Why is Rice cereal SO BAD? - Mothering Forums

Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
#1 of 54 Old 08-25-2009, 11:28 AM - Thread Starter
 
fairymom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,110
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
We've just recently started ds on rice cereal- organic whole grain brown rice. I was going to wait till he was a bit older- he's 4 1/2 mnths but he's so ready to "eat" now.:

He loves it (even just mixed w/h2o) and doesn't spit it back out. We've noticed that when we give him it right before bed he goes down so much easier and sleeps more soundly- something we were having issues with. He still nurses to sleep the same amount of time, he just is less restless after falling asleep.

As you can see in my sig I am not a newbie here and I did start all my other dcs on rice cereal at about 4-5 mths (per dr's rec) and none of them have food issues and they all have varing body types now and then. But I'd never heard of rice cereal as being bad for babes till I read it here a few months ago.

So why is it bad? and what is your OP on should I stop and switch to whole (mashed) friuts and veggies till 9 months or older? I am not going to stop all together because it seems to be helping his sleep, he's so much happier and its only once a day. Oh he is BFed.

TIA
fairymom is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
#2 of 54 Old 08-25-2009, 11:46 AM
 
alegna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 42,826
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
First- all medical organizations say nothing but breastmilk (or its replacement) until 6 months now. So I would not be feeding ANYTHING else yet.

Second- is baby sitting unassisted? Lost all tongue thrust? Grabs food and puts it in their own mouth? Those are all readiness signs that I would want to see met before starting solids.

Third- when spoon feeding purees and baby cereals adults spoon faster than baby would put it in (obviously) This puts more food in than they are really ready for.

Fourth- solids shouldn't be used to answer hunger or fill the belly in the first year- that's what breastmilk (or its substitute) is for. At a year 75% of nutrition should still be breastmilk.

Fifth- what solids ARE for in the first year is introduction to new tastes and textures. Rice cereal tastes like little and has little texture.



-Angela
alegna is offline  
#3 of 54 Old 08-25-2009, 12:16 PM
 
Drummer's Wife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Land of Enchantment
Posts: 11,487
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What Angela said! I think for me a biggie the self-feeding aspect. Besides any of the downsides to rice cereal being a first food, it's nearly impossible for a 4.5 month old to spoon feed themself. That right there would tell me he's not ready -- and when he was, I would offer small pieces of whole foods.

ribboncesarean.gif cesareans happen.
Drummer's Wife is offline  
#4 of 54 Old 08-25-2009, 12:25 PM
 
GoestoShow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 627
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

.

GoestoShow is offline  
#5 of 54 Old 08-25-2009, 12:47 PM
 
CrunchyChristianMama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,618
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Babies guts don't seal until sometime around 4-6 months of age. So, until 6 months, no solid food should be introduced as it can lead to other health issues down the road.

Rice cereal (most) is fortified with inorganic iron. This iron is not easily absorbed (estimates are around 4%) and it blocks the absorption of iron and other nutrients from breastmilk.

Grains require amylase to be digested. The human body does not start producing amylase until 18-24 months. Therefore, any grains can be hard on their body to digest. Breastmilk does contain small amounts of amylase, but this is to aid the baby in digesting the milk, not additional food.

Grains are also coated in phytic acid because they are seeds that are meant to be consumed by animals, survive in their digestive tract, be pooped out, and then grow. Phytic acid is an anti-nutrient that is hard on the body and keeps it from being able to digest and absorb the nutrients in grains. Unless grains are properly soaked or sprouted, the phytic acid remains in place. Baby cereal is not properly soaked or sproated.

Before Gerber came to be, no one would have thought that feeding rice cereal would be a good idea. It came along with the marketing for formula. Substitutes for real nutrition (breastmilk or whole foods) are never as good.

Solid food in a baby that young is taking the place of breastmilk. Babies go through a growth spurt around this age and if their need for additional food is met with solid food instead of increased nursing, don't expect your supply to keep up with his growing and changing needs.

