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Old 01-14-2008, 07:08 PM
 
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Cereals:
First was rice - I just ground wholegrain brown rice in a food mill till it was the consistency of uncooked cream of wheat then I cook it in water for about 10 minutes, I think I used a 1:2 cereal to water ratio, but I always made the cereal really thick. so you can play with that ratio.

Next we've done oatmeal - I just cooked old Fashioned oatmeal according to the dirrections - thick though.

I've ground both together for a mixed cereal
DD doesn't get cereal everyday though.

Mesh feeders & Spoons
I've used the sassy brand mesh feeders - it screws together and has a cover (I needed that for daycare)
We have those cheap disposable plastic spoons :They are pretty standard infant feeding spoons - shallow bowl, but again for daycare items that can be lost, broken or thrown away without lots of money lost are necessary for us. I think they are munchkin brand (20 per pack).
At home we have a couple silver baby spoons from Onidea - small shallow bowl. And DD like our regular table spoons to, but they are kind of heavy and she tend to drop them alot.

In the begining I think C got solid food every 3 or so days, sometimes only once a week, then around 7 months a little after she got regular "meals" at daycare only am snack and lunch, and only after her milk - they were fairly small 1-2 tablespoons.

As for nursing at the table, I often end up topless when C requests milk durring a solid meal, typically she gets a little fussy and when I go to get her out of her seat she's grabbing my shirt, so a little nurse and then she's back to the solids - other times she comes out, gets wiped down and nurse fopr a full nursing session. She is always nursed before a solids meal. Soemtimes she will sign for milk.

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Now for a question:
I always nurse DD before offering a solid meal or snack, but there are times when this is a very brief nursing - she is not interested, but she wants to eat solids. Like today at lunch I felt there wasn't a big nursing session, but she wanted her solids, I tried nursing 3 times before getting the solid foods.
DD is 8.5 months old, are we heading into a nursing strike, should I withhold solids till I know she has nursed enough? Or should I follow her lead, will it lead to an early weaning? If we are together, like on the weekends, DD typically nurses before a solids meal and after - should I be worried that she is pulling away from nursing a little?

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Loved seeing peoples' baby solids photos - here's one of DD eating some sweet potato fries and hummus (this was when I decided that a spoon - for things like hummus - might not be all bad....)
Interestingly, the few times I've given her food in a spoon now - a couple times with hummus and with goat milk yogurt - she was interested in the food, but totally refused to let me feed her (I thought I'd show her what the spoon was for). INstead she grabbed the spoon out of my hand and fed herself. Guess she's taken the self-feeding thing to heart!
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Hi, everyone!

I haven't had a chance to read through the most recent posts, but do have a question. I started offering food to Micah at about 6.5 mos, and though he hasn't ever actually ingested a lot, he has tasted, gummed, explored a lot of different foods. And, seemed to like most all of them! But, recently he has been refusing most foods -- even those which he seemed to LOVE before (pickles and broccoli, especially). He does have a select few he will still eat pears, corn on the cob, and occasionally melon (canteloupe, honeydew, watermelon). Most everything else ends up on the floor with not so much as a glance. Has anyone else dealt with this? Any thoughts?

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Unless it goes along with digestive discomforts or otherwise acting sick or unhappy, just go with it. He doesn't need food at this point at all. It's just for experimentation and exploration and play right now. If he's still happy, if he's still growing and nursing and thriving, don't worry about it. Just keep offering him the chance when you both feel like it, and keep a plastic mat on the floor (or have a German Shepherd Dog, like me)
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Okay- I'm back looking for more support from likeminded mamas. Out of all of my *crazy* parenting practices, this is the one that gets the most flack! So I guess I'm still not used to having to defend myself against the mainstream...

So in addition to the nutritionist and the EI worker that DS sees, we recently had to go to a preemie clinic. Everyone's really pushing us to introduce purees, saying that he won't be able to chew and manage the whole foods and that if we don't get him eating, we'll miss this window of opportunity and have trouble later on...

