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I had to go back and find the post. I agree with each person doing as much as they can to lower their impact on the world, making the best environment possible within their homes. Also being the best parents we can be. However, I think its the "crunchier than thou" attitude that drives people away from trying a lot of things. Its always not what you are doing, but what you aren't. I take pride in doing my best. And yes occasionally I fall off the wagon on somethings. Since joining MDC I find myself doing the same thing...thinking "why aren't they recycling?" "why aren't they downsizing" "why are they being so consumeristic". Its being judgemental. Being judged for our decisions is also a core principal we at MDC try to bane. Be it long term breastfeeding, cloth diapering, homeschooling, whatever. So I think when someone admits OK I'm not doing great in this area but I am trying I think we should embrace that and move on. Or if someone says I just can't do that, but I'm doing all this other stuff we should also let it go and move on. Judging each other and setting a standard that many can't meet won't get us anywhere in the long run.
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I have a hard time with red clay lines in the toilet bowl so I confess to using Lime Away about twice a year.

I used to not be thrilled with how my floors would turn out but we invested in a shark steam cleaner. It is gross to see how black the clothes get but I know the floor is clean. I also use it on my stove, sinks, toilets. It has a window cleaner attachment that works really well. The other thing it is great for is removing dust from plants and tiny crevices. Just not the computer keyboard that will ruin the keyboard.
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However, I think its the "crunchier than thou" attitude that drives people away from trying a lot of things. Its always not what you are doing, but what you aren't. I take pride in doing my best. And yes occasionally I fall off the wagon on somethings.
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So I think when someone admits OK I'm not doing great in this area but I am trying I think we should embrace that and move on.
Woah, Nellie! I didn't think anyone was "judging" anyone else here. I thought we were talking about using natural cleaners successfully so that the reliance on chemicals can be lessened or eliminated.

With that being said, I have found that I base my judgments of a lot of mommas around here on their signatures, which show what they think of themselves and what they believe strongly in. So, *I* must confess that I was surprised and a little shocked when you and some of the other mommas here made your cleaning confessions. I had some preconceived notions about you, Mommaof3boz, since you called yourself a "simplicity lover" and have a "simple living momma blog". So I assumed that you didn't really want to use chemicals, you just felt you had to, so I wanted to help you (and others) feel more comfortable. Others did the same for me when I first started my natural living endeavors so I wanted to return the favor.

I would never be holier than thou about anything since my own life has been a journey through several different lifestyles and many, many changes. For example, I am currently working on alternatives to my bleach usage to I can eliminate it from my household since chlorine bleach doesn't fit into the lifestyle I'm working to create. I've been researching extensively on the Internet, reading books, and experimenting with natural alternatives to do this. I've been working hard on continually improving the quality of life in my home. With my posts in this thread, I was simply speaking up for something I feel very strongly about. I guess I kind of resent the implication of your post that I'm being judgmental and holier than thou.

Further, since Mothering Magazine was "Born in 1976 out of the need for the natural family community to learn about raising healthy children, Mothering was the birthplace of the natural family lifestyle," I expect (rightly or wrongly) that people who belong to this online community (so generously sponsored by the magazine) either practice or hope to practice or are working on practicing a natural family lifestyle. So while I can accept that you want to clean with harsh chemicals and wash your clothes with Tide and Downy, I am unable to "embrace it" as you would wish for it goes against my personal philosophy as well as the philosphy of the community Peggy O'Mara created.

We all fall off the bandwagon at some point. We are human beings on a journey to a better life. However, it would seem to be in the spirit of this community to do what we can to climb right back on, for the sake of our families and our children. Taking the road less traveled is a hell of a lot more work but the rewards at the end are far greater than most people can imagine.

If you want to lessen your use of chemicals, I'd love to help. If you don't, well, that's okay too. It's your home, your family, and you have to do what you think is best. However, I suspect you may be in the minority around here, so I'd expect some constructive criticism from time to time. And that, ultimately, is what I intended.