That's my 2 cents...
mom2happy likes this.

Elizabeth - Doing life with Scott partners.gif

SAHM to Evelyn - my crazy little Celiac (4) energy.gif Annabelle (2)  love.gif and Abraham (born 6/20) buddamomimg1.png
adoptionheart-1.gif  Follow our journey  mdcblog5.gif

CrunchyChristianMama is offline  
#6 of 54 Old 08-25-2009, 12:52 PM
 
Drummer's Wife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Land of Enchantment
Posts: 11,487
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
That is fascinating, Evie's Mama! I knew introducing grains wasn't a good idea until much later, but I didn't understand the science behind it. Thanks

ribboncesarean.gif cesareans happen.
Drummer's Wife is offline  
#7 of 54 Old 08-25-2009, 04:14 PM - Thread Starter
 
fairymom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,110
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thank you for your replies- Evie's mom that's the info i was looking for on rice cereal.

I will be switching to fruits and veggies then. and leaving grains and such out. I have not doubt my milk supply will be fine as well as my lo. I have bfed 5 other dc and had no difficulties till much later when they'd go on strikes. and yes I know he is ready i trust my experience and babe on this one.I was just wondering why exactly rice cereal and cereals in general were bad for los.

I am not asking to debate if he's ready for them or not- I'm experienced enough to know when babe is ready and have successfully started 5 other los at around the same age, some of which weren't and I stopped and waited awhile for and the others were fine. he's ready and will eat anything you give him- even whole foods- he'll take "bites" off soft foods and chew and swallow. this is ready. yes he can sit unassited, has lost the thrust reflex, and we wait for him to open between bites and he leans into it.

And thank you again.
fairymom is offline  
#8 of 54 Old 08-25-2009, 05:07 PM
 
racie0417's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 374
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Have you checked out www.wholesomebabyfood.com ? It has alot of great ideas for good first foods. We started my older son with avocado which is alot more nutritious then rice cereal. We waited on grains until 8 months (though we didn't start at all until 6 months).

Michelle, mama to spirited toddler Liam (August 20, 2007) and high needs baby Ben (April 6, 2009)
racie0417 is offline  
#9 of 54 Old 08-26-2009, 12:03 AM
 
caro113's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Reinholds, PA
Posts: 1,153
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
We gave our daughter some organic rice cereal at 9 months. I wasn't going to do it at all but everyone in the house was ill and it had probiotics in it .. she had a slight fever and a runny nose so I gave in to DP. She loves it. And honestly, I won't give her anything I won't try myself. We both tried it and honestly, if she doesn't finish it, I do.

Anyhow, she grabs it with her fingers and sucks it right off I do spoon it out for her because she does seem to like both options. But she tells me when she's ready for another spoonful. She will hit her tray (I'm not sure that "hit" is the best word but neither is "pat") or move her mouth forward, saying she is ready. If she doesn't want the spoonful she will either move her head away or not open her mouth.

Also, by the time we got the cereal, she was already trying solids. She could already pick them up by herself and put them in her mouth and eat them. She loves trying new foods. And I don't make the cereal an everyday thing. It's a once or twice a week thing. Maybe. But her rice milk? That she has everyday. She loves it. And it's nice and cold.

Me with my baby girl Maeleigh (Oct 08) and My (step) baby girl Whren (May 05) in Heaven with her mommy .. And introducing our little JuneBug (June 10) We heard the !!!
caro113 is offline  
#10 of 54 Old 08-26-2009, 03:25 AM
 
Italiamom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 2,414
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by racie0417 View Post
Have you checked out www.wholesomebabyfood.com ? It has alot of great ideas for good first foods.
Nothing to add to this thread, but what a great link :-) And some other really great information in here too!!

Wife to DH geek.gif, mom to DS (4/09), and DD (8/11)fly-by-nursing2.gif, and crafty and hardworking in my own right!  In my parenting journey I've  delayedvax.gif, signcirc1.gif, familybed2.gif, h20homebirth.gif, andcd.gif.  To each family their own!!

