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Another baby? Hmmmm.... perhaps. This fall? No way!! Too soon! (Note the spacing between my kids) ha ha! Of course we aren't exactly preventing either....sooo.....

Sean definately does the dreamy nurse check-in at random times in the night. If he doesn't latch on, he gets mad and wakes up. However, if I'm not in the bed, dh can get him back to sleep with a minimum of fuss. So I think its just habit at this point. He nurses at 7:30 pm, around 11pm (when I go to bed and *always* wake him up accidentally) and 5:00. And lots of nightimes "sips". Honestly, I don't even notice. I am sleeping sooooo much better than I was with my first child. I swear I was going insane from lack of sleep for two and a half years. But I feel like I have a enough sleep this time around. Just lucky I guess.

Honestly, I'm having no problems with ds. Its dd that I struggle with every hour of the day!

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I am soooo tired today. DD is still teething big-time. She is getting 4 teeth on top all at once. 2 have come through the gums but the other 2 are still waiting. She's been waking up crying at 2 a.m. and then at 5 a.m. the last couple of nights. Yesterday she was up for the day at 5:00 and it felt like a looong day. Today we were determined to get her back to sleep. We gave her teething tablets, nursed her, and then finally Tylenol and took her into our bed. When the Tylenol finally kicked in she went back to sleep until 7:30. I must, sadly, admit that I wasn't very good with her in the early morning today. After about 45 minutes of crying I was getting really grumpy. Thankfully, DH knows me well and took DD into bed and sent me off to the couch to get some rest. He was late getting to work today because she finally fell asleep with him and he didn't want to wake her. I feel bad about that and about being so grumpy with DD--she's just a little baby and has got to be in pain with all of this tooth action.

It's fun to see others thinking about Disney already too! We've been talking about when we should take her. I'm so weird---I won't bring Disney stuff/books/etc into the house but I can't wait to take her there. Oy. My mom bought some classic fairytale books for DD and I asked her to hold off on them because I haven't decided about whether to have them at our house or not. On the one hand, I know I can't shelter her from every message I disagree with and that there are plenty of positive things in the stories; but on the other hand, I really cringe at the way women and girls are cast in these tales (the helpless princess waiting to be saved by the prince and live happily ever after). I know, I know, I'm probably thinking about this WAY too much. In any event, I think we might wait until 1st or 2nd grade for a trip to Disney. I went when I was about 7 and it was good timing--I was old enough to have the stamina and patience for long days at the park, big enough to ride everything and young enough to still be excited about the characters. We have Sesame Place not too far from us so we'll probably do that before Disney.

DD is having a blissfully long nap so I may go get myself a snack while I have a moment!

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I have the same conflict too over classic fairy tales. Especially since dd1 is hard core into stories these days and she seems to pick out the "worst" bits and just go over and over and over them till I want to scream. Some of the gender-typing is just so "ugh". I do have a few collections of stories that focus on positive female images or just leave the whole "gender thing" out of the plot. Tatterhood is the title of one anthology I think (it's packed right now).

There was a quote I've been thinking about recently... something along the lines of "fairy tales don't create a child's monsters, they give the child a sword to fight them". That's not the real quote, but it was something like that. I'm pretty sure it was by Bruno Bettelheim. Have you read The Uses of Enchantment? It's an interesting book looking at the "purpose" of fairy tales in children's lives. The conclusion he comes to is that fairy tales may seem dark/bloody/horrid to adults but that for children these stories help them address the inner fears they carry and provide them with tools necessary to "solve" their own inner conflicts. The sanitized disney versions don't give children the tools they need, and don't even acknowledge a child's feelings.

There's an interesting (and readable!) article about the pros/cons of fairy tale imagery (gender, violence, etc) here: http://infohost.nmt.edu/~beverly/wri...airytales.html (the ultimate conclusion of the article is more pro than con, just so you know the bias up front)

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I don't think it is ever too early to decide what types of things you want your children exposed to - especially daughters. Girls have it really hard growing up in our culture. There is so much focus on looking the right way, and being beautiful, etc. It makes me scared to ever have a girl. It is almost as if you have to beat all the odds to have a well-adjusted daughter who is comfortable being herself. I'm working really hard on raising boys who treat women nicely and don't focus on just looks. It is a crazy world we live in!