And now, after this obnoxiously lengthy diatribe (is that redundant?), I'm going to sit back and prepare to take a little constuctive criticism myself!
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I'm sorry to get up on my but I'm just a little . If the mommas here at MDC aren't on the bandwagon, who is? Someone has to lead the revolution and if it isn't the babywearing, CDing, APing, co-sleeping, BFing, amazing parents here, then who will?
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MommyErin I'm sure you didn't mean personal offense to anyone! I guess the "if the mommas here at MDC aren't on the bandwagon, who is?" comment and the little person hitting his head against the wall (whatever that icon is called )is what bugged me. It made it seem like you were saying why can't you people get your shit together and do it ALL right. I apparently misunderstood. I am one of the most simple living mommas you'd hope to meet. But at the point I started this thread I felt like all the homemade cleaners and "safe" detergents etc were making my life less simple. I fell off the "bandwagon" of cleaning products, not every other aspect of the ideas behind MDC.
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huh? Is that in response to this thread or was it posted in the wrong spot?
It is in response to this thread, as it is a quote from this thread. I thought what MommyErin wrote was very well said (regardless of little angry dudes banging their heads in frustration!). It's a good reminder to all of us, and I have thought of it many times since it was posted. I don't feel like it's judgemental at all, rather I find it very inspiring. That's why I quoted it. It is as relevant today as it was the day it was posted, and it is really, in my mind, the true answer to the OP. I was NAK'ing at the time, and couldn't peck out my response, so I used the icons.

We are so lucky to have this community of mamas to help each other along, give advice and encouragement, but also to react honestly to the ideas/confessions/what-have-you that we post here. This is a natural living discussion board, so of course people aren't going to be exceedingly supportive of someone who has decided to go back to using commercial products that are full of petrochemicals and toxic ingredients. I'm not sure if the intention of the OP was to really to ask for someone to make her feel better about that decision or to ask for help on how she could be more effective with natural cleaners. What is obvious is that there are a lot of caring knowledgeable mamas here who want to help each other, and who are willing to acknowledge, that yeah, it's hard sometimes, and sometimes we slip up/give in, but let's dust ya off and get you back up there on the wagon when that happens. We all want a livable planet for our children. It's going to take a lot of work on our part, and we will struggle, and we will need each other. There's a BIG difference between "simple" and "easy", and that difference may well lie in our commitment and our ability to ask for, and graciously receive, help from one another.

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I think MommyErin and Anamama you both have very valid responses. And both are right. I have to realize that I am still quite mainstream in many of my practices. When I term myself as simple living it is more in relation to the fact we live a quiet, simple life. We live on a farm in a old house, have no desire to have a Mcmansion, drive older cars with no desire for a new one, are content with our job situation no climbing the ladder, we love spending time just here at home with our kids. I do recycle, shop thrift/Goodwill, donate to charity all I can, minimize consumerism. But I will admit I fell off the wagon with the cleaning situation. And I will also admit I think in MY MIND they work better than the other things. I am going to take the info each of you gave me and try it again over time.
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And I will also admit I think in MY MIND they work better than the other things. I am going to take the info each of you gave me and try it again over time.
And that's why we are here -- we can help each other. Trust me, getting to where I am now hasn't been easy. The eye opener for me was talking with my son's new Autism specialist back in December. She told me that any little thing I can do to clean up DS home environment will help him since his wharped immune system can't fight off the toxic sh** as well as most people. She kind of berated me and rode me hard about some things and after having a meltdown and crying my eyes out to my dad on the phone, I realized she's probably right and I owe it to my DS and DD for that matter to do everything I can to make their world better regardless of how hard or inconvenient it is to me.

So, I spent the month of December detoxifying my home as much as possible. I threw out or gave away all my cleaning supplies, got new body care items, threw out all my scented candles (this one was TOUGH!) and got new laundry care items. Part of me still mourns the stuff I gave up despite knowing it's for the best. I know how tough the transition can be but I made up my mind that day in December to do it and do it I did. Weaning myself off chlorine bleach is just about the final step. Well, except for Drano. : And that's a matter of convincing DH to give it up. That's my next battle.

I liken my life these days to mortal combat -- I see myself fighting the autism beast with my bare hands one day at a time. My struggle to convert to a totally non-toxic natural home is just part of that battle.

So, Mommaof3boz, when you are ready to tackle the natural cleaning again, whenever that may be, feel free to post questions here or PM me and I will do whatever I can to help you. It's obvious that you care about your family -- that's why I expect you will eventually climb up on the bandwagon again. And the MDC mommas will be here to help.