 

 

"There are words for people like me, but I don't think there are very many."

Italiamom is offline  
#11 of 54 Old 10-13-2009, 10:12 PM
 
Penny4Them's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Wake Forest, NC USA
Posts: 344
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drummer's Wife View Post
That right there would tell me he's not ready -- and when he was, I would offer small pieces of whole foods.
Hi, Why would you offer whole foods before rice cereal? ( I'm learning to prep for my 4 mo DS future with food

Penny

grouphug.gifPenny4them  
Blessed WAH wife and mama to my happy brood jumpers.gif Dd1(7/01) Dd2(10/02) Ds (6/09) CDing & ECing works! No Circ, Make it yourself or buy something Handmade! mdcblog5.gif 

Penny4Them is offline  
#12 of 54 Old 10-14-2009, 12:50 AM
 
alegna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 42,826
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Penny4Them View Post
Hi, Why would you offer whole foods before rice cereal? ( I'm learning to prep for my 4 mo DS future with food

Penny
It's really hard for babies to feed themselves rice cereal. AND food in the first year is for experimenting with taste and texture- since rice cereal has little of either, why bother?

-Angela
alegna is offline  
#13 of 54 Old 10-14-2009, 11:33 AM - Thread Starter
 
fairymom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,110
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Penny4Them View Post
Hi, Why would you offer whole foods before rice cereal? ( I'm learning to prep for my 4 mo DS future with food

Penny


This is the info I really liked when I posted this thread in the 1st place! Told me the WHY?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Evie's Mama View Post
Babies guts don't seal until sometime around 4-6 months of age. So, until 6 months, no solid food should be introduced as it can lead to other health issues down the road.

Rice cereal (most) is fortified with inorganic iron. This iron is not easily absorbed (estimates are around 4%) and it blocks the absorption of iron and other nutrients from breastmilk.

Grains require amylase to be digested. The human body does not start producing amylase until 18-24 months. Therefore, any grains can be hard on their body to digest. Breastmilk does contain small amounts of amylase, but this is to aid the baby in digesting the milk, not additional food.

Grains are also coated in phytic acid because they are seeds that are meant to be consumed by animals, survive in their digestive tract, be pooped out, and then grow. Phytic acid is an anti-nutrient that is hard on the body and keeps it from being able to digest and absorb the nutrients in grains. Unless grains are properly soaked or sprouted, the phytic acid remains in place. Baby cereal is not properly soaked or sproated.

Before Gerber came to be, no one would have thought that feeding rice cereal would be a good idea. It came along with the marketing for formula. Substitutes for real nutrition (breastmilk or whole foods) are never as good.

Solid food in a baby that young is taking the place of breastmilk. Babies go through a growth spurt around this age and if their need for additional food is met with solid food instead of increased nursing, don't expect your supply to keep up with his growing and changing needs.

That's my 2 cents...
fairymom is offline  
#14 of 54 Old 10-14-2009, 11:41 AM
 
Ruthla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 43,652
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Babies guts don't seal until sometime between 4 and 6 months of age, sometimes a little bit longer. This means that SOME babies are ready at 4 or 4.5 months old, as evidenced by the ability to sit unassisted, loss of the tongue thrust reflex, etc.

Ruth, single mommy to Leah, 19 (in Israel for another school year), Hannah, 18 (commuting to college), and Jack, 12(homeschooled)
Ruthla is offline  
#15 of 54 Old 10-14-2009, 05:07 PM
 
juliav's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 906
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
For what it's worth, dd (11mo.) and I both LOVE cream of rice and cream of wheat for breakfast. DD started eating solids at one week shy of 6 months. She started with avocado and banana and all that jazz for all the reasons already stated above. She can use a spoon on her own now (as long as I load it) and she regularly eats organic cream of brown rice. Sometimes with fruit in it sometimes with goat yogurt, sometimes plain.