Speaking of crazy, DS1 is doing well Surgery went well this morning and he's back to his rambunctious self. He was quite out of it from the anesthesia but it seems to have worn off. His ears aren't bothering him at all and he seems to be hearing better already.

Evan has turned into a good napper these days. He now takes one nap for about 2+ hours! Now we just need to him to do this at night and all will be well!

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I don't think it is ever too early to decide what types of things you want your children exposed to - especially daughters. Girls have it really hard growing up in our culture. There is so much focus on looking the right way, and being beautiful, etc. It makes me scared to ever have a girl. It is almost as if you have to beat all the odds to have a well-adjusted daughter who is comfortable being herself. I'm working really hard on raising boys who treat women nicely and don't focus on just looks. It is a crazy world we live in!

Speaking of crazy, DS1 is doing well Surgery went well this morning and he's back to his rambunctious self. He was quite out of it from the anesthesia but it seems to have worn off. His ears aren't bothering him at all and he seems to be hearing better already.

Evan has turned into a good napper these days. He now takes one nap for about 2+ hours! Now we just need to him to do this at night and all will be well!
So glad the surgery went well!!! I was thinking of you guys. Yes, when I think of helping three girls through junior high school age I cringe. It can be so hard to be a girl. I'm sure it's hard to be a boy too, though I have no first hand experience with that.

We're thinking of a Disney trip next spring, but it depends on whether the baby starts sleeping more before then. I'm so tired all the time I can't imagine trying to spend our days at an amusement parks.

And speaking of babies, I'm still feeling quite done, thank you. Three kids just seems "right" for our family. Barring something totally unexpected (though not unwelcome) we are done!! Unless sometihng drastic changes I can't ever imagine TTC again.

Lucy's started to try to stand by herself. It's so cute!! She's so cautious that she stands for a second then sits down quickly before she can fall. I love this age and all the incredible fast-development. It seems like there's a new milestone every couple days or so.

BTW, is Lulu the last gummy grinner? She still hasn't gotten her first tooth, though she's madly teething and unhappy about them so probably soon?

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Part of what I really love with these monthly threads is how varied all our babes are. No teeth, eight teeth, walking for ages, not even crawling. It's fun to see the differences, and it helps keep me from stressing.
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BTW, is Lulu the last gummy grinner? She still hasn't gotten her first tooth, though she's madly teething and unhappy about them so probably soon?
We are still toothless here!

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Part of what I really love with these monthly threads is how varied all our babes are. No teeth, eight teeth, walking for ages, not even crawling. It's fun to see the differences, and it helps keep me from stressing.
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I thought Willa was going to be the last gummy grinner, but a tooth finally poked through last week, though you can still barely see it. My grandmother tells me none of her babies got a tooth before a year old. One of my friends here has a daughter Willa's age who already has 8 or 9 teeth I think - first one at 3 months old.
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Top left tooth (that's A.'s third) poked through yesterday. Still waiting for number four. Still not enjoying the painful nips during nursing! :

S. still has goopy eyes, and now the baby has one goopy eye, so I called the doctor's office, but he wants me to give it a few more days. Now I'm the one thinking we should be doing more active treatment. More missed school days. I don't worry about academics at age 4, but I wish I didn't have to pay when we've missed about half the days of the past few weeks!

I'm kinda in a funk today. Fighting the boys' virus? Feeling overwhelmed by all the home improvement projects we're in the middle of? Just generally prone to depression and at an iffy place? Lonely days? (Won't have Mom back until A's birthday in June.) Bleh.

Spending too much money! Yikes! I ordered some fairly useful things for the house, but also some clothes for me. Admittedly, I have little that fits well, but I wasn't going to buy any more fat clothes, even on sale. (I'm still 20 pounds up from pre-preggo--and, based upon last time, won't lose the weight until A. is weaned.)

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hugs willow, I hate days like that.

Those babes without a tooth amaze me, we are working on #9 and I seriously have had enough, can't wait until they are ALL through.

Anyone dealing with separation anxiety? DD can't handle being out of my sight, it can be really hard on my arms and back, but (this is silly) I kind of enjoy her wanting ONLY Mommy. Is that silly? Poor Dh is feeling a little rejected though.