Well, DH went ahead and gave him some pureed green beans. he put them on the spoon and gave it to DS. DS took the spoon (an adult spoon!) and fed himself the green beans- loved it, and kept reaching for the spoon for more! He's definitely not as interested in food when we give him whole green beans or anything else for that matter... So now I'm perplexed since he even seemed to like the purees better! Any input? Thanks!
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Hello. I just stumbled across this thread while looking around. DH and I are doing BLW with DS. He's a little over six months so we've just started. I'm glad to find this as it seems that most pp think we're weirdos. lol. I do have a question - if this is covered somewhere else feel free to point me in the right direction. Is anyone doing the iron supplements with your LO's. I've read that this can interfere with natural iron absorption. And I've read that the supply of iron received from mom runs out around 6 months? So I'm wondering if I should start giving him the drops. He's not getting it in his diet like he would be if we were doing iron-fortified cereal or something like that. Any ideas or thoughts on this? Thanks.
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I don't do iron supplementation or worry about it. I do occasionally check to make sure he is getting dietary sources of iron (leafy greens, cooking in cast iron, etc). But really, I just don't worry about it.
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Speaking of iron...
We don't do supplemental drops either, and I know my ped (and people here) says not to worry about it at all. But since I'm pretty low in iron myself, I'd like to at least make sure DD is getting some natural iron in the food she eats.
What are some good sources of that? Red meat, I assume, though I haven't given her meat yet, mostly since without teeth it seemed like it might be trickier for her to chew. Spinach? I also haven't tried that yet. How do you tend to serve it, if you give it to your LO? Any other good natural sources of iron that lend themselves well to BLW?

DD is definitely getting into eating (as opposed to tasting/experimenting) now. We started giving her some peas and O's cereal recently so she could practice her pretty successful pincer grip, and since she seems to LOVE picking up tiny objects. They're her new favorites. She'd rather have them any day over banana, avocado, etc. She still enjoys sweet potato fries, though (one of my favorites to make, since i love them too), and is a HUGE hummus fan. I finally decided a spoon was OK on that one, after a couple evenings of her making a giant mess finger-feeding herself, but she definitely won't let *me* feed her the spoon. Instead, I put some hummus on, and then she takes the spoon from me. I guess I created a successful self-feeder .
I've tried yogurt a few times now, but she just makes a "yuck" face, so I guess we'll hold off for a bit. She doesn't seem too interested in bits of cheese, either. My generally BLW-supportive doctor told me at this last visit to only do fruits and vegetables until she's 10 months old, but that seems a little ridiculous to me, especially since we have no allergies in the family. Obviously we've already given her wheat (in the form of the O's), and some more complex things in the hummus and guacamole, and I gave her an egg yolk once that she liked. But I've been a little hesitant to just give her whatever DH and I are eating (also for the practical reason that we usually eat after she goes to bed) or more "adult" things like chili or stew. Should I just dive in? I'm pretty sure she'd love toast too - but is 7 months little for getting tough-to-digest whole grains?
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Once I was sure Naked Baby was consuming food, not just playing with it, so that he no longer had a "virgin" gut (that is, his digestive tract shut down some to protect itself from foreign proteins), I pretty much just let him have whatever. I did do one major allergen at a time, but, at the moment, two of his favorite foods are oranges and bread.

Any leafy dark green is going to have good, easily absorbed iron in it. Spinach, kale, chard, etc. We cook with a lot of those foods anyway, adding them to spaghetti sauce, casseroles, stirfries, etc., which is how Naked Baby usually gets them. If you want to do meat, either BIG chunks (too big for them to swallow), or little pieces, like ground meat, are good choices pre-molars. You can also cook with cast iron, as, especially with acidic foods, that adds iron to what you cook in it. Lentils and beans also have some iron, easily digestible, and NB for one LOVES black beans, and hummus.
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I;m glad this is here too. DS just turned 6 months and doesn't seem too interested in food. We're supposed to go to 6 month WBV this week and I am concerned the pediatrician might ask if/why isn't he on solids. Did any of you have late starters when it came to eating? My DD loved and still loves all food from 5 or 6 months (adjusted age) on and DS seems quite different! He makes chewing motions with his mouth but I tried banana twice and he spit it out and made a face. Should I keep trying? Wait longer? Sorry for all the questions. I think I did things wrong with DD and want to get it right!
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Thanks for posting the links again - lots of good info. For those of you leaving parts of peels (bananas, avocado etc) aren't you worried about pesticides? Our ped freaked out yesterday when we told her we were doing BLW. In fact, she had no idea what it is! Ugh! We're loking for a non trad care giver as we just moved to the area. We cannot afford organic right now. Where are you geting the iron from for your 6 mos and up babies? I have tended to be anemic since I was a teen and when the ped said we needed to do cereals for DS iron, I kinda got concerned that I was not doing right by my baby by not doing some crereals. First time motherhood is so fraught with guilt and uncertainty !!
Iron can come from black beans or other iron rich foods. Every baby cereal I pulled off the shelf at the store by my house had palm oil in it. Palm oil is GROSS. And the organic stuff, had organic palm oil in it. But really, an EBF baby should have enough iron for at least the first 6 months and possibly as long as 12 months. Iron stores don't dissappear over night, they drop off gradually. DD likes beans, green veggies (raw & sliced or steamed to mush), lentils and ground meat, all rich in iron.

