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Old 03-21-2005, 10:44 AM - Thread Starter
 
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Post all your pregnancy (or not :LOL ) related chit chat here for the week!

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Old 03-21-2005, 10:51 AM - Thread Starter
 
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The M/S is here. I was feeling great last week, just getting super full way too fast (haven't quite adjusted my portions for that, so I had that overfull feeling after a lot of meals). Even my pre-natals were going down easy.

This morning, when I leaned over to get lunchmeat out of the fridge, I felt like I was going to throw up. I ate my breakfast ok, but now that I am at work, it's just not settled well. If I were to get near a toilet right now, I feel like breakfast would come up. This is how I was last time. I threw up every morning before lunch. If I did, I felt decent the rest of the day. If I didn't, I stayed nauseous all day. Ugh.

Also, I tried to put on a pair of pants that I wore just last Saturday and they were so tight! Yikes. My work clothes are still ok, since a lot of them have some elastic, but I guess I will be living in yoga pants all weekend.

On the plus side, I took a nice 45 min hike with my girlfriend yesterday. It was gorgeous and relaxing. I was pushing 30 lbs of stroller and 40 lbs of kid, and there were some hills, so it was a decent workout. Otherwise, we went at a nice pace. I hope to get at least one hike in each weekend. I love my hiking stroller and DS had a good time as well!

How is everyone else on this lovely Monday morning....

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Morning!

4w5d today - I think the morning sickness is starting to drop hints that it's coming. Hopefully I can find something semi-healthy to eat. I think I will take the dog to the park in a little bit for some mild exercise. I need to call my midwife to find out when she wants my 1st appt and when my first peri appt will be.

Hope everyone is feeling well today!
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I feel kind of blah but it's mostly in the evening..so much for morning sickness..i had a dream last night that i had a m/c..that totally freaked me out
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Good Morning! I am at 6 weeks today. I haven't told anyone. I haven't even told the Dad. I had a horrendous m/c last year at about 15 weeks. I am already getting chubby and it's almost like my body is going right back to where it was when I lost the baby. It is really strange. I do want to tell the father but I just can't get it out! We weren't trying to conceive and even though we really have a wonderful loving and respectful relationship, I am so scared at what his reaction will be. Anyway, that's all! Hope you are all feeling well!
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I'm just trying to pretend I'm not an emotional minefield- my dh is getting really quite scared by the mood swings. The good news? I bought some sea bands this morning and they're working :LOL If you're blurky and haven't yet tried them, I'd highly recommend them.
Other than that, the only real problem I'm having is the waistline- I feel like once my tummy muscles gave up fighting, I got less tired, which is good. I just feel really superstitious about not wearing maternity clothes before the first scan- am I being ridiculous? AND I gave away all my old stuff, so I have to start again anyhow.
Oh, did I mention that 7 of the mums in my eldest's class are pregnant again? We're all due between September and November as well- and 6 of the 7's eldest children were born between September and December. It's going to be major deja vu at the schoolgate.

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Orla, hang in there girl.

I didn't really think I was too emotional or moody, but I guess it's sneaking up on me. The house I thought we would be able to rent fell through; it was rented last week before we even saw it. I am so utterly sad, it's ridiculous!! I am really feeling sorry for myself and wondering why things just can't be EASY and WORK OUT!!!

I am starting to resent this *tiny* house we live in, and the stupid tiny town it's in. I know it's irrational but I just have this feeling that if this house didn't work out, nothing will, even if we wait a couple of months. Woe is me.

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What a bummer, Amy! I read your last post about that house and it sounded way cool. I live in an awful subdivision too (albeit newer) but to get anywhere you have to drive. I dream of moving to a place where stores, parks, libraries, etc are in walking distance and where there is a true sense of community. So I'll be sad and emotional with you!

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Ah, the joy of hormones! Last night, I laughed so much at Funny Videos that I almost wet myself, then cried so hard at the Contender, I couldn't regain control And, of course, woke up this morning with a migrain.

Oh, and my two year old is still sick, and I swear this virus makes her MEAN!!! She's the poster child for terrible two, which thankfully is not her normal behaviour. Whine, whine, whine.

But, on a positive note, the little bean is now the size of a pinto bean, which is very exciting! Next week an olive, then a small plum, it's so exciting!
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im 6 weeks 2 days today ( i think...)

yesterday i had a huge fight with my mom.. ( she doesnt know im ) i love her, but she is insensitive and im hyper sensitive. my grama is very sick and its a lot of stress for everyone right now.
i cried for like 3 hours and feel better today, but my head hurts and i feel kinda empty. i wish that i could be happier right now, but i feel like there is sooo much going on. i have to move in less than 2 weeks.. and have a lot or organising to do.. when im just alone.. me and the sprout i feel good and happy about it, but other times i wonder if this is the right thing to do right now.. of course im going to have this baby whether or not my family hates and dissowns me, but it just might be sad for us. maybe ill move to the moon.

im also feeling sick sick sick. blah!