DH bought concert tickets for the end of the month, and as fun as it will be, I am really worried about leaving DD for about 5 hours. MIL will be out of town, who is our go-to babysitter and I am a little worried about leaving dd with another person. Uuuuggghhh, I think I have separation anxiety too

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Anyone dealing with separation anxiety? DD can't handle being out of my sight, it can be really hard on my arms and back, but (this is silly) I kind of enjoy her wanting ONLY Mommy. Is that silly? Poor Dh is feeling a little rejected though.
Ha ha! I remember feeling that way with dd#1. I never admitted though, of course. But you guys are a safe crowd. We haven't quite hit that stage with ds though. He generally prefers to be with me, but doesn't mind hanging out with dh or others for awhile.

I also know what you mean about not wanting to leave for 5 hours. I'm already trying to psych myself up for me and dh's anniversary night out...in June! Sheesh! Sean will be a year old by then. You would think I would loosen up a little already! I do work mornings so we are apart 4-5 hours every day. So whats one night out? I guess I'm just not ready yet.

However I have no problems thrusting Sean into dh's arms the second he gets home so I can take a break.

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I think, with both my boys, I've tended to be a "Here, you want to hold him?!?" type of mom. (Except maybe the first couple of months with the first, whom I never wanted to put down.) I mean, I let my friends and neighbors hold A., and, this time around, I even say to them, "Do you want to hold him and are just too shy to ask?"

But A. has had a few (like, literally three) episodes where DH came home and took him and he just burst into tears and howled until I took him back! DH felt bad, but, honestly, I, too, had a feeling of, "Wow, I really am important to this kid!"

S. really never had any noticeable separation anxiety, or stranger anxiety for that matter, so it kinda makes me feel loved. Admittedly, if A. would never go to other people, I'd probably be a jittering wreck by now. I depend upon my in-laws, my mom, and one particular good friend to bail me out when I am worn out and really want help. I am not strong, not energetic, and not always ready to be a great mommy.

Hoping I'll be in a better mood today...
I'm feeling overwhelmed because I've got to take S. to a specialist at Children's Hospital today because his knee(s) were bothering him. Of course, he hasn't complained of it since the day after I finally took him to his pediatrician to get a referral to this pediatric orthopedist. Figures, eh? But he's complained of it off and on since November, I think, so, by March, it just seemed time to get somebody to look at it. (And I didn't think a four year old could so consistently claim the same--left--knee hurt for several months if it weren't real.)
But my MIL is still sick so I have to take both boys and we've had about five nights of pretty bad sleep and my whole body aches from it, so I've had more optimistic mornings...

And now I need to go eat before the boys wake up and I forget about my own basic needs!

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and, this time around, I even say to them, "Do you want to hold him and are just too shy to ask?"
I'm the same way this time around! Evan isn't even that heavy (16 lbs) but holding him for a long time kills my neck and shoulders. It doesn't help that I was in a car accident when he was 8 weeks old and got whiplash. But I love handing him off, it gives me a nice break.
We dealt with seperation anxiety but it seems to be completely gone now. Evan even sat with my mom the other day while I went into surgery with Aiden. Evan didn't care at all that I was gone. It makes me think tat maybe, just maybe DH and I will be able to go out to dinner alone sometime in the next few months

I can't believe that our babies birth month is coming up soon. Seeing the April mamas have a birthday thread reminds me of when we were all pregnant and their birth month arrived. I knew ours wasn't far behind.

DH will be home of Friday and I can't wait. Not having a break from the kids at all is wearing on me. Evan is sitting next to me playing with two (closed) highlighters and a piece of paper right now, who needs baby toys?!

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willo--I hope today is a better day! Those blue days are rough... I also know what you mean about the clothes. I'm still 10 pounds over my pre-pregnancy weight and I had just about nothing to wear (and wearing maternity clothes was really not fun anymore ) but I didn't want to spend money on new stuff. I got a few things that fit though and it feels soooooo good to wear them. Enjoy your new clothes!

Separation anxiety: Joy is totally fine with DH--he's home with her 2 days a week without me. With others, she's ok if we're in the room with her but doesn't really want to be held by the other person. She's better if they sit down and play with her on the floor. If she's had a chance to warm up to the person when we're there, she's been ok with us leaving for a little bit (maybe an hour). It helps in a pinch but we're still not really able to hand her off for a long stretch. Usually that's ok but I am looking forward to having a date with DH every once in a while again sometime.

