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DS is a little over two. He still nurses quite a bit at night. He got the stomach flu (given, a bad one...my DH had it also) last Thursday. He stopped vomiting during the day on Saturday. He has thrown up though, every early morning around 3/4 a.m.

I am fairly certain he just can't handle the breast milk or he is having some reflux issues (he had some as an infant) that were triggered by the intense early vomiting.

I was just going to wait it out but that seems cruel to him. Weaning him abruptly also seems cruel. He is fine during the day. He isn't eating much and I can see that he has lost a bit of weight. His energy level is pretty depleted also. He is not dehydrated though (DH is a doctor -- for grown ups).

I can't bear to go to the doctor b/c I just know they will say to wean him.

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Is he getting any probiotics? I don't know if they're appropriate, but it might be worth a try.
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My son had a similar bug and after a few days of vomiting even my bm it became the only thing he kept down. He had it for 2 weeks. The last week or so he would do the same thing... wake up at 3 am to puke and go back to bed. Hang in there mama! I definately wouldn't stop nursing.

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DON"T STOP NURSING!!!! The docs said it kept my little one off of an IV!!!! Mine was a pukey little guy until a few months ago - the stomach flu just made it worse - elevate him at night and have a bowl/towel handy! It will pass.

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the same thing happened to my niece. my sister told me the story. the md said the child was having a reation to dairy and said her breastmilk was dairy and that she should stop breastfeeding. her child also had a stomach flu and was vomiting for a week at that time. she weaned i would like to suggest to you what i wouldve suggested to her if i had a chance. keep nursing, but cut your diet down to a very select few foods. cut out all dairy, try to live on fruit, nuts, spinach, potatoes with marg not butter, hempseeds and hempmilk(u can get it at a health store) dried fruit... you get the gist. try to cut the allergens from your diet, or at least try cutting dairy and i think it will help. your milk probably is what is keeping him hydrated as a pp stated. but maybe ingesting dairy is just bad for us.

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I personally don't think this situation calls for an elimination diet. Of course, if you think it would help go for it, but since you aren't a cow... your milk is not dairy. Now is also a good time to offer popsicles and other frozen treats as they are easier to get down. I bet that 3 am vomit will stop within a week or so.

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I personally don't think this situation calls for an elimination diet. Of course, if you think it would help go for it, but since you aren't a cow... your milk is not dairy.

in case it wasn't clear from my post, i agree our milk is not dairy, so my supposition is that the reaction was from the dairy in the mother's diet, just to help them through the upset tummy time

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in case it wasn't clear from my post, i agree our milk is not dairy, so my supposition is that the reaction was from the dairy in the mother's diet, just to help them through the upset tummy time
Oh no, I got that!

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I can't believe that a doc would say to wean during a stomach flu! ALL the docs I've ever encountered -even the Anti Breasteeding UAV ones ALWAYS said that if the child is sick you offer breast milk!!! Offer him smaller ammounts during the day and allow his stomach time to heal itself. Let his body fight off this infection and take it's natural path.

Breastfeed MORE often druing the day, Breastfeed on demand, Popsicles, Pedialite if he'll drink it (not that it helps...but some kids like it) and slowly allow foods when he's ready. He's getting all he needs from you for now- let him get over the flu before you worry about what he's eating Hang in there!

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DS is a little over two. He still nurses quite a bit at night. He got the stomach flu (given, a bad one...my DH had it also) last Thursday. He stopped vomiting during the day on Saturday. He has thrown up though, every early morning around 3/4 a.m.

I am fairly certain he just can't handle the breast milk or he is having some reflux issues (he had some as an infant) that were triggered by the intense early vomiting.

I was just going to wait it out but that seems cruel to him. Weaning him abruptly also seems cruel. He is fine during the day. He isn't eating much and I can see that he has lost a bit of weight. His energy level is pretty depleted also. He is not dehydrated though (DH is a doctor -- for grown ups).

I can't bear to go to the doctor b/c I just know they will say to wean him.

Any suggestions?

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i don't think breastmilk is hurting him. with LOs, stomach viruses just linger sometimes. they can stop vomiting for a couple days, then vomit again out of the blue. DD does this every time she gets a stomach thing, and i always freak out--lol. then i remember she always does it!

trust me, you don't need to wean him

but if you think he might be extra sensitive to something in your diet right now, you could try eliminating it for the time being (e.g. dairy).

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Is it possible that because of the time of "morning" that he is nursing, that you have a much larger supply at that time, and it is too much volume for his sensitive tummy right now? Maybe make sure that he only nurses for a short time, and make sure it stays down before nursing some more. Just an idea

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We just went through the flu bug here and when my dd was 5 months old she got the flu for the first time. The doctor at the children's hospital emergency assured me that even in cases of poison they can't get all of their stomach's contents out.

As long as your nursing, your little one can't throw it all up so is getting the sugars and water needed. I also would recommend you just keep nursing through. You cutting out cow's milk (or whatever you think may be triggering it) won't hurt but I would bet it's the flu more than anything.

I know it sucks to go through so I hope you all heal ASAP! (I got it right after my dd did ~ stock up on your vitamins for her, you and your milk.)

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I found that when my LO had a yucky stomach bug that it helped him a lot more if I ate like I was sick too. Blander foods, more liquids, soups, crackers, rice, chicken....I made my milk much easier for his tummy to hold. Of course, I learned this the hard way, after being puke-free for almost 36 hours, he nursed and then threw it all back up on me...I had eaten salsa at lunchtime the previous day!!

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OP how's it going?

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Is it possible that because of the time of "morning" that he is nursing, that you have a much larger supply at that time, and it is too much volume for his sensitive tummy right now? Maybe make sure that he only nurses for a short time, and make sure it stays down before nursing some more. Just an idea
My thoughts exactly! BM is the best thing for him, but an upset tummy and sleepy nursing might mean he's getting overly full. I hope he's doing better!
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I know breastfeeding was the right thing for him. It was just so frustrating to have him nurse and immediately vomit it back up. The throwing up stopped...after seven days. Now it is coming out the other end, so we are still up all night. Now I am SO GLAD I am still nursing. He needs the hydration.

This is a bad, bad bug. DH is a doctor and never gets sick. He had is so bad he needed fluids in the hospital. My oldest son got it and is still sick. Three babysitters (I have two special needs kids, so have a lot of help), one mother of the babysitter and my step-father all got it.

I am just so over the whole thing.

Thanks again for the support!
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Sounds like what we had. You're in the home stretch!

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