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Old 07-05-2007, 04:29 PM - Thread Starter
 
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I read all these carseat threads and my head spins.So I'll add another thread to the pile.

Will you tell me what seat you would buy for my toddler.She is 2.5 and pushing 40lbs and 3 ft.I don't really have money to spend but I need a new seat for her.Considering her large size what seat would you get?

Thanks for any help!So many of you mamas seem to have such a better handle on this car seat biz.It just makes me dizzy.

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Regent.

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I would borrow the money if I needed to to get her into a Regent.. Its the best seat for her, it will last her a VERY long time, and its extremely safe Its pricey but well worth the money considering it will take her until shes 80 lb.
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If you have a car with high seat backs/headrests, an Cosco APEX might be an acceptable choice. The harness slots are decently high, it harnesses to 65 lbs. While the Regent is taller and does have a higher weight limit, and is a wonderful seat... the price point of the APEX might better suit your currrent needs.

Will the seat be outgrown sooner than the Regent? Yes. But there are new higher weight limit seats coming to the market all the time right now -- by the time she outgrows it there may be many other great options on the market.

However it does REQUIRE the higher seat backs.
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If you are really tight in the budget department AND you have headrests in your car, get a Cosco Apex. It's a combination booster with 17 inch straps that goes to 65 lbs and then converts to a belt positioning booster to 100 lbs. It costs between 100-130 depending on where you buy it)


If you can get some financial assistance, the Britax Regent is your best bet. 21 inch top straps and an 80 lbs weight limit
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Thanks for the replys!

How long does it take for a Britax to expire?Is it likely that it would expire before she reaches 80lbs?

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Britax says 6 years.
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Thanks!

So,that means she would be 8.5 yrs old when it expires.But if she reaches 8o lbs before that I'll still need another seat.Is it very likely that she would be 80 lbs before the age of 8?
Which brings up another question.How will(or did you,for the mamas with older kids) you decide when your child doesn't need a seat any more?

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A five point harness ALWAYS offers more protection for anyone than being in a three point seatbelt.
When she's ready for a booster is a matter of fit and maturity. Something you really have to decide -- for a booster to be a safe choice for the child the child has to understand that they must sit properly in the seatbelt (ie no leaning over to pick up a dropped toy or to play with a sibling, etc.

If you think your child may be ready to ride in a seatbelt without a booster, you need to analyze the following. With your child buckled into a seat belt only, answer the following questions:

1) Does your child sit all the way back against the auto seat? Specifically, is the entire length of his or her back against the seat?

2) With the child sitting so that his or her back is against the back of the seat, do the child's knees bend comfortably at the edge of the auto seat? (some people ask also if their feet rest on the floor because children will often "skooch" out of position to get their feet on the floor)

3) Does the shoulder belt cross your child's shoulder between the neck and arm? If higher, your child could suffer muscle or nerve damage to the neck during an accident. NEVER let a child put a shoulder belt under their arm or behind their back.

4) Is the lap belt as low as possible, touching the thighs? If the lap belt is crossing your child at the abdomen, there is a higher risk for injury to the internal organs during an accident. Physicians even refer to these types of abdominal injuries as "Seat Belt Syndrome."

5) Can your child stay seated like this for the whole trip?

If you answered "no" to any of these questions, your child needs to remain in a booster.
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Thanks!

So,that means she would be 8.5 yrs old when it expires.But if she reaches 8o lbs before that I'll still need another seat.Is it very likely that she would be 80 lbs before the age of 8?
Which brings up another question.How will(or did you,for the mamas with older kids) you decide when your child doesn't need a seat any more?
After the regent, you go to a booster. A child stays in a booster until they can fit correctly in a regular seat and seatbelt.

-Angela
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After the regent, you go to a booster. A child stays in a booster until they can fit correctly in a regular seat and seatbelt.

-Angela
Does age play into the equation for you?

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The Regent is the biggest harnessed carseat on the market. Once your dd outgrows it (and she'll likely outgrow it by height before weight), you move her to a belt positioning booster
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Does age play into the equation for you?
Nope. Age plays no factor in how the seatbelt fits.

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Does age play into the equation for you?
Absolutely not. Last I checked, there was no 'good' age to be decapitated by a seatbelt or thrown from a moving automobile.
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Nope. Age plays no factor in how the seatbelt fits.

-Angela
Yeh,that's what I always think but when trying to read up on seat safety there is all this info that just talks about age.Including the laws in my state.