Fairy tales--Glad to hear I'm not the only one thinking about this! It's funny but I didn't even think of the violence aspect of it all--it's just the gender stuff that really gets under my skin. I guess I base it on what I internalized as a kid: Violence in fairy tales=not real/ doesn't apply to real life; gender roles in fairy tales= supposed reflection of reality, even though it wasn't like that in my home. Thankfully I didn't carry that with me for long but I definitely bought into a lot of it for a while.

It's a lovely, warm day here so I think we'll go to the park when DD gets up!

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Sep anx- Ro is actually getting a bit better. While dd1 was happy as long as someone was paying attention to her it didn't matter to her "who" was paying attention. But Ro has been a hard core "MUST BE WITH MAMA!!!!AAAAAAAH!!!!" baby since about 4 months. I mean she would wail, scream, cry, sob, turn purple, shake, arch her back.... the works. And she would do this for hours on end. Only to stop the instant I held her again and start back up the moment I handed her off (even to dh). She is so totally opposite dd1 that sometimes I find it hard to believe I birthed both girls. But she is finally starting to perk up and seperate a little form me. Which is nice.

Teeth- we still have only those three bottom teeth. I keep thinking she is teething (drool all over, gnawing on things) but no new teeth.

Poop- poor kiddo. Despite her daily dose of prunes she is still constipated at the drop of a hat. She screamed in my arms for a good 30-40 minutes today while producing a marble sized rock of poo. And I mean, solid and round. I totally get the bit in the Sear's Baby Book where Martha talks about being a midwife to her constipated child's poo. I didn't have any glycerine suppositories to "soothe the way" so to speak so, um, well, I used the adult version (water based, for those intimate moments doncha know). It seemed to help, but her poor little bum was all ripped up. I don't know what to do. She nurses round the clock, has 1-2 prunes a day, doesn't eat that much solid food and yet about once a week things get backed up. And when that happens... ouch. It breaks my heart.

Random sling stuff- I love love love my ergo. Which is good since putting Ro down is basically impossible. But I recently (like, yesterday) discovered that if Ro falls asleep while nursing (so sort of laying on her side on my lap) I can slide a ring sling over/under her and sling her up without waking her. I can't do that with the ergo and this is a wooooooonderful new tool for me!

My dad- he's still in the hospital. My mom wont let DH and I see him, but my bro arrived a few days ago from AK and he's convinced her to let us see him tonight or tomorrow. We hope. He'll probably go straight to a residential care facility but we need to find out what medicare/disability will cover. Hopefully I'll know more soon.

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Separation anxiety is in full force around here. Owen can't stand to be out of arms at the moment. He's fine with my dh, unless it's the end of the day and then he demands to be held by me and only me. If we're in the room, he won't even sit near someone else. Argh. I know that developmentally it's a good thing, but it's a bummer that he won't happily hang out with his Memere.
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Ev is constipated too. I can't remember the last time he pooped, it has been since at least last weekend. I suspect it is the oatmeal I have been giving him every morning in an attempt to fatten him up. It is fortified w/iron and I wanted to avoid it but decided to try it after all. I think I'm going to try pears tomorrow. I tried some juice today with no luck, but he sure loved drinking a juice box!

Clay, that sling idea is fabulous! I'm going to have to try that. We LOVE our Ergo here too. It is so comfy, and I love putting him on my back and having my hands free.

I hope everything goes well with your dad.

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Joseph has serious separation anxiety. He wants Mom and Mom only. Most of the time it's not a problem, but sometimes I do need a break or need to get something done at work and can't have him with me.

We went bowling yesterday. Our youth group participated in a fundraiser for Big Brother Big Sister, and since DH is still in the middle of his exams Joseph went with me. He had a grand time watching everyone. I haven't been bowling in a long time, so my score was pretty pathetic but I had a good time.

Only one more week of exams for DH!! I'm looking forward to seeing him more often!

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Jessica: I hope the exams go well and your DH has more free time soon!

Speaking of DHs, mine is back from his week-long trip! I'm so happy he's back, it was rough without it. By Friday I was pulling my hair out. I don't know how single moms of more than one kid do it.

I ended up buying some Earth's best prunes with oatmeal and giving them to Evan yesterday. They didn't work right away so I gave him prune juice too. It worked, but his poop was still pretty firm. Poor guy. I'm gonna back off on the oatmeal every morning for a while.

