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#31 of 48 Old 05-26-2008, 12:27 AM
 
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Let's see... I've been sexually active for 16 years, have never gotten pregnant accidentally (have had 1 surprise though), and have 2 children. I've used 6 different methods.

(The only "surprise" I have had, we knew full well what we were doing and it wasn't an "accident." We decided in the heat of the moment not to put in the diaphragm. We both made the decision that we weren't ready to *try* to conceive, but we were fine with a baby should one result. That result is DS.)

I've used:
Pill: Fine, but definite hormonal side effects, annoying at the time as I was in college and kept leaving them at home when I stayed at a friend's house/dorm, side effects got worse the longer I took them

Condoms: Fine, but annoying to put on and I hate the feel of them. I'm also allergic to nonoxynol-9 (as are many women) and many condoms are coated in the stuff.

Depo: HATED! Gained weight instantly and had sex with DH less than 2/month, which at about age 22 was very low for me and us; never did the depo shot again

Diaphragm: Loved. Used this for 3 years prior to conceiving DD and 2 1/2 years prior to DS. Found a spermicidal jelly special ordered from the UK to avoid the US ones that all had nonoxynol-9. However, I quickly discovered that I didn't need to use it all the time if I used good...

NFP/FAM: It has to be done properly, charting and temping, but my cycle has always been very very regular and pre-DD and nursing, it was really easy.

NFP/FAM with DIAPHRAGM: I used NFP plus diaphragm for 2 years very successfully. Fertile? Use diaphragm with spermicide. Not fertile? Have fun. Can't remember/lost track? Use diaphragm for the rest of the month. I never got back into it while nursing though, I found it very hard. So we went to diaphragm only.

IUD: Non-hormonal. It was not super comfortable the first couple days, I have to say. But not bad either. Like period cramps I'd say. And since then, it's been easy. I highly recommend it so far.

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We used condoms until my cycles came back, and then used NFP/FAM. We have been using it for almost two years now successfully (I am ultraparanoid and cautious though, and stick to the rules) and now we are trying to use it to get pregnant with #2.

I don't like the way hormonal birth control makes me feel though.
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Depo was absolutely horrible for me. I warn everyone to stay far away from it. It was all fine and good while I was on it but coming off it was hell. I had severe diziness, exhaustion, and bleeding galore. There were months where I would bleed for 2-3 weeks out of the whole month! This went on for over 6 mos. Then I found a webstite full of people with similar experiences. I've heard there is a class action lawsuit against the makers of depo provera because it causes significant bone loss.

I'm using NFP and the book "Taking Charge of Your Fertility" was very helpful in explaining it. I used it to get pregnant with DS2. It is a little trickier to interpret the signs while breastfeeding but the bottom line is to be careful if you are not sure whether you are ovulating or not.

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IDK, from personal experience (great point of reference, I know ) everyone I know that uses NFP has more than 4 children. Since we only want one child, it makes me a bit nervous! BUT, it did work to get us pregnant!

Part of my job is promoting safe sex. My sources and materials say that NFP is right up there with "pull and pray"...but I'm working with mainly poorly educated teens who probably wouldn't have the dedication to the program that other women would.
Saying NFP is like "Pull and Pray" is like saying disciplined financial planing is like putting your savings in a slot machine. In NO way shape or form does NFP say pull and pray is safe or effective (although true NFP does like prayer!). Your materials are WRONG and your sources are WRONG; if you are counseling based on them, you should consider further education from an actual source who is familiar with what NFP entails and how it works. Anything less is doing a disservice to the clients with whom you are now speaking.

As for the 4 children thing, how do you know those people were faithfully following the methods you don't understand and can't speak to knowledgeably? You can't know that they were following all of the rules before you make that judgment and science says that if they were, the likelihood of them having 4 accidental children is nearly null. I can also tell you that people using actual NFP are generally doing so for religious reasons (since NFP is the only acceptable means of postponing births in the Catholic Church), and most of them are having large families because they prefer large families. I know families in my parish with 3 and I know some with 8. I also know at least 10 women who got preggo on the Pill, patch, and assorted barrier methods - some of whom who did so numerous times. Chemicals and barriers aren't infallible and families can grow with the use of them, just as they can with irresponsible use of the rules of NFP.

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The only safe method is NFP/FAM.

All hormonal birth controls can have side effects, hurt you, or hurt your supply.
NFP/TCOYF (minus glycerin based lubes during fertile times if you are yeast prone) are the only safe methods that will not mess with your system or add chemicals to your body. OP, consider taking a class and learning about your body if it interests you.
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We have used NFP to conceive/avoiding conceiving for the last (almost) 6 years, including through breastfeeding. It can be difficult to interpret at times in that space between when your body knows you are fully breastfeeding and not to ovulate and when it starts to "wake up" and toy with the idea of ovulation, if that makes any sense. But it can be done with minimal effort out of your day once you know what to look for.

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i had a paraguard iud just for this reason and it worked really well, until i got pregnant w/dd.

just remember that 99.9% effective means your chances of getting pregnant are 1 in 1000. which would be great odds for winning the lotto

this time around we're going for the iud again and charting.

