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#1 of 33 Old 08-11-2004, 05:47 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Okay- my babe is 8mo old and it seems that no one here BF for longer than five minutes : so....... do babies need juice? I keep getting these horrified looks when we go out and someone (like MIL or SIL) ask me where is his juice. DH usually says something like "right here" and points to my breasts :LOL but I was wondering if there was any compelling reason to give it to DS. The only other drink he has had other than BM is water.

Instictively, I don't think that he needs sugar water anymore than he "needs" baby food at this age. Am I overreacting and should start giving him juice? He does eat some table food ( he has 7 teeth) that I mash up, but he doesn't eat solids with any regularity. He is BF the rest of the time.

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You are right, babies do not need juice, do any of us need juice?

Fresh fruit is far better than juice even 100% juice anyway.

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around here we call juice "training soda". it's all sugar, no fiber (even the 'no-sugar added kind--fructose is still sugar!). i agree with Eman'smom that a whole piece of fresh fruit is a better option, and the only juice that babies need is boobie juice. And there's no need to rush a baby into eating solids. they'll eat when they're ready to.

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THANK YOU! That is what I thought, as I do'nt drink juice for that reason. Boobie juice it is !
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Love that boobie juice...
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I totally agree with the other posters, but I thought I'd relate another tidbit...a friend of mine gave her son juice at an early age and said she really regretted it because after that, he would never drink plain water! Yikes...

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Just a word or two about food...
Introducing solids at around 6months is important. Your baby needs to start experimenting with textures. Some children will develop an adversion to textures if solids are delayed too long. I don't recall how long is too long, it's been ages since I last researched this issue.

It only needs to be an introduction to experiement, so boobie juice is still the main source of nutrition.

As for drinking juice, if you really want to give your baby juice and make it healthy, I would try a juicer. You can make your own fun flavors -- cantalope juice anyone? I myself need to invest in a juicer, I just don't have a place to put it.

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I just wanted to add that if a baby isn't showing signs of physical readiness at 6 months (teeth, sitting unassisted, mooching) there's no reason to start solids unless it's something that you want to do. My first started solids between 7 and 8 months and my second baby started around 7 months.

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EIGHT MONTHS AND NO JUICE?!?! You bad, bad mommy!

The woman down the road from us has had her baby on juice since 3 months. Now, at 9 months, the baby's has been getting Coke in a bottle for two or three months.

I think you're behind the times. :

(I hope you know I'm being totally and utterly facetious above!!)


In all honesty, I believe that at 8 months, all your baby needs is breastmilk and healthy table foods, if he/she is ready for it. I like the PP's description of juice as 'training soda.' That seems like an accurate name. Don't worry about the other people's thoughts. You're doing the right thing for your little one.

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My 2.5 year old has never even had juice. He eats plenty of fresh/canned/dried fruits though.

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I see no reason to give babies fruit juice. My 8mo dd has only had water and loves it. Today I took the already diluted applejuice that I was having and poured a sip into her water. She loved it even more which is why she won't be getting more for a long time! I'm so happy that she's thrilled when she sees that sippy cup.

Yesterday at a kid's b-day party my MIL asked if we had given dd cake yet. Yikes- no way!

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NO!! I deeply regret introducing it to dd at a young age, even if it was for constipation issues. It is now very hard to get her to drink plain water, at two years old :.
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Good grief! People are juice fanatics, aren't they? I got a LOT of weird looks when I used to tell people that my DD didn't drink juice (she had almost none for her whole first year, and then only very, very diluted juice). And I hesitate to give it to her now, too. She has a juice box once in a blue moon, and she gets juice at playgroup, but the only juice I really give her at home is orange juice. I know whole oranges would be better for her, but I give her calcium-fortified juice because she won't ever drink cow's milk and only occasionally agrees to eat yogurt and cheese (used to love them, now not so much). So I need to get calcium in her somehow.

