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#61 of 68 Old 06-08-2008, 11:13 PM
 
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i'm thinking weird thoughts....can i hook a bike trailer to a vespa? do i REALLY want to bike all over (not really it would kill me), should i take the bus (ha!) what can i DO to stay afloat?
Instead of a vespa (which I'm not really sure what it is, but assume it's a small, bikelike thing, don't laugh at my ignorance) , some people have posted about kits you add to a regular bike that make it run on gas, but get super great gas mileage. You can peddle, or if it gets too long or you get tired, switch to the motor. Then you could pull your bike trailer too. Just a thought
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Some companies are already taking iniative. DH's managing partner (of his local branch of a huge corporation) just made it company policy for everyone to work from home one day a week, to save on commuting costs and help the environment. I was so pleased. Maybe other companies will follow suit, and telecommuting will become the default for many jobs.
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No, the differences are much more profound country to country in Europe than they are in the US. MUCH! How about these figures (using today's conversion rate):

Germany: $45,000
Spain: $18,000
Poland: $1,200 (no, that's not a typo)
Turkey: $8,000

So, you can see that the the averages are HUGELY different from country to country, unlike in the US where a place like California might have 1.5 - 2 times the cost of living/income average of a place like Illinois. Nowhere in the US do you see the average income 30 times greater than another state. You can't compare "states" in the US to "countries" in Europe, obviously.

Thanks for the answers. Any chance there are #s on the cost of living for these places as well? or a site for the states w/ updated #s on cost of living?

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Instead of a vespa (which I'm not really sure what it is, but assume it's a small, bikelike thing, don't laugh at my ignorance) , some people have posted about kits you add to a regular bike that make it run on gas, but get super great gas mileage. You can peddle, or if it gets too long or you get tired, switch to the motor. Then you could pull your bike trailer too. Just a thought
its a brand of scooter. i was on the website just seeing if i could get a rudamentry price and dh said no fing way! although it SEEMS like a good idea for me to do a bike or scooter or something i would be scared sh1tless. i mean its a TINY little bike/scooter with my 2 precious children. and i am horrible with bikes...haven't ridden (nor do i own) a bike since i was a young teen or less. plus it gets HOT here...usually up to 100 every day for summer months (weird summer so far...). i would be afraid that even though a motor would keep us with a little breeze it wouldn't be enough to stay cool and we'd all get heat stroke. i know excuses excuses is why america still wnats its cars but a few days ago i walking across the street (havne't doen any walking for a long time) and a car almost hit us! i mean its the first time in FOREVER and already i was almost hit? jeeze!
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its a brand of scooter. i was on the website just seeing if i could get a rudamentry price and dh said no fing way! although it SEEMS like a good idea for me to do a bike or scooter or something i would be scared sh1tless. i mean its a TINY little bike/scooter with my 2 precious children. and i am horrible with bikes...haven't ridden (nor do i own) a bike since i was a young teen or less. plus it gets HOT here...usually up to 100 every day for summer months (weird summer so far...). i would be afraid that even though a motor would keep us with a little breeze it wouldn't be enough to stay cool and we'd all get heat stroke. i know excuses excuses is why america still wnats its cars but a few days ago i walking across the street (havne't doen any walking for a long time) and a car almost hit us! i mean its the first time in FOREVER and already i was almost hit? jeeze!
I totally understand your fear of bad drivers. I rode about 2 miles to the grocery store with my 2 yo in a trailer last week, and I was really worried when crossing the street. One car seemed really bothered about the time it took us to get across, and started going a millesecond after we cleared them. It really ticked me off.

Communities really need to start doing some planning to make things more bike/pedestrian safe. I guess one good thing about peak oil would be that there would be fewer cars out there to worry about when riding/walking.

As far as the heat, I hear you there too. We actually have extreme weather at both ends (super cold, super hot), but I thought maybe I could try to bike early in the morning before it gets too hot.
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We walked every place last summer and most days it was 90 plus DS rode in his stroller, we always carried water bottles and we got one of these it was a life saver http://www.shadeusa.com/misters.htm
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We walked every place last summer and most days it was 90 plus DS rode in his stroller, we always carried water bottles and we got one of these it was a life saver http://www.shadeusa.com/misters.htm
Those look very interesting. Thanks for the link.
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HI I read where someone asked about the income in Europe,etc. I saw an answer from someone else, but here is just my experience. We lived in the southwest of england. Quite expensive, more so than other parts of England as well. DH made the same as he does here in USA. We paid 9 bucks a gallon for gas, we only had one car. I didnt drive, I walked everywhere or took a bus, once a month to the town far away. Dh drove to and from work 5 miles each way 6 days a week, plus we did car booting on Sundays far off, so we drove a bit. Food was more expensive, actually everything was, and our rent was $900 a month for a 2 bedroom tiny flat compared to our $600 month mortage. Electricity was about the same as here, council taxed were OUTRAGOUS(we paid $2000 a year for our tiny flat) and everything else was wayyyyy up there on the scale. House prices are extremely expensive(compared to where we live here anyway) sooooooooo we fare better living here really. Ok, yes there is free healthcare, but its not really free people!! You pay NHS taxes for this healthcare~!! Plus, you pay tax on everything, you just dont see it!! It evens out. Finacially, we are better off here than we ever were in England. But that is just our experience. PLus we do not buy a lot of stuff, and we do not waste stuff, that is the European way. We have adopted those values, and continue them over here, in the good ol USA.

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