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for the "pink stuff" in the shower, I use hydrogen peroxide in a spray bottle. sometimes I have to spray several times (I just check it every time I go into the bathroom, if it's still pink, I spray again.) we have hard water and we tend to get the pink stuff right around the drain. hth someone...
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This was a great thread to read. It gave me a lot of new ideas, especially for my tub, which drives me nuts. We're right at the beginning of our journey to simplify, but it's nice to have people who have tons more experience to give some guidance. Thanks!
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OK for all you folks who answered this post. I rid myself, again, of the nasties. Man how fast they came back. I replaced them with 7th generation and method cleaners. Even my dw soap and dish soap. I am still going to use up my laundry products ie Tide and Downy. Dh just came home from work with All detergent. It was free and we got four jugs! So I am frugal enough to use that up before switching to the other. I am interested in Shaklee after watching Oprah, but the whole order online thing I'm not sure about. I'm afraid I'd let myself run out and then have to go by Tide or something til arrived. IYKWIM. Anyway, I figure these products are better than the Clorox cleanup and other junk I was using. I know I'll fail again with vinegar and baking soda so this is better. Thanks for all your helpful info ladies.
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I use method window cleaner, all purpose spray, dish and hand soaps. I still am using Scrub Free shower cleaner and some horribly toxic toilet cleaner. I don't know if I'll ever get rid of the shower cleaner, but I will replace the toilet cleaner with something better when the container is empty. I also use All Free and Clear (actually using Costco's brand this month and I hate it, never buying it again) and Downy free liquid softener but I will be phasing the softener to only loads that go on the line. And I'm still using Sam's Club's dishwasher detergent, as I bought it i bulk and still have a month's worth left. When it's gone, and when my laundry soap is gone, I'll try method or 7 gen or similar. I still need something for the mop bucket though. I hate vinegar and have used Lysol up until last week when I ran out. Thinking about trying out biokleen.

Sounds like we're both trying and both doing better! It's always a process, evaluating what you are doing, see if you can do it better.

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Synthea-I have used the Method Good for Wood and it works very nice. I just bought the one for vinyl for the kitchen. I haven't tried it yet. I have used in the past the Method Shower & Tub and had good results. The toilet I just don't know about. I am in a cleaning mood so I better find out whats best and get to it
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OK for all you folks who answered this post. I rid myself, again, of the nasties. Man how fast they came back. I replaced them with 7th generation and method cleaners. Even my dw soap and dish soap. I am still going to use up my laundry products ie Tide and Downy. Dh just came home from work with All detergent. It was free and we got four jugs! So I am frugal enough to use that up before switching to the other. I am interested in Shaklee after watching Oprah, but the whole order online thing I'm not sure about. I'm afraid I'd let myself run out and then have to go by Tide or something til arrived. IYKWIM. Anyway, I figure these products are better than the Clorox cleanup and other junk I was using. I know I'll fail again with vinegar and baking soda so this is better. Thanks for all your helpful info ladies.
Good for you, mama!!! :

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OK for all you folks who answered this post. I rid myself, again, of the nasties. Man how fast they came back. I replaced them with 7th generation and method cleaners. <SNIP> Thanks for all your helpful info ladies.
Good for you, Melissa! (your name is Melissa, right?) Welcome back up on the bandwagon. Happy to have your company.

I really recommend the Ecover Toilet Cleaner, BTW. It rocks!
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Melissa it is. Yesterday I found two of those clorox throw away wand things and used those up to get rid of them in the toilet. I am going to a natural cleaner after this. I cleaned my whole house yesterday with my new toys and this house ROCKED. Almond in the living room, lemon in the kitchen, eucalyptus in the bathroom. Oh my goodness. I really liked the Method vinyl cleaner. I really like scents can you tell?? Has anyone used the Shaklee laundry soap and recycle friendly dryer sheets??
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I have a few suggestions that I don't think I've seen in the thread so far:

For nasty stuff, I have found that OxiClean powder works wonders as an abrasive cleanser. For that downstairs toilet that gets moldy, I could put OxiClean in the toilet bowl, scrub it a bit, then sprinkle more all around and leave it for 24 or 48 hours, then scrub even more and rinse it all away. OxiClean is mostly just peroxide and baking soda, but it holds its scrubbing powder more, doesn't dissolve away the same as baking soda.