"Training soda" is a great concept! Of course, most of my neighbors give their little ones soda, too, which has never (to my knowledge) crossed my DD's lips and won't for as long as I have anything to say about it.
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A little boy who shares a birthday with my DD has had cherry coke, juice and tea! Can you imagine? WHAT are his parents thinking? And the mother said, "Isn't that cute?"
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Source -- almost 2 yrs ago I read it in a pediatric article. Then it was brought up at a LLL meeting almost a yr after I first came across the article. And I do believe that Dr. Sears mentions it in The Baby Book or Family Nutrition, it could be any of his books really. Like I said it has been too long for me to remember exactly where.
I'll see if it comes to me over the next few days.
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My ds is 10.5 months old, and I give him 4 ozs of diluted (half juice/ half water) apple or prune juice every other day or so to help with constipation. He takes after mommy in that department. The rest of the time it's milk in the morning and evening and water the rest of the day. He likes his juice, but he's not addicted to it or anything. If he's staying regular, sometimes he won't get any juice all week. It's definately not something babies need. I just feel better about a little juice now and then rather than listen to him cry from pain when he has a BM.
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I agree with all the above posters. also, maybe you can quote the AAP when talking with whoever asks you where his juice is? I'm not a big fan of the AAP but in the mainstream world it can help to quote them, and they say breastmilk should be the main source of nutrition for the entire first year, adding solids somewhere between 6 to 12 months, but it doesn't mention any juice or water or additional liquids.
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No. IMO, whole food is better. Juice isn't that far from sugar water... My older ds is 3 yrs old, and we still rarely have juice (and then it's diluted). Especially if you're going to be doing extended breastfeeding, I don't think juice is great for teeth. (I believe I read in New Beginning that the acid and sugar in fruit juice can contribute to cavities in little one's teeth...)
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training soda...i love it

i regret giving ds juice so early, even though we heavily dilluted it. we left him with my inlaws so i could go to my bradley classes (he was 6mo.) and in the four hours we were gone, they gave him TWENTY FOUR OUNCES of juice. i thought i was going to have to bring him in for sugar testing, seriously.

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Just wanted to add to the convo that our doctor advised us to hold off on solids until dd was trying to grab food from us. He said the longer we held off, the better it would be for her future health and weight. She would chew on a biscuit once in awhile at about 7 mo...and started nibbling here and there at 8 mo old, and now won't eat if someone tries to feed her with a spoon.....She won't take a sippy sup, hates juice, and just eats everything with her fingers, including her fruit.

Babies do not have to eat solids any earlier than they show real interest. It's just a myth.
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Introducing solids at around 6months is important. Your baby needs to start experimenting with textures. Some children will develop an adversion to textures if solids are delayed too long. I don't recall how long is too long, it's been ages since I last researched this issue.
nak... not true though! I will be back with my research but actually the AAP now recommends waiting until 8 months. There is no reason to start solids at 6 months... it has even been linked to anemia in bf babies.

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I agree that juice is not necessary and not a good idea. Juice is linked to obesity and it's really just sugar-water (also love the "training soda" quote - very clever).

We have never done juice for dd (now 16 mos) and I don't plan to any time soon. She did once have a sip of orange juice at Grandma's house and she made a horrible face and didn't want any more!

Like another poster, I also have a friend who introduced juice early and now her dd won't drink water - hmm, wonder why?

As for constipation, why wouldn't just plain fruit (aside from bananas) work? Pears are wonderful for that. And, if not fruit, what about flax oil mixed with something?

Glad I am not alone on the no-juice kick. I also get the wierd looks and questions from folks who think dd ought to be guzzling juice. Ha! Those same people would be shocked to learn that not only am I not doing juice - I am still breastfeeding at 16 mos! Oh, the horrors - a no-juice, breastfeeding maniac is on the loose!
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Those same people would be shocked to learn that not only am I not doing juice - I am still breastfeeding at 16 mos! Oh, the horrors - a no-juice, breastfeeding maniac is on the loose!

:LOL I'll be right along with ya, sistah.

Thanks for all of y'all's support, and info. BTW, DS does get some solids, but just not "regularly". If he shows lots of interest, he gets some of what we are eating mashed up.
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My 11 month old has never had juice. Someone in my mom's group looked at me funny the other day when she asked me about juice and I told her he'd only ever had water and bm for liquids. I thought juice wasn't necessary...and you guys have confirmed it.