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Dumb question here, why would iron go away at 6 months? Is this from tests of breastmilk after 6months? And why don't other nutrients stop then?
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Dumb question here, why would iron go away at 6 months? Is this from tests of breastmilk after 6months? And why don't other nutrients stop then?
It's not that the amount in BM changes- that is consistently low (but a very easily absorbed form)
Rather, while in the womb babies store up iron in their system. After they are born they gradually use up those stores. The general trend is for breastfed babies to be ok for the first 6 months w/o supplementation while being EBF. Then if parents introduce solids (resulting in lower percentage of intake from BM) but not any particularly high in iron, then by 9-12 months their iron levels may be low after they run through their stores.

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Just wondering why my DS would suddenly become a "picky" eater? He has been self-feeding for a few months now, and at first, was so excited to try anything I put down in front of him. For the past week or two, though, he will put veggies into his mouth and then open his mouth and let it fall back out, and not pick that particular thing back up again.

Give him a handful of Cheerios, though, and he goes to town. He also loved beans at first, and now won't touch them either. I realized he is testing things and learning that he can have a say in what goes into his body, but I didn't realize that it started this early!

Not that I am worried about what he is eating, as he still nurses like a mad man.

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My dd is 8 months and has been spoon fed homemade purees at daycare (she's too nervous about choking) only for about a month and a half. After getting the answers to my questions about self feeding here she is eating with us every evening and all weekend.
Here are my questions:
It seems like she wants to be spoon fed. She waits for a minute, feeds herself a few handfuls then arches her back and cries.
If I feed her on my finger or with my spoon she is okay.
Any one experience this?
What to do?
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I don't do iron supplementation or worry about it. I do occasionally check to make sure he is getting dietary sources of iron (leafy greens, cooking in cast iron, etc). But really, I just don't worry about it.
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Any leafy dark green is going to have good, easily absorbed iron in it. Spinach, kale, chard, etc. We cook with a lot of those foods anyway, adding them to spaghetti sauce, casseroles, stirfries, etc., which is how Naked Baby usually gets them. If you want to do meat, either BIG chunks (too big for them to swallow), or little pieces, like ground meat, are good choices pre-molars. You can also cook with cast iron, as, especially with acidic foods, that adds iron to what you cook in it. Lentils and beans also have some iron, easily digestible, and NB for one LOVES black beans, and hummus.
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Iron can come from black beans or other iron rich foods. Every baby cereal I pulled off the shelf at the store by my house had palm oil in it. Palm oil is GROSS. And the organic stuff, had organic palm oil in it. But really, an EBF baby should have enough iron for at least the first 6 months and possibly as long as 12 months. Iron stores don't dissappear over night, they drop off gradually. DD likes beans, green veggies (raw & sliced or steamed to mush), lentils and ground meat, all rich in iron.
Thanks for all of the iron ideas. I think I may try some black beans for now. I have them in the house so that works. I'll try to find ways to incorporate more greens into me and DH's diet (which we should be doing anyways) so that DS can get that as he eats what we do.

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My dd is 8 months and has been spoon fed homemade purees at daycare (she's too nervous about choking) only for about a month and a half. After getting the answers to my questions about self feeding here she is eating with us every evening and all weekend.
Here are my questions:
It seems like she wants to be spoon fed. She waits for a minute, feeds herself a few handfuls then arches her back and cries.
If I feed her on my finger or with my spoon she is okay.
Any one experience this?
What to do?
I wonder if this is because she's spoon fed at daycare? I don't know though...just a thought. And as to what to do. That can be hard because if you like your daycare it may not be worth it to try to be pushy about something your provider is not comfortable with. I don't know. Hopefully someone else has some experience with this and better answers for you. Good luck though.