Also, I agree that putting straight hydrogen peroxide in a spray bottle and spraying it at problem areas and letting it sit for a couple or few hours, then scrubbing away with a plastic scrub brush would work for most things, too.

Also, for that sticky moldy bath tub stuff (which we've never gotten), I would try straight tea tree oil, just drop 10 or 15 drops of tea tree oil right on the affected area, perhaps spread it around with your finger tips (I always use rubber gloves but that's just my preference) and let it sit for many hours, even 24 hours. Tea tree oil should kill anything, I would think. Then scrub it all away with baking soda, OxiClean, vinegary, hot water, plastic scrub brush, etc.

For mold on caulk in a bath tub or shower area, we figured out a pretty good solution in a rental house we lived in for 5 years. We would actually remove all the caulk using razer blades, scrapers, flat head screwdrivers, whatever, then do a really good clean (back then we used straight or diluted bleach, but now I'd go for a good vinegar/tea tree oil solution), let that dry and then recaulk.

You can do the same thing with moldy grout. Just remove it, make sure you get all the bad parts, using white vinegar to clean it all nice and strongly (vinegar dissolves some grout, from what I hear), and once dry, regrout (it looks pretty easy on those home improvement shows) and your bathroom or kitchen will look brand new again.
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MommyErin-

I used to use Drano like two days a week. For real. This is how we weaned ourselves off of it.

Step One A: Brush your hair AWAY from the sink. Brush hair throughly before showering/bathing.

Step One B: If possible, fit your drains with hair catching screens. These can be commonly found at any dollar/hardware store or Megalomart.

Step Two: If drain acts sluggish, pour a teakettle of boiling water down it.

Step Three: If drain still acts sluggish, pour baking soda, then vinegar down the drain. Let foam. Repeat as many times as you need to. Be patient. Follow with boiling water.

Step Four: If, after all of the above, the drain STILL acts sluggish, plunge. Yes, you can use a plunger on any drain.

Step Five: If your drains are completely stopped up- like standing water in the tub- go buy a small snake. These are not that expensive (much cheaper than a plumber) and they WORK. To find one, either look online or go to hardware store in a an area with a lot of older (80+ years) homes.

We had to stop using Drano because it ate holes in our old pipes. This was a blessing in disguise, tho', because researching the alternatives was one of the first steps on our path to natural living.

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Step One A: Brush your hair AWAY from the sink. Brush hair throughly before showering/bathing.
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We had to stop using Drano because it ate holes in our old pipes. This was a blessing in disguise, tho', because researching the alternatives was one of the first steps on our path to natural living.
Oh, Leta ... : ... I just broke down and used Drano the other day. I feel really stupid . But I'm going to print out your ideas and give them a whirl. Thanks for the great, succinct list. I had tried the BS and vinegar but I didn't have much luck with that. The shower drain in our Master Bath has a type of drain that you can't put a hair catcher on (the previous owners updated the bathroom and I don't think they were the brightest bulbs in the box). Anyway, I also just heard that if you use washing soda instead of baking soda in the drain, it has a little more "pop" and clears it well. So I have several new ideas to try.

You fall of the wagon, brush off your butt, and climb back on, right?

On an entirely different note, I got an idea from someone yesterday and I think I can wean my DH off the RoundUp weed killer -- I heard that spraying straight vinegar on weeds or grass you don't want will kill it just as well, if not better. I can't wait to try that one on the cracks in our driveway!!
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Please don't think I'm a nut but Simple Green sends me into a coughing fit everytime. Has this ever happened to you?
Same thing happens to me with that stuff and many other 'earth friendly' products I've tried.

For crayon on walls, I just discovered that a little sunflower oil on a cloth takes it off easily, even from the flat-ish paint in the hallway. I then use a second slightly damp cloth with natural glycerin soap rubbed into it and go back over the spots to remove the oil (so it doesn't stain). It worked perfectly- there's not a mark and some of it was black grease pencil that had been there for months (because I didn't know what to use)!

