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#1 of 11 Old 03-16-2009, 12:13 PM - Thread Starter
 
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I am in the midst of finding how to effectively treat my water in my new house. I am finding that when I do dishes, nearly all of my dishes dry w/ a residue on them...glasses look hazy and the like.

I've used the Biokleen, Dr. Bronner's, and the EArth Friendly products Lavender dish soap, and all seem to produce similar effects. I am also rinsing my dishes in water laden w/ white vinegar.

I am thinking that some of the residue will be alleviated by drying the dishes immediately (but I never have time to actually do that!). But what about water bottles and things that are harder to get inside of???

Any suggestions as to what I can do further?
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After more experimenting, I think I have found that the vinegar is creating the residue.

Any ideas why? Weird chemical reactions?
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I'm having the same issue, but I don't use vinegar and it's not all of my glasses. Some of my glasses look hazy and some don't. I use ecover tablets. Sometimes I use a natural rinse aid that's like jetdry, but usually I don't. I don't see a difference when I use it or not.

I hope someone knows the answer.

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I am hand washing my dishes.

It sounds like you are not.

I'm interested to know what people do, either way!
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For machine washing, I definitely see a difference between using vinegar as a rinse agent or not using it (instead of Jet Dry). Without it, my glasses come out noticeably hazy.

If you're handwashing them, what is your rinse method? Sounds like you're rinsing in standing water? Does the very first dish come out as cloudy as the very last one? I would honestly suspect redepositing from rinsing in soapy rinse water. If you take one of your clean, dry, hazy dishes and run it under hot water, what happens to the haze? Is it still there when it dries again? If you run your finger across it, do you disturb the haze, or is it truly dried on?

And I'll just point out something in favor of laziness... air dried dishes have less bacterial contamination than towel dried.

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I'm super into air drying out of sheer laziness

I have tried both standing and hot rinsing. The standing is when I use the vinegar, and yes, the first is as hazy as the last...but if I use standing hot water, alone, w/o vinegar, then there seems to be no issue.

The haze stays after hot water rinse and dried on, and it's nearly oily, but not entirely. It's unlike any other situation I've ever witnessed, honestly. This iron-y water (and how to handle/deal with it) has stumped me.

We are planning to treat the water, whether it be simply to get the iron out or more...as soon as we can get a concise idea of our problem/complaints.
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The haze stays after hot water rinse and dried on, and it's nearly oily, but not entirely. It's unlike any other situation I've ever witnessed, honestly. This iron-y water (and how to handle/deal with it) has stumped me.
That's exactly the kind of haze we were getting on our dishes in the dishwasher. It feels kind of greasy, it doesn't rinse off, etc. Very strange, because adding the vinegar rinse removed that haze completely.

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interesting..........
I'm into experimenting, honestly

I would, rather, like my water problem remedied, completely!
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there is a new solution to cloudy, hazy dishes that don't look clean after the dishwasher.  www.CitriClean.net

I promise it works!  Pays for itself because you add it with your detergent, but you use LESS detergent.

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