As for the constipation issue, I just nurse DS more, and that takes care of it (although he's never been clinically constipated).

Also, I really don't see that delaying solids until the baby is ready would make the baby have eating issues? We are animals that need to eat to survive....it wouldn't make sense that we wouldn't eat when we are ready to....that's just my $.02 though.
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My cousin gave his little girl juice pretty young. She's 2 now & it's all she wants. If you hand her a sippy cup of water she will take a couple sips, hand the glass back to you and *demand* juice.

I get weird looks from my family all the time because whenever I fill her cup I give her about 1/8 of a glass of juice & the rest water. IMHO it says a lot though that she won't hand the glass of mostly water back to you. She drinks it right down no prob! This has definitly reinforced the fact that DD will get nothing but water & bm until she's at least 1, then we may try adding in some regular milk and soy milk occasionally.

On a different note, I was given juice & all sorts of foods WAY too early. Not only have I always had allergy issues, but it's taken me SO long to learn to like water. I still struggle with this! Likewise I was raised in a home where they put sugar on everything, even non-sugar breakfast cereal. To this day I don't like the taste of cereal without sugar. You can bet that's a bad habit I WON'T be passing onto Emi. :

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Here is a link, kind of related, lol, on delaying solids. I know a PP said it was imperative to start at 6 months. If anyone else is interested do a search here, I had a really active thread about this a few weeks back that confirmed that I'm right to delay all non-bm drinks and foods for Stella.

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I've only been reading the second page, but I'll be doing the breastmilk/water thing as well, and then watering down the juice. Once on solids, liquids are needed for hydration. If a child will only drink juice, and then drink it whether or not he or she is thirsty, then you can't tell when he or she really needs the liquid. And what if you are somewhere where it's really important to be hydrated - like at the beach or on a hike - and there isn't any juice? THe ability to drink water is very important.

One idea as a treat is seltzer water. We bought a seltzer maker when I was a child, and I LOVED to make seltzer. Plus you can add a tiny bit of juice and, voila! Soda!

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Hi! New to this particular forum. Baby numero dos is due any day now, so I figured I'd start branching out here on MDC

Anyway, I love the "starter soda" phrase. I'll have to remember that.

I started offering Talia solids at six months, but she showed no interest in them until about 11 months and I didn't push. Just offered again once or twice a week to see if she was interested yet. As of 11 months, she would take very little solids - I don't remember what exactly, but it was only like one or two things. She ramped up very slowly - at 18 months she was still primarily bf. But, now she eats *everything*. She *loves* Indian food, veggies, meats. She was really slow about getting into fruit, but she's starting to like it now (at 2y5m.)

As for juice, I didn't offer her any until fairly recently. (I don't remember when exactly, but I think it was somewhere around 2 years.) We offered her water whenever she needed more fluid than bm could provide. And now she drinks almost entirely water. She only occasionally asks for juice. A 32 ounce bottle of apricot nector lasts us for weeks. And, I only buy "nector" type juices that have a significant amount of puree in them and thus have some nutritional value, albeit not as much as actual fruit. So, it is possible to have a child drink juice and not abuse it! But, I agree that it's not something to introduce until your child has a good habit for drinking water.

I don't try to deny her anything we're eating - I'm an ice cream fiend, and it's highly illogical for me to try to eat it in front of her without her trying it; Same for my husband's chocolate addiction. But, we both generally eat very well (especially when she's around to see it!) and, while she *knows* what she likes in the junk food catagory, we don't keep it around the house to offer very readily. It's only really a problem when we're at a party or restaurant and she *knows* there's chips up there on the table, Mama, don't even TRY to fool me by giving me crudite... Unfortunately, that makes us look bad - a casual observer at a diner doesn't know that I ordered veggies ala carte for her instead of the junk food from the kid's menu; They just see her mooching french fries off of someone else's plate. :
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another child here who doesn't drink juice...STILL...at 2.5. He's had it before, but on a very rare occasion (library story time they had juice boxes I let him have one). I don't buy it for him. He loves water, why would I ruin that? He eats plenty of fruit, I'd rather him have it whole, when he's getting all the good from it.
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I too believe in letting kids enjoy good water instead of getting a sweet tooth way too early.
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