 

 

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Fern, I looked at your pictures. You and your child are gorgeous!! I mean, seriously. I hope this pregnancy isn't too lonely for you. Too bad you don't live in Ohio. We could hang out!

Anyway, my residential saga continues. I think DH and I have just decided to give notice at our current house of tiny-ness and hope for the best. If nothing comes up in Yellow Springs (where we hope to live) we may just rent one of those big fancy schmancy apartments. At least DH wouldn't have to mow the lawn anymore. :LOL I found one that even has an attached garage, so the only thing we'd be sacrificing is a private yard. Considering my dog can't stand to be more than 10 feet away from me (and that we've lived in apartments her whole life, with the exception of this past year), I am pretty sure it's something we will adjust to. But who knows; maybe our dream house will become available in the next couple of weeks. I can dream, right?

DH left for a 3-week business trip today, so I am going to be lonely and he's going to miss my first midwife appointment. But he will be here for the first ultrasound in a few weeks, so that'll be good. We can celebrate together, or be sad together. Either way I'll need him there.

OK I'm rambling. Back to work.

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i'm here...Starting to feel queasy in the evenings--like I'm hungry but nothing appeals to me. And when I do eat, I feel sick afterward. So, I've been lazing around the house mostly.

We might be moving out of state (won't know for sure til next week or so), so I understand the frustration of ya'll with housing issues. I don't like not being able to picture where I'll be when I have the baby, ykim?

Been researching cloth diapers, so that's been fun. Trying to think how to get my MIL on board so she'll help me create a stash (instead of buying us all sorts of junky stuff we don't need!) I can't wait to see the look on her face when I tell her about cloth
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hiya amy! we went through the same thing last year (and the year before, actually)... we finally did just give notice and at the last second the lower unit of a beautiful old house became available. so we have our yard (putting up a clothesline between our two lone trees this week! yay!) and the house has so much character. i'm not a big fan of our neighbors but we don't see very much of them which is alright with me. of course, now that we're expecting number three and this is a two bedroom (and the boys room is TINY) we've already outgrown it! anyway, i'm sure a beautiful place will turn up for you just in time. :

we called everyone yesterday and told them... everyone was really excited, which is saying a lot considering most of our friends are single and childless... most are still in college. my FIL, however, completely rained on my baby parade by saying, "oh? is this a good thing? well, fine then. i guess you two are adults and had to be doing something with your time." : he's really an insensitive jerk sometimes.

speaking of insensitive jerks... is anyone else's dh or dp suddenly acting like babies are a curse and not a blessing? mine has been so distant since yesterday and moping around looking crushed. we talked a little last night and he thinks that it's wrong for him to be a parent of so many children (*THREE* is so many? i'm the oldest of 7, so maybe i'm the one with the skewed view...) when he basically grew up an only child and doesn't know how to be a dad. (which is crap, because he's wonderful with the boys...) i don't know. he's definitely pulling the "you wanted this" and making me feel guilty like i spontaneously impregnated myself without his knowledge! anyway. i'm really trying not to lose it on him but i can feel my hormones slipping more and more out of my control and i'm just hoping we don't have some sort of marital explosion.

anyway. that was a whole lot longer than intended. sorry about that! how's everyone's evening going?
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I am so tired. Starting to get really sick and emotional. And work is killing me. We are in the last stages of finishing the state budget and the long hours and the stress are SOOO HARD! Today will be our 4th long day in a row. At least Sunday and Monday night I was able to work from home. But I did not see DS at all yesterday, except for a little while in the morning, because I went in late. I had to be here at 7 (actually got here at 6:30 because I was anticipating traffic that wasnt there) and will not leave until God knows when. So I will not see him again today. And then tomorrow, I will be gone again before he wakes up (but hopefully without the long night.) I miss my boy. Just thinking of him waking up this morning and asking DH "Where's mama" makes me want to cry. And then thinking about him asking it again tonight.

And the worst is that I can't tell my coworkers that I am pregnant yet. So I am trying to stay focused when all I want to do is crawl in a ball and sleep. I don't want to start answering questions about whether I will be around for the next legilative session (next Jan-Mar), which I wont.

Just one more day (we think). But I think this one day will be the straw that breaks my back.