An update on us - I'm getting braver with this. I'm still really nervous because this is all so incredibly new to me. I would've never guessed I would go down a road like this. But here I am. So far Ayden has had banana, avacado, dairy-free pancakes, french fries (not a good choice I know - it was the only thing safe for him when we went out to eat the other day), broccoli, and pork. Yes, last night he tried pork for the first time and loved it. He didn't swallow any of it. At this point I don't think he's swallowing much of anything. But he just sat there with the pork hanging out of his mouth just sucking the crap out of it. So I take it that he liked it. Plus I think it must have felt good on his gums (he's currently teething). I think we may try some black beans today.
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Baby girl is quickly turning into a vacuum cleaner. Today she helped me eat my oatmeal during breakfast and then during lunch she made two green beans disappear. I keep looking for them under the furniture but I think she actually ate them!!

She's definitely moving from tasting to eating and then coming back for more
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Well, I know that I can probably vent here. My mom took us all out to lunch today. I gave DS a green bean and of course my mom had to repeat over and over about how he was going to choke. And then of course he did gag on it (he's very new to eating), which only fueled my mother's fire. And then of course DH chimed in with how he was getting nervous and he thinks Ayden is all done with the green bean. That's another issue. He says he supports my decision and BLW makes sense to him, but he has yet to read anything to try to understand what it's about or to let me really explain it to him. So after my mom said that A was going to choke for about the hundredth time I bit her head off and told her that "if he chokes and dies I guess it will be my fault then." A horrible thing to say I know. I was so irritated and it's not like this is the first time she's seen it or the first time that I've tried to explain it to her. Anyways, I ended up deciding to just let him have something later and stopped with the feeding for that meal just because I didn't want to hear it the entire time I was trying to eat. But ugh - I wanted to rip my hair out! Okay - done with that vent. That felt good.

Anyways, I've started a BLW blog. It's nothing special. I just thought it would be neat to chart our progress for anyone that's currently BLW or interested in trying it in the future. I certainly don't claim to be any sort of expert. I'm learning along with everyone else and that's what the blog is about. Feel free to check it out. It's brand new so there's not much on it so far!

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Naked Baby has choked more on my milk than on any food. And gagging is normal. Ugh! Sorry you had to deal with that.
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Is anyone doing the iron supplements with your LO's. I've read that this can interfere with natural iron absorption. And I've read that the supply of iron received from mom runs out around 6 months? So I'm wondering if I should start giving him the drops. He's not getting it in his diet like he would be if we were doing iron-fortified cereal or something like that. Any ideas or thoughts on this? Thanks.
Wow, I am so glad that this post was on pg. 10 of this thread. I read through pgs. 1-4 and then finally had to give up, and skipped to the last one, and here is what I was looking for. I just posted about it in Veg Living thread.

My DD self-feeds sweet potato, winter squash, potato, pear, etc. and according to this Kellymom article that someone sent me when I posted in Veg Living, the first two are iron-rich. I am wondering about giving her home made oatmeal cereal, though. We have never spoon fed her. If I just gave her oatmeal prepared the way I eat it, maybe with some BM mixed in... but not too liquidy... maybe she could just eat it with her hands? Or is that a choking hazard? (We're vegan, so we are never going to be introducing any meat or dairy.) She is also probably old enough (8 months) to try self-feeding steamed spinach, eh?
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Been lurking for a little bit getting used to the idea. My poor baby, 6.5 mos (born 7/10/07) has been so unhappy at dinner so we finally set up the high chair and have been letting him play/eat. What a different dinner time baby! My first ds didn't really want to eat until a year (and I hadn't heard of BLW, just offered to feed him) and I am so surprised how enthusiastic ds2 has been about food. We've given him avacodo slices, butternut squash, pear, banana, steamed brocolli stalk and apple (just sucking and nibbling on the core really). I'm kind of surprised how well he is doing with it and how much he is actually eating. I think I'm still going to be nervous for awhile though and will stick to these foods and other softer veggies/fruit for awhile until he gets a little better.