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OUr law here, as I understand it, is 8 years old and 80 lbs as long. Says NOTHING about how the belt fits the kid.

I've just about played out all the research I can do and if I can convince my folks to loan us $600, we're going to buy Regents for both boys and let the upcoming baby ride in the Scenera until my oldest is done with the Regent. We've got an older van with no headrests on the back bench seat, so the Apex doesn't work for us, and we have no LATCH in the van either, so we can't use the Safeguard seat. And boy is my 6.5 yo going to be pissy when I tell him he's about to go back into a 5 point harness - he's been in a booster for almost 2 years now......
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OUr law here, as I understand it, is 8 years old and 80 lbs as long. Says NOTHING about how the belt fits the kid.
Yeh,where I live the law is just 8 yrs.There is no RF law or difference between carseat and booster.Just your kid has to be in a seat until 8.

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What about the Radian 80?Why is the Britax a better choice?

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Yep, I would go with a Regent, if possible, and if not (and you have headrests or high seat backs) an Apex. My son is 4.5, 43" and 40 lbs. and has one of each. When he outgrows these seats I'll feel comfortable with a booster-- I won't buy another Regent to put in his dad's car at 65 lbs., honestly. He's a tall, skinny kid, though, and if I had such a heavy 2.5 yr. old I would probably not go with the Apex, because she may hit 65 lbs. before it's safe to use a booster (which I think most people agree is around 6). When she outgrows the Regent (at 80 lbs!) it'll be time for a booster, which are inexpensive.
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What about the Radian 80?Why is the Britax a better choice?
The radian 80 has the same strap height as the radian 65. The regent has the highest straps on the market. Children almost always outgrow seats by height, not weight.

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Angela, the research I just did today shows the same strap height for the regent and the radian80 - 53 inches. Other than price and potentially latch issues with a vehicle that doesn't come equipped, I can't figure out why one is better than the other in this area.

The basics phsyics rules never change, but no 2 children fit the same way into a pair of jeans, there's no way to tell how they'll fit into a carseat either. If you can find a seat to test them out in, by all means do that before you make a purchase.
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No - the actual strap height on the regent is higher. Someone posted them a day or two ago, let me see if I can find them.

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Okay-

here's the info:

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Marathon/cousins have 17"-17.5" top strap slots (depending on how they are measured).

Radians (both 65 and 80) have 18" top strap slots and allow use with shoulders over strap slots under certain conditions.

Recaro Como/Signo will have 19" top strap slots.

Regent has 20" top strap slots.
from this thread:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...=693750&page=4

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The radian 80 has the same strap height as the radian 65. The regent has the highest straps on the market. Children almost always outgrow seats by height, not weight.

-Angela
Thanks!
I'm thinking maybe my daughter has a short torso because she is about to weigh out of the seat she's in but still has height room.

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Of course it depends on the seat too.

What seat is she in?

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Of course it depends on the seat too.

What seat is she in?

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She's in the Alpha Omega Elite and without using the top slot for the booster position she still has strap room.

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The basics phsyics rules never change, but no 2 children fit the same way into a pair of jeans, there's no way to tell how they'll fit into a carseat either. If you can find a seat to test them out in, by all means do that before you make a purchase.
Good point.

I would really like to try her in the seats but I don't know where to find these higher weight limit seats other than on line.

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With everyone chiming in to get a Regent I think it's important to point out how huge a seat it is. When it was the Husky we tried to fit it in our only vehicle and it would not fit. Before shelling out big bucks make sure it fits in your vehicle(s).

Kristina mom to A 1/12 J 11/05 D 4/08 and tiny dude in late April 2010
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Okay-

here's the info:



from this thread:
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-Angela
Thanks. Seems I was looking at the overall height limit for the child, not the actual strap height. I'm a bit dizzy from looking at so much in such a short time!!
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Try Craigslist or Freecycle. Post that you're looking to find someone willing to let you come see the seat in their car and let your child sit in it. I bet you'll be surprised - since it's not the "norm" to harness a larger child and buy these more expensive seats, I bet you'll find someone.

Or, call your CPS Tech locally and ask their advice for where you can find a seat In Person to look at and put your child in.

The Regent IS a big seat. Everything I've read about it says it's very large, and it's even mentioned several times in the overall product description, so it always makes me laugh when there's a negative review based solely on the size of the seat.
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