Oh and I have been getting slightly sicker every day. Each day is a test of wills whether I will throw up or not.

OK, thanks for letting me whine. DH is a good listener, but he's been under pressure, having to pick up my slack, lately too.

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Bensmom, hang in there. Just one more day! I've been getting more nauseated and irritable every day too. I find myself VERY emotionally over-reactive to everything, and even if I cognitively know there is no reason to be that upset, can't close the floodgaetes. One of my girlfriends said it's only get to get worse. Great!

I've been getting headaches a lot too. I didn't with pregnancy #1. Is that common? I still have a pretty good appetite most of the time, but am getting to the point where very little sounds appealing.

I have been having crazy bizarre dreams the past few nights and I've also dreamt twice that I went to the bathroom and discovered spotting. I hope those aren't premonitions.

God I sound so negative! Sorry. I hope everyone is doing OK.

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well, i had an interesting morning...

was feeling queasy last night so I went to bed early....got up this morning feeling fine and decided to make some french toast. As i was standing over the frying pan, I felt sick so went into the bathroom and stood over the sink. I dry-heaved a few times (nothing in my stomach to actually throw up) and then next thing I knew I was on the floor. I think i bonked my head on the edge of the tub going down. I wasn't out long and felt fine after (except for the queasiness).

DH is out of town for work so I had my mom come over to keep an eye on me. She ran out to the store to get me some food and I ate some chicken and ice cream around lunch time. Now I feel pretty good.

Hoping it was just low blood sugar and my body telling me i need to eat (more protein, especially, i think)...Mom is going going to check back in on me and my in-laws have called 3 times today My husband is worried, understandbly, since he can't be here.

Wondering now if i shoud've gone to the Dr. or the ER or something (it sounds worse writing it here than it seemed at the time)...but i'm just trying to trust my body...i really think it was b/c of eating so little lately because of the nausea. has this happened to anyone else?
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I haven't passed out ever while vomiting, but boy have I had some doosies! Wetting myself, etc.

Anyway, my sister has this thing where under extreem stress (such as labor or severe sickness) she passes out. With her, it's almost a siezure, but she just feels like she passed out for a moment. Is this your first baby? Other than letting the doctors know about it, there's nothing harmful about her passing out, just try to take it slowly. Protein helps, gives you some needed energy!

Good luck, and I wouldn't worry unless it starts happening regularly.
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Wow beachbaby, that's scary! Maybe it was low blood sugar related? Can you eat crackers or something immediately upon waking?

We have had a bizarre & scary week so far.
While we were out on Monday, someone broke into our bathroom window & stole a bunch of our possesions (laptop, digital camera, telescope, a rifle (!), cds etc.). Thank the godlies we have renter's insurance & we'll replace our material things, but the very worst thing is this:

*My kids should have been home*.
I started working as a day care provider for a co-op in Berkeley 4 mos. ago, just after we moved here. My parter ("DP", right?) was working at home the majority of the time so the kids were home alone only sometimes (they are 13.5 & nearly 7). A couple weeks ago my DP was laid off & with his new job he began last week, he doesn't get to work at home. SooOOo, starting last week the kids are home alone the 20 hours that I'm at work. I really didn't love it, I had paranoid thoughts a lot, but I figured "I'm going to give notice in 4 mos. anyway because I'm pg, they'll be just fine til then". Now, I'm far too terrified to leave them home alone all those hours ever again!!!

My dd just happened to be visiting her friend that day so I took my ds to work with me. In the 4 mos. I've worked there, that has never happened. What are the odds that a terrible person would come into our house on THAT DAY, the only day my kids weren't home??! Isn't that scary as all get out?? I can't stand all of the "what ifs" in my head (What if they'd been home??? Our house is up in the hills, the neighbor's wouldn't hear any screams, ug, terrifying).

So, the point of all of this is, I'm going to give 2 wk notice tomorrow. My co-op families have no idea. They're babies *love* me, they're so attached to me & me to them, I will feel very sad, & I know for a fact the families will so SOOOOOOO disappointed. And during those weeks I'll bring my kids to work with me or they'll be at their dads. I will be extremely excited to be a SAHM again, but right now mostly I'm feeling guilty & sad for quitting, & completely creeped out by the stupid burglar.

So anyway, I know this is a giant post, I really needed to vent, thank you to anyone that listened!