All this to say that part of learning and experimenting with textures should include mushy bland stuff. I don't claim it should be the only food or substitute for BM but I don't think it needs to be completely avoided as a rule either.

juliav is offline  
#16 of 54 Old 10-14-2009, 06:15 PM
 
paulamc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 665
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evie's Mama View Post
Grains require amylase to be digested. The human body does not start producing amylase until 18-24 months. Therefore, any grains can be hard on their body to digest. Breastmilk does contain small amounts of amylase, but this is to aid the baby in digesting the milk, not additional food.

Grains are also coated in phytic acid because they are seeds that are meant to be consumed by animals, survive in their digestive tract, be pooped out, and then grow. Phytic acid is an anti-nutrient that is hard on the body and keeps it from being able to digest and absorb the nutrients in grains. Unless grains are properly soaked or sprouted, the phytic acid remains in place. Baby cereal is not properly soaked or sproated.
.

Evie's Mama - I'd like to read more about this. Could you let me know the source for the information on grains? Thanks!
paulamc is offline  
#17 of 54 Old 10-14-2009, 11:37 PM
 
CrunchyChristianMama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,618
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulamc View Post
Evie's Mama - I'd like to read more about this. Could you let me know the source for the information on grains? Thanks!
We're mostly Traditional Foodies, so a lot of my research comes from Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon and the Weston A. Price Foundation. Although I will put it out there right now that I DO NOT agree with a lot of what they say about feeding babies, I just agree with their research about food itself (which is where the info on grains comes from). For feeding babies, I prefer Real Food for Mother and Baby by Nina Planck.

Elizabeth - Doing life with Scott partners.gif

SAHM to Evelyn - my crazy little Celiac (4) energy.gif Annabelle (2)  love.gif and Abraham (born 6/20) buddamomimg1.png
adoptionheart-1.gif  Follow our journey  mdcblog5.gif

CrunchyChristianMama is offline  
#18 of 54 Old 10-15-2009, 03:07 PM
 
Penny4Them's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Wake Forest, NC USA
Posts: 344
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruthla View Post
Babies guts don't seal until sometime between 4 and 6 months of age, sometimes a little bit longer. This means that SOME babies are ready at 4 or 4.5 months old, as evidenced by the ability to sit unassisted, loss of the tongue thrust reflex, etc.
Hi, What do you mean by "seal"?

grouphug.gifPenny4them  
Blessed WAH wife and mama to my happy brood jumpers.gif Dd1(7/01) Dd2(10/02) Ds (6/09) CDing & ECing works! No Circ, Make it yourself or buy something Handmade! mdcblog5.gif 

Penny4Them is offline  
#19 of 54 Old 10-15-2009, 08:14 PM
 
paulamc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 665
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Penny4Them View Post
Hi, What do you mean by "seal"?
I have read about this on kellymom I believe. As I understand it the intestines "leak," until they are sealed, around 6 months. That is, bits of food matter that should not escape the intestines escape, and the body defends itself against what it perceives as a foreign body with an immune response. Thereafter, the body may continue to recognize that food as an allergen.
paulamc is offline  
#20 of 54 Old 01-25-2011, 05:59 AM
 
expat-mama's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: no where/now here: Persian Gulf
Posts: 1,476
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)


 

Quote:
Originally Posted by CrunchyChristianMama View Post

Babies guts don't seal until sometime around 4-6 months of age. So, until 6 months, no solid food should be introduced as it can lead to other health issues down the road.

Rice cereal (most) is fortified with inorganic iron. This iron is not easily absorbed (estimates are around 4%) and it blocks the absorption of iron and other nutrients from breastmilk.

Grains require amylase to be digested. The human body does not start producing amylase until 18-24 months. Therefore, any grains can be hard on their body to digest. Breastmilk does contain small amounts of amylase, but this is to aid the baby in digesting the milk, not additional food.

