone!
having to deal with bodily movements just isn't that cool for most men. women have to deal with a monthly mess to remind us how animal we are. my dh will now change a diaper immediately since the necessity has overidden his ick factors, but there's no way i could have planned on that. if i had known he would come around, i would have more readily ec'd or cd. i find it archaic that we are using sposies (though ruby is naked much of the time). but then, we still have to buy a specific brand or it throws us off, and i'm glad for his help.

one more comment on the ttc. the nursing will change way before the new one comes. the invading child will alter your body so that the milk will diminish or essentially disappear. it shocked me when with clay, totally nursing, lost his milk in a week in the first trimester. thinking back i realize there is always some residual nutrition and i did panic. plus the breasts get sensitive. so sometimes weaning happens with women when a new pg occurs.

ruby is, no matter what, an utter delight for me. even when she is making me crazy. like today at the park, i spent most of my energy protecting the ice cold water bottles that she wanted to pour in the sand. she is forever dumping out everyone's drinks at all times, and my boys consider their cold water sacred and special and security. perhaps it is time to save for a water fountain in the home. on the up side, her pouring skills are unsurpassed. on the down side, she will drown your unsuspecting meal proceeding with other experiments with this goo and i go through gazillions of towels.

i don't know anything about how big she is. she does seem "skinnier" than ever (i've never had to worry about my kids being on the small side, it is the opposite, which is weird for me as well). i remember that for the boys, the age of two had little weight gain and lots of height, and that there was very little eating going on. however, ruby eats more than some adults right now, and that's with modern unfettered nursing. my oldest reed has eaten more than most adults since he was three.


leah, i'm glad you are assertively doing something about your sleep.

saritasmile, i make slings too though i'm not sure about selling them. i have sold some to friends here and there. really i'm just not good at selling myself in person. plus i like a well fitted pouch and that takes some getting to know you. i am gearing up to tear down and revitalize my sewing station and start making some crazy stuff to sell.....

lilmiss, i'm glad you checked in!

bethkm, my kids have varied responses to people, sensitivities that i have learned to trust, though it is not always convenient or practical. and this is an age where some kids have issues with strangers, esp i see baby girls will have issues with men.
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casina sometimes i feel weird about selling them. self doubt i guess. i know there are better sewers than me, how come they don't sell things...anyway i just have to remind myself that i can do it. shut out the negative thoughts. anyway if you want some tips for selling i'll gladly tell. (i hope this is okay to write...i'm still figuring out the rules)


i would love to tandem but i don't know if it will happen. dh has a heart attack everytime it gets mentioned. i would love for dc to be close in age but i don't see it happening. i see all these little tiny babies around and just remember that the time i get to spend w/ ds is so precious. but, i'm still baby crazy
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about strangers... my little girl will say HI! to virtually everyone, but if they reply the hello and lean in a little closer, she will immediately try to hide.I'm glad that she has this waryness, especially with men. My dad was here a while back, and it took haeven 5 days to allow him to hold her. My dad is really tall and "scary looking" so I can see why she was so careful.

Haeven now weighs 30 1/2 lbs, naked. The last time I weighed her she was the same with clothes on. She's getting lots of high fat breastmilk these days.

As to babies loosing weight... maybe it has to do with the temperture? If it's really hot out, it's much easier to loose weight, and not eat as much. They are probably fine.
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