And on a *completely* different subject- I can't wear ANY of my pants anymore already!! I swear, I look 4 mos. pg. It's bizarre & ridiculous!! I'm wearing maternity pants! I guess it's a 3rd pregnancy thing, but GEEZ, I know the baby's about the size of a sesame seed, WHAT does it need all that space for??? :LOL

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zjande, oh my lord! i am so sorry! and thank god your kids weren't home... what an amazing twist of fate that was. i would totally do the same thing though (quitting early to stay at home). i'd be completely paranoid, i couldn't keep working either. sounds like that was a really hard decision... i'm sorry you were put in a position to have to leave early. stupid people! causing someone all this stress for some stupid stuff. i don't understand people sometimes. anyway, so glad you had insurance and that your kiddos are okay.

(and my pants don't fit either... my belly popped right out a few days ago, and without warning. i've been wearing some very out of date skirts until i can get my maternity stuff out of storage. :LOL)
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What are seabands? I am so grumpy! I can not stand myself and all I want to do is sleep!
The high of pg went away and now I am a pain in the tuckos.
I miss dh who is working out of town- and will be often during this pg ....
And I am dreading my 9 hour drive tomorrow with ds to my mom and dads
UGh- I could go on and on!
Plus my grandma is dying and going into a coma state- and no one is with her at the retirement home because they are busy at my aunts house making up a video of pictures for her memorial!
PRIORITIES PEOPLE!
Makes me want to knock some heads!
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hi, all--I am feeling better today (no more passing out!) and have been eating every few hours to keep my blood sugar up. Meagan--thanks for the encouragement--I will keep an eye on things and definitely take some action if it happens again...

zjande--how scary! Unbelievable what people will do. my apartment building has a locked foyer, but tennants leave it open all the time so anyone could walk in....Also, my landlord just rented (again!) to a known drug-dealer's relative. DH is in law enforcement and has actually arrested this person who now knows where we live *and* has access to our building.

Emilie--Seabands are those metal bracelet type things that put pressure (right?) on your wrists to keep motion sickness at bay. Thinking about trying them myself for the nausea.
I'm sorry about your grandmother.
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Emilie, sorry sister!! People seem to suck so much more when you are pregnant. I had a long talk with DH last night explaining to him that he's going to have to suck it up and not expect me to act like a normal person because of the hormones and stuff. It's so hard to describe to someone what it feels like to not really be in control of your emotions. :

Aubrey, I am so sorry to hear about your scary break-in! Thank god your kids were not home. It reminded me of something that happened when I was a kid - my brother (3 yrs older than me) and I were raised by our dad, and we lived WAAAAY up in the hills with no neighbors. One day we were all out, and we came back to find that our house had been broken into and similar kinds of things were stolen (loose money, a b.b. gun that looked like a rifle, a stereo thing, etc.). Turns out, it was a teenager who lived down the hill from us, and she (yes, she!!) took the stuff to pawn or whatever, to make some money. I wanted to tell you this because it may be the case that it was just some non-violent person looking for a quick way to get some money. Perhaps it wasn't a coincidence that your kids weren't home; maybe the thief knew that no one was home that day and decided to sieze the opportunity to break in while the house was empty. I am just telling you this because it might ease your mind to think that your kids really weren't in danger. Not that you shouldn't keep them with you now and/or quit your job. I'm just sayin.'

Anyway, I am in a great mood today. I'm 5W exactly, and today the baby's heart should begin to beat!!!! When I woke up this morning, it took a minute for me to remember that I am pregnant, and when I did, I just got this huge smile on my face. I love it! Plus, the sun is shining and it's finally starting to get warm, the sky is blue....I can almost believe Winter might come to an end someday. I am definitely ready for capris and flip-flops.

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When I woke up this morning, it took a minute for me to remember that I am pregnant, and when I did, I just got this huge smile on my face. I love it! .
I so know what you mean! Isn't that the best feeling?
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Hi Mamas,
Just reading over the chit chat and realizing how nice it is that we all have such diverse ways to live life... and yet here we are all gloriously expecting! Yippie.

I am starting to feel more sick, though today, oddly, I had so much to do that I felt really good. In some cultures women do not get morning sickness, and I have been trying to 'talk myself out of it' as it were. I bought some knock-off seabands (travel-ease) and frankly dont think they work. DH has asked me a couple times already if I am going to get my $11 back (he's cheap but I love him) but i want to give them a few more days trial. Of course now that I am settled in some quiet time I am starting to not feel so hot. Maybe I just need to stay really busy.

Beachbaby, I was very interested in you post. I do not want to sound alarmist, but I would keep track of any future 'spells' and for sure call a doc if you feel disoriented, fatigued, or sleep excessively after a 'spell'. I say this because when I was pg with DD, I had a couple seizures when at around 7 months, and though it did not negatively impact my pg or the child, it needed medical attention. Apparently my brain reacted oddly to the wash of wonderful pg hormones. My seizures were noctural, which was great for me (I was asleep, what did I know) but freaky for DH. I took medication for the last couple months before I had dd and then for a year following. I am hoping that since i am still nursing, my brain adapted to more hormones and we won't have the same experience this time around.