Ev is sleeping better now that DH is back too. He will go back to sleep on DH's chest when he wakes up in the middle of the night. I woke up engorged the last two days - who cares, I'm getting a little sleep!

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OMG...Evan slept from 9 pm to 5:30 am last night without waking up once I can't believe it! His longest stretch before this was only 4 hours and that has only happened two times. I didn't do anything different, just the usual nurse until he's sleepy then lay him down and rub his back with the radio on. I did get him to lay in the crib (I usually try once or twice and put him in the bed if it fails). I woke up several times to check him and make sure he was still breathing. By 5 am I was super engorged - like post partum my-milk-just-came-in engorged. And he's sleeping again now. Of course DH and I are starting to wonder if something is wrong. I hope he's just changing his sleep habits!

I hope everyone else is having good sleep luck.

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OMG...Evan slept from 9 pm to 5:30 am last night without waking up once I can't believe it! His longest stretch before this was only 4 hours and that has only happened two times. I didn't do anything different, just the usual nurse until he's sleepy then lay him down and rub his back with the radio on. I did get him to lay in the crib (I usually try once or twice and put him in the bed if it fails). I woke up several times to check him and make sure he was still breathing. By 5 am I was super engorged - like post partum my-milk-just-came-in engorged. And he's sleeping again now. Of course DH and I are starting to wonder if something is wrong. I hope he's just changing his sleep habits!

I hope everyone else is having good sleep luck.
I can't even convey my jelousy Jillian!! I was getting really frusterated with Jolie last nigt, when she wakes up I usually lay her down and she will pop her thumb in her mouth, and she is fine without nursing. Then she sits herself up in 2 mins, I lay her down, etc, etc, etc....This can go on for an hour, and she seems fine, she doesn't cry or anything, it is like a game and I was getting so frusterated because It definately wasn't a game. I am so taxed right now, how long will this go on? I am going to try something new tonight. I am moving her crib out to the hallway and getting a fan for white noise. I KNOW that DH wakes her up, heck he wakes me up with his snoring, I so badly wanted to boot him to the couch last night, but since he was sick I didn't.

Anyway I am also raging with PMS with a serious heavy, painful, first, REAL af. I forgot how really aweful it can be, I haven't had one for 19months. I have been eating a ton, and all I really want is a big greasy hamburger and donuts, it's really disgusting, but this craving is unbearable. I think I need to look at my diet closely. I know this could be a sign of lack of nourishment. Usually when i have been getting a good amount of Calcium/magnesium then I don't have any cravings during af. Time to implement that. What do you all take?

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Anyone else experience massive MDC-separation-anxiety while the server upgrade thing was happening? I missed you guys!!!

The doctor finally called in the eye ointment Rx for us, so maybe we'll be less goopy-eyed tomorrow. None of our usual alternatives worked, and poor A. woke up with his eyes totally glued shut this morning, and he was SOOOOO mad! Gross stuff.

Today, I have totally gone for it and put our double-sized futon between Big Bed (our king) and the other wall. Since the crib mattress was already on the other side between that wall and Big Bed, we are now officially wierdos with one gigantic family bed setup. It is a 12 foot square room, so we are wall-to-wall beds with about five feet of free space at the foot (feet) of the bed(s). Just now, I nursed A. down to sleep on the double, and I'm hoping to transition him to thinking that is his/our bed so DH can come back to Big Bed. Ideally, I'd be sleeping in Big Bed, too, and A. would be alone in the double (but with room for me to nurse him there) and S. will stay in his tiny (but adequate) crib sized space on the other side. Phew! It looks like hell, though.

How do you guys (who sleep similarly) deal with the look of it? Am I the only one driven crazy by beds on the floor? (But I'm more disturbed by my fear A. will roll off of even our boxspring+mattress on floor combo!) I think my big problem is how messy I am generally. The bedrooms were always tidier than downstairs where we live and play and have our clutter. (I have allergies, too, so try harder to be less dusty upstairs.) Now I have no place that I can look at and say, "Ah, that room, at least, is clean!"

We had some massive teething pain lately. Amazing how, when you get the right homeopathic remedy, it can go from yowling, unrelenting misery to totally calm baby--in about 20 minutes! Things seem to have settled down, and last night was FINALLY a decent sleep again. (Not like Jilian's great night, but 9-2ish, nurse, 2-4, nurse, 4-6, nurse and Mommy gets up, 6-8 and A. was up for the day.)

