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#1 of 13 Old 05-17-2012, 02:54 PM - Thread Starter
 
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My 4 month old daughter has had a diaper rash on and off for 2 months.  A month ago we got into disposables (only the expensive 7th Gen or similar work) and it calmed WAY down.  It is bright red.  We stripped our diapers (HOT wash with Dawn), got my Father-in-law who we share a washer with to use free & clear and cleaned the washer thinking it may be his detergent residue, we stopped using Country Save and started with Charlie's, I pulled out the next size diapers that haven't been washed here, and it's still here!!  She gets lots of air time and we only use olive oil.  I'm at a loss.  We use Fuzzibuns mostly and some cotton prefolds.  It seems to get better when we use disposables, but I may be imagining things (?)

 

Maybe it's the cloth?  Maybe she can't wear it (OH NO!), have you experienced anything like this?  Maybe its something non-diaper related and only appears to be so (food allergy?) We exclusively BF. She does have light red splotches all over her torso as well...  

 

Sorry so much info but I need to sort this out, we desperately want to be back in cloth and have her well.

 

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looks to me like a yeast problem. my son (in cloth) had this for a while. i make sure to air him out for about 20-30 minutes a day (not all at once necessarily, but a few times a day he'll go diaper free for 10 minutes or so) , i use extra virgin coconut oil on his bum at every change (anti-bacterial/fungal etc.), i change him often (like every 2 hours) and i use fleece inserts to keep his skin separate from the wet cloth. he's been fine since i started doing all of that. his rash looked EXACTLY like your daughters'. the disposables are probably helping because they wick away moisture (unlike cloth). 

 

btw, i made the fleece inserts by cutting a big piece of regular old fleece into small rectangles that fit into his diaper. easy as pie.

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worth a try.  each time she gets that red I freak out and go back to disposables.  I will try to stick with the fleece liner plus coconut oil and more air time (she's nakie right now!)  do you worry about your diet at all, like limiting sugar?

 

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Did you do all the appropriate prewashing with Charlie's and use only Charlie's with all laundry? The fleece liner may bother her, have you tried some all cotton prefolds or something?
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Our rash didn't look as spotty as hers--just general redness--but adding vinegar to the diaper rinse once a week solved it.

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Yep. I agree that looks like yeast.

You can put a few drops of gse in a small squirt bottle of water and spray it on at diaper changes. Tea tree oil is also very effective.

Also, I was just reading the other day that vinegar in some environments can actually feed yeast. I can't remember the details, but you may want to look into it. If I remember when I'm at my computer I will look for it.

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It also sounds like you need to disinfect all your cloth diapers, once you've gotten the yeast rash under control, unless you get it out of the diapers it'll keep coming back. I've purchased most of my cloth used, before use I stripped with dawn, and used bleach and tea tree oil, followed by a few full hot wash cycles until I could see no suds. Since buying used I wasn't worried about warranties on the diapers, so I had no problem bleaching. I figure it's worth it to have diapers I can use and feel comfortable putting on my baby. I am not typically one to use bleach at all, but purchased it just for this purpose.

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Poor baby.  The other thing we found with yeast infections on our little one was that he often caught them from someone else in the household and they were cross-infecting each other.  Every time he had one, I'd do a household check for athlete's foot, jock itch, etc (until the baby currently cooking comes out its all boys here).  I'd also disinfect all the big guys' socks and underwear.  One time we had a particularly heinous outbreak (sadly, my husband is highly prone to fungal infections) and we used OTC yeast cream on everyone's feet including mine and baby's and on baby's bottom and powder in all shoes, all bedding disinfected, etc.  I hope yours doesn't come to this but if its an ongoing problem you might try some of these things.  Also check for thrush since both ends of baby may be infected.

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In our son's case, it turned out he was super-sensitive to most soaps and all baby wipes. Our pediatrician told us to first treat for yeast (using cheap athlete's foot cream, it's got the same ingredients as more expensive diaper rash products), and to use plain paper towels dampened with water, wipe gently, then be sure to gently dab his skin dry, also w/paper towels, and coat with purified lanolin (Lansinoh makes one) to keep the wetness in his diapers from getting through to his skin. You can put pre-dampened paper towels in a ziploc bag to bring with you when you go out - just as convenient as baby wipes.

 

We also changed to a very basic, unscented soap for bathing, and switched to showering him rather than bathing him in a tub, so that his exposure to soap was absolutely minimal while still getting him clean.

 

He was fine after that.

 

Also, put the diapers awaiting washing into a bucket containing a solution of vinegar and water, and use an oxygen bleach in the wash. Vinegar and bleach kill different things, so the two combined are a double-whammy to irritants, while sparing the little one's skin from harsh chemicals.

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All free and clear can cause problems, too.

I would nix the fuzzi bunz because I know people have problems with them. No fleece. Some babies cannot have that against their skin.

I would try regular cotton prefolds in a regular wrap like thirsties or swaddlebees. It is a pretty inexpensive way to go, as well.

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In our son's case, it turned out he was super-sensitive to most soaps and all baby wipes. Our pediatrician told us to first treat for yeast (using cheap athlete's foot cream, it's got the same ingredients as more expensive diaper rash products), and to use plain paper towels dampened with water, wipe gently, then be sure to gently dab his skin dry, also w/paper towels, and coat with purified lanolin (Lansinoh makes one) to keep the wetness in his diapers from getting through to his skin. You can put pre-dampened paper towels in a ziploc bag to bring with you when you go out - just as convenient as baby wipes.

 

We also changed to a very basic, unscented soap for bathing, and switched to showering him rather than bathing him in a tub, so that his exposure to soap was absolutely minimal while still getting him clean.

 

He was fine after that.

 

Also, put the diapers awaiting washing into a bucket containing a solution of vinegar and water, and use an oxygen bleach in the wash. Vinegar and bleach kill different things, so the two combined are a double-whammy to irritants, while sparing the little one's skin from harsh chemicals.

Not to make things more complicated but you have to be careful with lanolin as well.  My son and I are both allergic to it.  We developed horrible nipple/mouth/bottom problems that were misdiagnosed as yeast but turned out to be a lanolin allergy.  We use Triple Paste instead for bottom barrier protection and I'm still hunting for a good nipple cream (I'm also mildly allergic to olive oil).  

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looks to me like a yeast problem. my son (in cloth) had this for a while. i make sure to air him out for about 20-30 minutes a day (not all at once necessarily, but a few times a day he'll go diaper free for 10 minutes or so) , i use extra virgin coconut oil on his bum at every change (anti-bacterial/fungal etc.), i change him often (like every 2 hours) and i use fleece inserts to keep his skin separate from the wet cloth. he's been fine since i started doing all of that. his rash looked EXACTLY like your daughters'. the disposables are probably helping because they wick away moisture (unlike cloth). 

 

btw, i made the fleece inserts by cutting a big piece of regular old fleece into small rectangles that fit into his diaper. easy as pie.

 

Tanyato-  full 24hrs of trying this and it seems to be working!!  Thank you so much!  however the fleece liner really works, so much so that when she lies on her side at night any wetness comes out the side....  

 

Redness gone!  So happy.  Thank goodness for forums!


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You can find some great organic natural diaper rash creams on etsy.

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