Gee, I am rambling... hope all you ladies are feeling good. I haven't told any friends I'm expecting so let me just get it out of my system: I'm pregnant!! Woo Hoo! Here's looking to delightful days until 11/11, and then baby bliss following!

I feel better now, thanks!
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Hi, everyone. I haven't posted here yet because for some reason I'm irrationally worried about m/c this time. I've been spotting off and on for two weeks. But today I had an u/s and everything looks fine.

I'm 7 weeks today. Baby measured 6w,5d and heart rate was 114. It was so great to see that little sac with a little blob in it and that heart ticking away. I feel much better now.

Still no belly but I'm tall and long waisted. I do feel however, that I'm already past nausea and into the super-hungry phase. I was only nauseous for one week! Now I'm onto super-hungry? Anyone else experienced this?
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Natalie, I'm glad your ultrasound went well. I have a friend who was only nauseated for a week or so. It went up to about 16 weeks for me last time, so I'm not going to get my hopes up!


Got my progesterone results back today - 30!!! I also have an ultrasound in 3 weeks.
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Oh man, morning sickness is just awful. Ha, morning. It's been all day sickness, which so far is worse than with DS. I was usually fine by lunchtime with him. The past two days have been so hard. But at least I can still eat and drink. If I eat, I feel better for a few minutes. But then it's back to nausea. I even tried to throw up his morning. Well, not tried. I just didnt fight it when I was in the bathroom, and all I did was dry heave. I can't just eat all the time - I'm already overweight and was hoping to maintain/loose a little during this pregnancy.

Anyway, just wanted to whine. I wish I could talk myself out of it. But it's just this constant yuck feeling. I hope it doesnt get any worse. Please, please, no.

Still trying to stay positive and LOOOVE this pregnancy, but nausea and exhaustion are not making it easy.

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I just got my today. Based on my LMP my EDD is 11/27 but based on how long my pregnancies usually go, I think this one will wait until December. Should I stay here or go over to December?
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I say, stay with both discussions. I'm in a similar situation, although I'm sure this little bean won't come until November, so I've committed to this board

I've come to confess that I wore my maternity pants in public. 8 weeks and 4 days, and I'm in maternity Although they don't have that panel in the front, so don't look completely maternity. Oh well, might as well get used to them... I'm sure I'll wear them alot in the next seven months!

Oh, and I can't wait to feel good. I feel better, but can't wait to actually feel good!
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Thank you guys for your understanding & reassurances (AND for even reading my giant story!) about our break-in. I JUST gave notice to my job, as in I just hit "send" on my 2 weeks notice email to all my childcare co-op families that I work for. For a couple days I was having mostly negative emotions about it, guilt for quitting & sadness over how much the kids will miss me. But after thinking & thinking & thinking it to death (& chanting "It's OK! People quit their jobs everyday! I'm *excited* to be a sahm!" in my head the whole time), I'm now feeling mostly excitement. And it's true, people DO quit everyday & the world is NOT coming to an end, I WILL get through this! Haha, do I have guilt issues much?? :LOL

It's sucked, as the days are going by we keep discovering more things that are missing. And it took the Oakland police THREE DAYS to respond to our call. Three. Whole. Days. to come to complete a residential burglary report. "Do you want us to dust for prints?" they asked. HAHAHA! Like there would even BE any prints left after 3 whole days!! :

ANYway, I am now loving my time with my mamas on MDC, trying to take my mind off my notice I just sent out, & thinking about my wee sproutling that I cannot believe I have been blessed enough to be carrying in my belly!!! It's heart started beating yesterday. That gave me tears.

The 4 of us were being our usual total dorks last night & talking about baby names. It started out as a serious discussion, but we ended up in hysterics after names like "Pancreas" & "Sherman Eggbert Marvin Kermit" & "Spermatozoa" started to be suggested. OMG we are goofy. My DP says through giggles "What spirit actually CHOSE to come grow in your belly??" "One with a sense of humor!" says I.

Dreamsindigital, I think you should post in both forums!

Nataliekat! Me too! I was super nauseas for only about a week, then just mildly nauseas unless my blood sugar's all low, but I firmly moved into Starvation At All Times phase this past week!! Pretty much what I do all day is pee & eat, pee & eat, then take a nap til I have to pee. :LOL

I'm glad you're feeling better beachbaby! Just keep eating all the freaking time like me & nataliekat & you should be just fine!

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