For laundry, I use borax powder in the hot wash and then vinegar in the rinse. The vinegar takes out the residue from the borax and the borax really brightens the clothes. In fact, whenever we receive used clothing from friends who use Tide, Downy, etc.. and then I wash them this way, I am amazed at how they all look new after they're washed! The vinegar makes the clothing soft too.

I don't use borax powder on baby clothes because of the possibility of there being a granule that the baby could eat (that would be disastrous So, for baby clothes, I dissolve borax powder in a jug and just use the water (which is boric acid at that point) in the wash and then vinegar as usual. Our clothes come out very clean and last a long time, I think. We usually recieve clothes that have gone through two children and we have put many on all three boys and still have enough for the next one to wear.

I haven't read this thread yet, so I'm going back to do so. I need some tips too!

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Maybe that's what I need - a scrub brush. I try to just use scrubby towels but it doesn't work very well. Can you reommend something stiff enough that won't ruin the surface of the tub?
I find that the stuff in that picture builds up very quickly with our natural oil soaps in our new town- must be the water- so I use a stiff nylon scrub pad and hot water; then I scrub until I'm tired and it comes off . If it's really stubborn, I make it wet, sprinkle borax powder on and let it sit for about an hour, then I have some scrubby pads from a paint store that are much more abrasive than the ones sold for kitchen use, and they work much better and faster. I don't use the most abrasive one though, because it's almost like sand paper in effect. I've been able to clean it off completely every time.

A word about 'clean:' my dh and I call what happens when commercial synthetics are used 'the appearance of clean' because we think the residue left is much more in the realm of filth than anything that came into the house on our shoes, hands and from our food, etc... Eight years ago, I had two breast tumours and opted to completely remove every toxin possible in my home (I lived alone so this was an easy task) instead of adding more through chemo, including every detergent, perfume, processed food product including anything that comes in a tin, bottle or bag, 'natural' or not. It took 4 months of eating completely raw, unprocessed food and using only (well) water to clean almost everything, and vinegar, baking soda, salt and borax for everthing else and lots of sleep for my body to heal itself. I switched to washing myself with water and boric acid, using citric acid (diluted and applied after a shower) for deodorant and removed every polluting product from the basement as well, including bleach. It saved my life; I have been cancer-free since, without 'treatment.'

Dh came on board somewhat reluctantly at first, but now neither of us can stand the smells of other people's houses and can't go to homes that are full of room sprays and synthetic cleaners. It is limiting, but so is cancer and certain death, so we choose this instead. On the other hand, our friends know this about us and either accomodate us by having outdoor dinners, coming to our home, or even some have switched since they've had children, which makes it easier too.

I just think that even if your house looks clean, if you're dying because of its pollution, it isn't. Just my opinion and personal experience for what it's worth...

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Oh dear, I just read through the thread and saw that there have been some sensitive issues brought up. Please don't take my post as judgemental; I was writing from my own experiences.

I do believe very much in removing the bad stuff though, because I have had to face death because of it, at a very young age. I was blessed to have received a recommendation from my dad to read Dr. Hulda Clark's books and I did and her research really helped me to understand what I needed to do and why. Removing the chemicals released my immune system from fighting their ill-effects so it could take care of the tumours, which it did.

I gave one of the books to a woman who was suffering from Crohn's severely, and she read it and said, "Well, that seems like too much work to me." I just feel sad that so many illnesses would be taken care of by our bodies if we didn't poison our home environment (knowingly or unknowingly). I hope that doesn't offend anyone.

Well, I've been absent for 8 months, and during that time, it turns out that I have completely transformed. You are all precious. Thank you for being here and sharing your lives. You are truly a gift. namaste.gif Jan. 23, 2012

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I just read through this thread since it got bumped. I love a good discussion. However, I frequently find myself hesitating to get involved in these discussions. Not becuz I know any of you and am really worried about offending. But I do perceive this place to frequently fall into the "I'm doing it better than you are" game aka "crunchier than thou". I do the best I can for me and my family. If I'm not doing something a certain way it's not necessarily because I don't know there's an alternative. Usually I DO know there's another way...it's just not my way. I wish I didn't feel that hesitancy and maybe one day I won't.

Sabrina , mom to 4 fab kids!

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