Grains are also coated in phytic acid because they are seeds that are meant to be consumed by animals, survive in their digestive tract, be pooped out, and then grow. Phytic acid is an anti-nutrient that is hard on the body and keeps it from being able to digest and absorb the nutrients in grains. Unless grains are properly soaked or sprouted, the phytic acid remains in place. Baby cereal is not properly soaked or sproated.

Before Gerber came to be, no one would have thought that feeding rice cereal would be a good idea. It came along with the marketing for formula. Substitutes for real nutrition (breastmilk or whole foods) are never as good.

Solid food in a baby that young is taking the place of breastmilk. Babies go through a growth spurt around this age and if their need for additional food is met with solid food instead of increased nursing, don't expect your supply to keep up with his growing and changing needs.

That's my 2 cents...

I'm waiting to introduce grains to my LO too. I have heard a lot of this info before and it makes sense to me, but I'm looking for some research that says this to show to my mom and MIL who are asking about it. Especially the part about not being able to properly digest grains until 18-24 months! Anyone know where to find info about this? I've actually found some doctors on the web saying quite the opposite- that rice cereal is quite easy for babies to digest, but I don't buy it.

 

Thanks!
 


Me dreads.gif 32, loving him fuzmalesling.gif33, more each day. Rad boy, jog.gif 7/12/10 & Cool gal baby.gif  4/28/13

I'm a biracial, atheist, humanist, pacifist, anarchist, bibliophile, and educator. Rainbow.gifgd.gifwinner.jpgnocirc.gif

expat-mama is offline  
#21 of 54 Old 01-25-2011, 07:05 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,262
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

Dr. Greene is the pediatrician behind a new campaign called "Get The White Out" (as in no more rice cereal for baby's first food). His website has a lot of great info on it.

 

http://www.drgreene.com/whiteout


bedsharing, knitting, toddler-nursing, nerdy, babywearing mama!

familybed1.gif  knit.gif toddler.gif  geek.gif  momsling.GIF

Knitting Mama is offline  
#22 of 54 Old 01-25-2011, 08:06 AM
 
germin8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 455
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)

I thought this was interesting.

 

Especially the parts that read:

  • "Furthermore, our naturopath said to not introduce cereals or grains until at least 9 months of age because a baby lacks the proper enzymes to digest them properly before that."
  • "delaying the introduction of food from six months to seven months increases nutrient absorption by 60% for life."

 

Me personally, I would rather my baby first eat living food than dead food.


Super Mom.  Super Wife.  Super Tired.
germin8 is offline  
#23 of 54 Old 01-25-2011, 10:14 AM
 
chattyprincess's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Toronto, ontario
Posts: 1,041
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

We to follow a more Weston price/sally fallon/traditional/whole food approach to feeding ourselves. Babies stomach at this age (enzyme/digestion wise) are more apt to digest fat and meats better/more readily then any type of grains. I do not follow the baby feeding advice simply because we have egg allergies throughout our family and we make sure they are not allergic before feeding those...

Plus really why give them foods that are just "empty" calories perse. I don't remember who else on the thread posted the long information regarding grains/traditional foods but exactly what she said!

chattyprincess is offline  
#24 of 54 Old 01-25-2011, 11:37 AM
MJB
 
MJB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 1,563
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

This recent thread was another example of how these discussions go on here with some good links.http://www.mothering.com/community/forum/thread/1291932/continue-with-just-mama-milk-or-add-some-food

MJB is offline  
#25 of 54 Old 01-25-2011, 12:13 PM
 
asraidevin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 166
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

I started my daughter on solids at 4 months and I regret it. NOt because she has allergy issues, which most people say now days can't be prevented by delaying foods. But becuase she didn't gain weight after starting on solids. I also weaned her at a year, which I regret becuase she gained even less after that. Breastmilk has all the nutrition needed for baby.


