(FTR, I believe in God/dess, with a mix of beliefs sort of from lots of religions. I draw alot from Christianity, but alot from paganism too. )
I just got the kids from my ex, and we had a little thing happen. Ugghh. Riley had this little soap my mom gave him from our store. It is a bright blue soap on a ribbon from an angel mold, that was a Christmas ornament. Fairly innocous (sp?) and I, who am pretty sensitive to overbearingly religios crap, had no thoughts one way or the other about this soap ornament. It seriously never even dawned on me anything about it being a religios icon or anything. JUST a piece of soap that my son likes.
Well on friday the kids took it with them to their dads, they often take one toy or something to bring from home. This morning my ex comes up to me all pissed and said "don't send this crap over here ever again, I will not have it in my house!!!" I said... "Adam. It's a peice of soap." To which he and his gf got all pissy and bug eyed at me. So when I gave the soap back to the kids Addie says to me "We can't take that to Daddy's house, it's propaganda, and propaganda isn't allowed at daddys house. " I tried to talk to her a little bit, but she got really upset and was just adamant that her soap was propaganda. I asked her if she knew what propaganda was and she said "When someone tries to make someone else do something that is bad for them" and told me again that it's bad and not allowed at Daddy's house
So here is my problem. I agree with them that there is alot of religious propaganda, especially in our area. I agree that we should teach our kids to be wise and think through everything they hear, etc. But their is so much illogic thinking and intolerant hysteria that the kids are exposed to when they go over there, it's as bad in my mind as the fundies at some of the churches. I tried to talk to her a bit about logical thinking. That that soap is just soap, what it represents can be one thing to one person and one thing to another, that "people" COULD use religious icons as propaganda, but that doesn't make the icon itself evil. ETC. I think that she already was pretty talked out on the subject because she said "I learned enough about propaganda, Mom..." So I have dropped it for now, but I really want to know how to address this in the future. I wish that he could have just told her "I don't believe in Angels" or I believe this...." instead of handeling it this way. It's always like this though. I got on wikipedia and found lots of great info on what propaganda is, and isn't etc. But it's all a bit old for them. Any ideas on a simple, non threatening way to discuss this with them? Thankfully they still like their fave soap! (Not because it's an angel. I think you guys know me pretty well by now. I could care less if it has an angel or a star of david, or a spiral, or an om symbol, I just get fed up with people that think they are SO progressive and accepting and tolerant except when it comes to anything close to christianity.
I've cross posted this elsewhere.... I just thought I should post here as well!
Shelley, mom to dd 5/19/01, ds 9/06/02, and ds 4/01/07. Lost babe 4/09