I wonder if I'm so out of sorts lately because I'm so conflicted about starting another really massive remodeling project... We plan to live here until retirement, so maybe 30 more years. Interest rates are still low and construction elsewhere is slowing, so it seems like a good time to go for it and do an addition on top of our existing single-story family room addition. But the nervous part of me says, "Hey, what if the economy tanks in an even more serious way and we owe even more money on the house?!?" The other part says, "Yeah, but you need another bathroom and more bedroom/closet space now, while the boys are kids, not after they go off to college!" I'm always a mess while I'm "between projects"... I just keep scraping wallpaper while I waffle about this!

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oh boy molly, i am so not ready to deal with all the cycle stuff returning...i hope i get a few months more. i found that taking the nordic naturals dha etc supplement helped even me out a lot hormonally and then a lot of the pms stuff was better. as for your little miss, i deal with bjorn doing the lying down/sitting up game too. he too seems just fine but him being in the same room as me i get impatient to get back to sleep!! i am going to move him to his sister's room, where the big crib is set up, soon. then he can be up all night sitting there if he wants to! but they say to stretch out the check times each night, so the first night it's 5 minutes, and then 10, etc...so now i'm only getting up to lie him back down every 20 or so minutes. but finally he's getting to sleep by himself during the day.

jillian, YEAH FOR YOU! hopefully evan is establishing some lovely new pattern. bjorn is teething and sick so he's been up at that 4/5ish hour, but also another time or two before that.: but i am trying HARD not to give in and fall back on the old pattern of taking him to bed with me and nursing him...as above, i just get tired of being awake in the middle of the night!

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We moved our bed to the floor too as I was worried about Sean rolling off. We only have a queen, but our problem was moving the bed frame out of the room. My DH built it inside the bedroom, so he had to bring in his power drill and disassemble everything to move it out. I miss my bed. Hopefully we will transition Sean to the crib this summer. I really like sleeping with Sean, but I am TOTALLY cramped and dh feels pushed to the side of the bed, and Sean is a light sleeper and wakes up for every little movement, and only falls back to sleep if I nurse him, and dd is starting to notice that she is all alone. We have GOT to get him sleeping on his own for everyone's sake. How? I have no clue. Sean will ONLY sleep if I nurse him down. He will take no substitute. And he will only sleep in our bed. He wont even nap elsewhere.

Matajai -- can you post that link you used for getting bjorn to bed?

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...We have GOT to get him sleeping on his own for everyone's sake. How? I have no clue. Sean will ONLY sleep if I nurse him down. He will take no substitute. And he will only sleep in our bed. He wont even nap elsewhere.
A. was like this, too, with regards to only sleeping in "our" bed. What helped is getting the new (double) futon that I just put on the floor between our current bed and the wall. He looked around a little bit, but mostly seems to accept that we are still in "our" (correct/appropriate) room, and I am still nursing him down to sleep, so he seems to be accepting the new bed as an extension of our old bed.

Of course, I spent most of last night on the floor futon with A. instead of in Big Bed with DH, but I'm hoping this will just be a gradual progression towards A. sleeping alone-but-close-by. We'll see. At least no one is cramped anymore!

We practiced napping on the new futon a couple of times before we did the whole night there (last night was the first night.)

Oops. A. is waking up. Can't have been too bad a new bed--he's just slept an hour later than usual!

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I've found over the last week or so that Owen sleeps for much longer chunks of time in his crib than he does in our bed. Going to sleep at 7:00 and not waking until 2:00 or 4:00, and being willing to be patted back to sleep. Problem though, he's super, incredibly, overwhelmingly clingy during the day now. Refuses to be out of reach of dh or I every waking moment. And, although he used to wake and fuss a bit in the crib, now he goes right to screaming bloody murder and refusing to go back to sleep without nursing all the way back to sleep. Woe to me if he wakes when I lay him back down. So now what do I do? DH does NOT want him back in the bed, and I'm sleeping much better without him there too. But I hate listening to him scream, even when I'm on my way across the house to get him I feel terrible about it. I also don't know for sure if the clingy is because of the bed move, or because he also started walking around (holding out fingers) at that same time. Argh.
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Patch, is it possible to put the crib into your room and slowly transition him that way? Our room ia big and we have a sidecar arrangement with the crib so when Evan wakes up he can see me and he is usually ok with that. Does Owen have a night light? Do you have any kind of music or crib toy that can keep him entertained and maybe calm until you get into the room? We have one of those aquariums and Ev knows how to turn it on. I don't have too much advice, but if you are all sleeping better with him in the crib then don't feel bad about that. You need to do what works best for everyone.

