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#1 of 14 Old 02-18-2007, 02:57 AM - Thread Starter
 
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Ds 9.5 m old on on his 5th ear infection....one of which required 3 antibiotics...and 3 shotsof antibiotics
His ped mentioned tubes, but also said we could do without if we dont mind antibiotics. I hate for ds to hurt...What can I do???
Its like trying to pick the lesses of 2 evils kwim. any advice???
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I've read recently that the tubes are often unnecessary, but it might be different with your DS since he has them a lot?

I haven't got any advice for you - I'm sorry your DS is in pain
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Have you seen a chiropractor that specializes in treating babies? I know that sounds odd, but if things are a little misaligned then the tubes won't drain correctly. I think that is what it was. Also you can apply some pressure, not too much, along the bottom of the ear following the jawline towards the chin, this helps drain the tubes also. You'll want to check with a chiro though for more specific info.
There are also homeopathic ear drops out there for the pain.
I hope he feels better soon.

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Poor boo. I'd probably try antibiotics and pain relief and chiropractic treatment to see if you can prevent a relapse. My nephew is on his second round of tubes at 2 years, and apparently those aren't always a cure-all. Another thought is that sometimes ear infections go along with food allergies, especially dairy. Might be worth eliminating dairy from your diet if you're nursing, and from whatever solids he might get to see if it helps. That can take a few weeks (like 3-5) to make a noticeable difference.
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I am a huge advocate for ear tubes. My son had tubes put in at 11 months and he is almost 2 now. We had 11 ear infections prior to the tubes. That meant a LOT of medicine. I hated pouring so many antibiotics down his throat. The tubes have been wonderful. I am not sure why so many people are against ear tubes. We've only had 3 infections in one year... a HUGE improvement. Much less medicine now, too. I know they are not for every child, but why not give them to your child if it is going to improve their pain and hearing?
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I would go for the tubes before I would go for continuous rounds of antibiotics. Our daughter has has fluid in her ears for months and we go back in March to see if it has finally drained or not. I think it has as her hearing and balance seem to be much much better and I don't see her wave her head no back and forth lots. Her fluid has gotten infected a few times and honestly I think that Wally's ear oil used regularly has taken care of infection just as good as when we've used the antibiotics twice. Wally's ear oil is a garlic/mullen oil with some other stuff in it. My problem is I could keep the infection away from the fluid but I could not get the fluid to drain from her ears. We did not try chiro though. We did do hylands homeo eardrops and I saw no help. I massaged her ears and behind them everytime I breastfed her and I don't know if that ever helped the fluid drain or not. I really think time is what really let her fluid drain, that and keeping infection away from the fluid. My daughter has shown very little pain problems from the fluid and infections so it was easier for us to do a wait and see approach. However, if when we go back in March she STILL has fluid in her ears, then it will have been 5 months we've been battling this and I think we will look at getting tubes in the ears. Her speech has been a little delayed and I think a lot of that has to do with the fluid and muffled hearing. I know most doctors would have probably already pushed for my daughter to get tubes, ours is pretty laid back and has been fine with us waiting as long as we are comfortable, but if for some reason the fluid still hasn't drained (although I think it has) we will look into tubes next. I have heard a lot more positive about tubes than negative.
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I'm going to 2nd the ear tubes but would recommend getting second opinions from specialists if you have that option. My lil brother was plaqued with ear infections very young as well and had tubes put in around 13mo. Once the tubes were in his communication skills made leaps and bounds - basically because he couldn't hear anything as his ears were so compacted. - Just some food for thought.

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Both my boys have tubes. AJ got his a year ago (2.75yo) after being on 6 abx for the same EI. When the dr did the surgery she told us his was one those cases that wouldn't have cleared w/out tubes b/c the 'fluid' in his ear was so thick. He's already lost one, but hasn't had any EIs since then. Before the tubes we had many EIs every cold season. Evan got his at 7.5 mos, he had reflux so it caused a lot of EIs. His ears have drained countless times in the past 18 mos so I know it was the best decision for him too. Now we just have to use ear drops for EIs instead of EIs. He still has both tubes (one was replaced when he had his adenoids out) and we're not sure how long the dr will let them stay, 2yrs is usually max, but his ears drain so often. Ilana has reflux too and hasn't had an infection that we know of, but has had fluid in her ears for 3? wks now that we are trying abx for now to see what happens.

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I would try cranio-sacral therapy before ear tubes. There are many small bones around the ear that can just be out of place for some people, especially babies. Cranio-sacral therapy is a very gently therapy that I have done with my child. In fact, when we lived in Florida our pediatrician had a cranio-sacral therapist on staff from time to time. Chronic ear infections are the number one reason I hear of people being referred to a trained CST.

www.upledger.com can give you more info about the therapy.
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I would try cranio-sacral therapy and chiropractic care before ear tubes or antibiotics. Have you or the doctors considered allergies as a cause for the fluid? I have a friend who's ds was having recurring ear infections. Turns out they occurred during an allergy flare-up. She was able to give him zyrtec when he had a flareup to prevent the ear infections. She always felt occassional zyrtec was better than constantly treating with antibiotics.
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i had tubes in my ears but they didn't stop post-tube-removal ear infections. my underlying cause was a dairy allergy.

Wally's oil ear drops, xylitol, probiotics, source naturals Wellness Earache are all in our arsenal for ear infections. plus we don't do dairy (though we do have dairy kefir). we do CST as well.

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Thanks for all of the info, Now I have more Info for you, and questions...
DS is on zantac for reflux
He has no other signs of allergies, eats yogurt often but shows no signs of allergies...wouldn't he have some other sign....especially GI upset if he ate a whole yogurt?
He is on zyrtec, so if it was allergy wouldn't that have helped
And when his infections were gone he still had thick fluid in his ears.
Where can I find about cst near me, is that a chiro??? none in phone book
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I would cut dairy just to see, you never know. I know several moms who say it's been a miracle w/ their kids ears. All of my kids have been/are dair/soy intolerant so that wasn't our problem as we knew it. If there is still fluid in the ears after each EI is gone (are they doing an tympanogram?), then you're probably looking at tubes more than if the fluid was leaving and coming back. Poor kid, he sounds like Evan! What's he on the zyrtec for? Evan was on that and singulair last spring and is on nasonex now.

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Where can I find about cst near me, is that a chiro??? none in phone book

If you visit www.upledger.com there is a "Find a Practitioner" page (look on the right on the home page). I typed in SC and found a long list of CSTs.
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