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I have a Mirena IUD. I decided that having progestin in my system for a limited amount of time (under 5 years, actually even less than that because it "runs out" before the expiration date) was better than having copper released into my system for 12. Just my personal thought. I've had no problems whatsoever with supply (I suppose it helps that I'm tandeming so the demand is out of control, lol!), just a little bit of breakthrough bleeding on occasion. Insertion was CAKE when I was 10wks pp - cramped mildly for about 15 minutes and that was that.
I used to use a diaphragm and LOVED it - yes, it kind of killed the moment, but I learned to sort of plan my evening around it and put it in before we went to bed. However, since I've had children I've developed a slightly prolapsed bladder (due to pushing my DD1 for 3+hrs) and am unable to use one any longer - they just don't fit/stay in well.
I also used NFP when trying to get pg with Emma. I think that if you are able to read your body's signs and can pay attention/track/chart everything, you'll be OK using NFP. However, we were using NFP to prevent when I got pg with Isobel (my periods had just came back and were irregular and I wasn't paying enough attention). My personal opinion is that it's fine if you are OK with pregnancy if it happens and are able to follow it religiously (I was not). If you absolutely don't want to get pg, don't want to abstain from sex, and are as spacey as I am, you'll want to use something a little more reliable. I totally agree - NFP and Pull-And-Pray are NOTHING like each other. There's a method to NFP, and P&P is just trusting fate. Not really reliable, IMHO.
(Though, that said, I know three people now who have gotten pg on the Mirena IUD and have had three healthy, full-term babies as a result).

As for BCP's, the ones that are mainly estrogen are the main ones to stay away from - that's what will impact your supply the most. The mini-pill will impact it slightly, but most women have a hard time with the mood and bleeding side effects.

Anyway, that's my 2cents or so.
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After you've nursed for a year, I wouldn't be surprised if your milk supply is more resilient than you might expect. I went on the regular pill when my daughter was a toddler and didn't notice any change in supply.

Now I have the Mirena IUD (but my daughter weaned before I got it so I can't speak to its effect on milk supply.)
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IDK, from personal experience (great point of reference, I know ) everyone I know that uses NFP has more than 4 children.
A lot of people who use NFP do so for religious reasons, and they actually want a larger family. On the other hand, you find a lot of people will say that they use the "rhythm method" or that they "tried nfp" and then they exclaim how it doesn't work because they wound up pregnant. Usually these people never actually learned how to do it correctly, and they aren't truly using NFP at all. If you want to do it successfully, then you have to take a course or read something like TCOYF cover-to-cover, and actually follow all the rules.

I'm Catholic and know lots of Catholic families who truly and carefully use NFP. They all have differing family sizes. The ones with one or two kids (like myself) are not ready for more. The ones with 6 or 8 kids, have *planned* each one of their children, and they had that many because they wanted a big family, not because NFP failed them.
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Paraguard IUD here...it's copper and does not contain any hormones, so completely safe while breastfeeding.

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A lot of people who use NFP do so for religious reasons, and they actually want a larger family. On the other hand, you find a lot of people will say that they use the "rhythm method" or that they "tried nfp" and then they exclaim how it doesn't work because they wound up pregnant. Usually these people never actually learned how to do it correctly, and they aren't truly using NFP at all. If you want to do it successfully, then you have to take a course or read something like TCOYF cover-to-cover, and actually follow all the rules.

I'm Catholic and know lots of Catholic families who truly and carefully use NFP. They all have differing family sizes. The ones with one or two kids (like myself) are not ready for more. The ones with 6 or 8 kids, have *planned* each one of their children, and they had that many because they wanted a big family, not because NFP failed them.
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This thread has just the info I was looking for tonight!
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bf and pull out and possitive thinking!!

hopefully it works!!

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expecting our miracle babies around 5.12.10- praying that baby B grows healthy and strong!
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condoms here. I'm crazy on hormonal BC (kinda crazy either way )
Ditto.

I tried the mini pill for a month when dd was about two months old and it did crazy things to me- like making me bleed 24/7. Now there's an effective form of birth control.

I refuse to use any sort of hormonal bc again.

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If you absolutely do not want another pregnancy now or ever NFP is not for you. I am very well informed, used it for many years, read the books - yada yada. One good thing is that the older your nursling is the safer the hormonal methods are. I am currently using Nuva ring and I love it, but my babe only nurses 2-4 times a day and I have seen no drop in milk supply. I started Alesse pill with my first at around 14 months and had no problems with my supply. Seeing as you have nursed longer than a year you are less likely to have supply issues - also if you DO have supply issues you can stop that kind and try something else.
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I started using regular birth control pills when DD was a year and still nursing quite frequently. I didn't notice any change in my milk supply.
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I've been completely satisfied with the minipill after the births of both my kids. Never did a thing to my supply, however my sister said hers tanked when she tried it.
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I had a Paragard IUD, and... ummm... it didn't work. Apparently IUD failures are very rare, though! I would recommend it, though I won't be relying on one after this... my DH is getting snipped when this baby is born.

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