I was off to save the world, but I got distracted by something shiny.
asraidevin is offline  
#26 of 54 Old 01-26-2011, 07:19 AM
 
crystal_buffaloe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 820
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

I would say rice cereal is "so bad" for several reasons

  • because it is nutritionally empty -- the only vitamins it contains are ones it has been artificially fortified with, which we know aren't very bioavailable (readily absorbed) by babies. So it can fill up room in the baby's stomach, while essentially not offering many calories or nutrients.
  • I don't feed my baby anything I wouldn't eat myself, and there's no way I would voluntarily eat rice cereal mixed with water.
  • because I don't want my baby's first food to be a highly-processed food (usually produced via factory farming methods and/or marketed by a formula company).

 

 

 

  •  
cocoanib likes this.

  reading.gif, mama to Amelie (May 2010), early loss (October 2011), and James (September 2012) vbac.gif

crystal_buffaloe is offline  
#27 of 54 Old 01-26-2011, 08:11 AM
 
womenswisdom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: in my skin
Posts: 931
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)


Quote:
Originally Posted by MJB View Post

 

The AAP says you can start solids between 4-6 months. 


Actually, the AAP recommendation is 6 months, not 4-6 months.  Here is a press release from 2010 discussing the difference between the 4 month and 6 month mark in terms of susceptibility to infectious diseases.

asraidevin likes this.

Fledgling midwife on hiatus, Wife to B, mama to C (c/s ribboncesarean.gif 12/04) and S hbac.gif (12/07), angel3.gif m/c (3/12) and expecting another bean 6/13 stork-suprise.gif.

womenswisdom is offline  
#28 of 54 Old 01-26-2011, 01:31 PM
 
Hannah32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 454
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)


Quote:
Originally Posted by womenswisdom View Post



Quote:
Originally Posted by MJB View Post

 

The AAP says you can start solids between 4-6 months. 


Actually, the AAP recommendation is 6 months, not 4-6 months.  Here is a press release from 2010 discussing the difference between the 4 month and 6 month mark in terms of susceptibility to infectious diseases.



Yeah, six months is BEST, but four months is ACCEPTABLE, according to the AAP. I have the current edition of their health guide, which also says between 4 and 6 months to start solids. 

Hannah32 is offline  
#29 of 54 Old 01-26-2011, 02:18 PM
 
pregnant@40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 574
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

I found a link on the internet that mirrors sentiments expressed here, but also includes references (see first blog response):

http://www.yingerbaobao.com/baby-helth/which-infant-rice-cereal.html

 

I did a search through the PUBMED literature in order to determine the bioavailability of iron absorption via cereals, and didn't find a clear answer.

 

The AAP does recommend solids are started b/twn 4-6 months if a baby shows readiness (ex. can sit upright & has good head/neck control, interest in eating foods), but also states that the ideal time to start is at 6 months after exclusive breastfeeding; they also recommend continual breastfeeding of course, and that foods are started slowly (no more than one new food introduced per week). Instead of iron-fortified cereals, an alternative is meat puree since it has better heme iron absorption; eating one vitamin C rich food per day (ex. apple, orange juice) is also recommended eventually in order to increase the iron absorption.

 

Thanks for bringing up the topic, I now plan to start my baby on meat puree and fruits/veggies when it comes time for that. I was skeptical about rice cereal w/ my first, since it doesn't really look like food & is fortified (ie. iron added). Going straight to the healthy whole foods makes sense.

 

I have 2 friends each w/ a son who eventually was diagnosed w/ iron-deficiency anemia, one breastfed for 1.5 yrs and the other formula fed, and both today have behavioral disorders (ADHD). Both of them needed additional iron supplementation as toddlers. I know this is anecdotal, but it highlights to me the importance of iron for brain development.

pregnant@40 is offline  
#30 of 54 Old 01-26-2011, 02:24 PM
 
Hannah32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 454
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)

Meat puree is nasty. My baby wouldn't eat it. 

Hannah32 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Drag and Drop File Upload
Drag files here to attach!
Upload Progress: 0
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Mothering Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off