I remember when Aiden was a baby I read something about going to sleep, I think it was in the NCSS. It said that when a baby falls asleep with you and you place him down somewhere else, when he wakes up it is confusing and scary. It is like if you go to sleep in your bed then wake up on the kitchen floor, you'd be like "WTH?!" They suggest getting the baby settled but not all the way asleep so he knows where he is being put and can drift off to sleep on his own. It made sense to me and made me motivated to try to get the kids into bed or crib before they were fully nursed to sleep. It never seemed to work for me until after 10 mos old It is just now working with Evan.

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Today is one of those days... Baby is getting her 6th tooth (her 4th in the past 2 weeks), terribly fussy, not helped by Hyland's tablets. Spent the last hour getting her down for her nap with her screaming most of the time no matter what I did. Finally gave her a dose of Tylenol but had to open the new bottle and noticed that I didn't get the dye-free one which bothers me on a lot of levels--most superficially that there are now red smears all over DD's sleep sack, sheets and face from the drippy delivery. Meanwhile, cat has puked all over front rug and bath mat. Plus I have to work tonight and I would rather watch TV with a glass of wine in one hand and bar of chocolate in the other (dinner of champions, right?).

Ok, enough kvetching... Glad to hear some of the babies (and moms) are getting more sleep. The other night I slept from 10:00-5:30, nursed DD and then went back to sleep until 7:00. I felt like I could run a marathon the next day! It's amazing what a good night of sleep will do! Of course I'm not likely to see a night like that again for a little bit...

So DD is starting to move a little more. She's doing a hybrid army crawl/regular crawl. She still needs to be motivated a bit (like putting the remote on the floor across the room), but is getting better at it all. Ok, I think she's finally asleep, so I had better prep dinner while I can.

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DH took the laptop yesterday to do the taxes (done!) so I had double mdc- sepertion anxiety! Glad to see everyone again, you all (and mdc) keep me sane!

Beds- with dd1 we had the queen + twin mattress on the floor deal. Shortly before dd2 arrived we had gone back to a bedframe with a toddler bed pushed up agaist one side, side car cosleeper on the other. I really didn't want to go back to the floor but it's by far the easiest option...but I found a middle ground!

We currently have an IKEA toddler bed (kritter) pushed up/tied to the queen bedframe. But the bedframe is also by IKEA and it's one of their very low beds. So the mattress on the toddler bed is the same height as the queen mattress on our bed and the distance from the floor to the top of the mattress is about 16 inches. I put a camp pad on the floor of my side of the bed in case Ro rolls, but she'll be able to climb in/out with no problem. It's probaby about the same total height as a mattress + box spring BUT I get to keep some storage (those flat under bed boxes fit on the queen side, 8 diaper boxes fit under the toddler bed...each holding clothes of specific future Ro sizes as Laia outgrows things since we have no closets).

Sleep- we're doing ok but this last week has been totally wacky (with my dad in an out of the hospital, my brother visiting, trying to pack/unload my parent's house, major house projects, etc) so our schedules are all off. For example, we didn't get home last night till almost 10pm! But once the girls are asleep they tend to stay that way other than the normal night nursing.

And speaking of nursing... Ro has gained TWO POUNDS since I started the "nurse till you drop" program! Which means she is back on the weight charts (or at least, she's on the charts in the back of the Sears Baby Book ). She likes Coconut, Lime Chicken and BBQ Chicken, and as much melon as she can hold. Fortunately she also likes prunes... we're giving her 2-3 prunes a day and that barely keeps her system regular. We did get some glycerine suppositories (and used them one night) to have on hand though I think the KY was doing the job.

Anyway, I'm loving that she is filling out a bit. Though my MIL did say she thought my breastmilk wasn't good for a baby her age and I should give solids first (instead of nurse, then solids). Which is the first time my mil has ever said anything anti-breastfeeding. And my mom came out with her first anti-breastfeeding statement a few months ago too. Totally ugh.

But here's hoping everyone is loving spring... we had snow over the weekend but it's sunny and dry now!

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