It's not very efficient though, is it? Lots of little pieces get bitten off and not eaten. Oh well, how fun though to watch him learn on his own.
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At what age have you mammas started introducing a cup or sippy cup? I'm not sure how this fits in with BLW but my MIL recently asked if DD has a sippy cup. I told her she does, but didn't mention that we haven't tried using it yet.

DD is 7 MO and still EBF (we tried a few solids but she gagged on everything so we're waiting a while to try again). I guess I'm just wondering what age babies start drinking in ways other than the breast. Did it reduce the amount of time your baby nursed?

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Here's DD at 6mo:
http://flickr.com/photos/lovecat/604...7600330803313/

We also started her with a Sigg bottle, which she loved, around the same age (7mo):

http://flickr.com/photos/lovecat/841...7600330803313/

We've never bothered with a sippy cup, we just use regular cups at home and the Sigg for out and about (if at all).

And no, it certainly didn't reduce nursing, no more than the gradual introduction of solids did. At 13mo, she NOW nurses less often than before, but that was very long and gradual process and she still nurses at least 3x/day plus several times at night.

Oh and she only gets water in her cups. Juice is pointless and dairy is icky.

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Wow, I am so glad that this post was on pg. 10 of this thread. I read through pgs. 1-4 and then finally had to give up, and skipped to the last one, and here is what I was looking for. I just posted about it in Veg Living thread.

My DD self-feeds sweet potato, winter squash, potato, pear, etc. and according to this Kellymom article that someone sent me when I posted in Veg Living, the first two are iron-rich. I am wondering about giving her home made oatmeal cereal, though. We have never spoon fed her. If I just gave her oatmeal prepared the way I eat it, maybe with some BM mixed in... but not too liquidy... maybe she could just eat it with her hands? Or is that a choking hazard? (We're vegan, so we are never going to be introducing any meat or dairy.) She is also probably old enough (8 months) to try self-feeding steamed spinach, eh?
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What we've done with oatmeal the time or two he's had it is put some on a spoon and give him the spoon. I like my oatmeal nice and thick, so it sticks well to the spoon.
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At what age have you mammas started introducing a cup or sippy cup? I'm not sure how this fits in with BLW but my MIL recently asked if DD has a sippy cup. I told her she does, but didn't mention that we haven't tried using it yet.

DD is 7 MO and still EBF (we tried a few solids but she gagged on everything so we're waiting a while to try again). I guess I'm just wondering what age babies start drinking in ways other than the breast. Did it reduce the amount of time your baby nursed?
i know you can start working on open cups at 7 mos.
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At what age have you mammas started introducing a cup or sippy cup? I'm not sure how this fits in with BLW but my MIL recently asked if DD has a sippy cup. I told her she does, but didn't mention that we haven't tried using it yet.
Ds2 started day care 2 days a week at 5.5 months; we skipped the bottle and went straight to a sippy. He did/does just fine with it! It didn't take long at all for him to learn to grab it and tilt it up to drink.

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At what age have you mammas started introducing a cup or sippy cup? I'm not sure how this fits in with BLW but my MIL recently asked if DD has a sippy cup. I told her she does, but didn't mention that we haven't tried using it yet.
We've started introducing a cup. We just use one at dinner when DS eats (he's 6 1/2 months). I put the tiniest bit of water in the cup. At this point he still doesn't know what to do with it, but we have started working on it. It's just a regular cup too, not a sippy cup.
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Hi mamas! Oscar had his first 'meal' last night. I thought you might enjoy the pictures:
http://jemm.dyndns.org/firstfood/

It went well and I could tell he was really enjoying experiencing his food, rather than just swallowing mush.

4 kids under 10
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This thread is huge--a little too big for me to go through completely so sorry if some of my questions have been answered. I am wondering what foods anyone tried with a 6 mo old that were unique or not part of the standard schedule of introducing solids. I am doing BLW with my 6 mo daughter, but did not do it with my 3 yr old son. I am definitely being more relaxed about introducing foods, but I still want to be somewhat careful. I have read that you shouldn't rely too much on grains because of all the sugar and how it affects them and possible obesity problems later. I did make her some "teething biscuits" that she loved, but were pretty much all carbs (sugar and flour). What about oatmeal? Would that be easier to choke on though because of its texture?
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Another question...someone mentioned toast. What kind of toast did you use? Did you make homemade bread? The bread we purchase has honey in it and I am worried about that whole no honey before 1 year thing. But I would love to give her some toast.
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