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Hi!  Thanks for your interest, it is kind of funny to me.  This whole thing has taken me by surprise, I've been living in my other city for over a year and as an adult, have never wanted a cat as a pet... so, I just wasn't expecting anything like this.  I cancelled his Saturday vet appt b'c I ended up having to be here for an inspection for the house, and I've decided to go with a vet who does house calls come to my house this week and check for parasites and see about vax's.  I prefer no vax, but he's going to live with my dog, so I want to be safe.  Next year after he's an indoor guy, I'll read more about skipping vax or minimal vax and go from there.  I do feel a dedication to this cat and he looks much better after just a few weeks of care and getting to sleep indoors and not having to be on high alert sleeping outside.  I'll read about how to post photos from my iPhone b'c he really is cute, sleeps in the craziest positions.

 

So far, he still hasn't used his litter box, despite me putting him in it every time he asks to go out to use the bathroom.  Right now, I'm going with his lead as far as letting him be on the harness and walking by him in the yard until he goes pee or poo.  I have tried attaching the leash but most times, I put the harness without the leash and walk next to him, to get him completely used to it.  The closing date has been pushed up a little, so we still have about a month here.  I think at this point, I'm letting go of the idea of finding another home for him, he seems to really like being with me.  And I enjoy being around him too!  I've woken up a few times this past week to find him sleeping next to me.  His carrier came and he's been napping in it a few times and the relaxing herbs arrived but I haven't tried them out on him yet.  I received the relaxing phermone collar as well, but haven't opened it.  I've been researching gates and ways to keep him confined to one room in my city apartment.  I have a few moving boxes stacked near a window here and he loves to lay up there and watch stuff outside.  He's up there most of his time.  Even when I open the front door and ask him if he wants to go out, he just stays on his window seat wagging his tail and looking at me, pretty funny.  I burnt popcorn the other day and he came running into the kitchen meowing very loudly, he's like a little alarm system, lol, he also has to go check out any noises that happen around the house, also pretty funny.  He really sort of dog-like in personality.  Or maybe cats are just like that, my cats that I had in my childhood didn't act like this one much at all.

 

That's what's been going on for this little guy so far, I'll keep updating as we go and I'm most nervous about how he'll do traveling and adjusting to a city apartment.  Hopefully it will all just fall into place like it has so far!  I'm still very appreciative of ideas and suggestions if anyone has anything else to share with me.  :)   Thanks to everyone who shared ideas already.


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If you can take him I would totally encourgae you to! I'm totally a dog person to! I have 5, but I also have 2 cats that I didn't really want either. One was from a litter of feral kittens that a lady found in a barn and no shelter would take them. So I did and taught them all to trust people, then kept one! He is now an indoor only cat and gets totaly freaked out when he's outside!! 

 

Also my first cat (that passed away) was a leash walker! Your cat sounds like he just might be laid back enough to do it. I had a HUGE long haired black cat that I walked around my neighborhood on a leash... let me tell you its nothing like a dog (cats don't just walk straight down the side walk) lol! But if they are up for it its fun!! 


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So, the cat has decided that slipping free from the harness is a neat trick.  I finally attached the leash and that seems to freak him out, so he backs up and slips out of the harness.  I had been using a small dog harness b'c people on a cat site recommended that.  It kind of fit him in a strange way, so maybe thats why he can slip out of it.  I ordered and just received the cat Walking Jacket and also got a cat's Gentle Leader Follow Me Kitty or something cat harness with a lightweight bungee style leash.  I feel ridiculous, but I am pretty afraid that if the cat escapes, either my apartment or his leash while walking outside, it could be really dangerous for him in my other city.  And, to leave him here seems terrible as well.  Still conflicted.  He digs his carrier, naps in it sometimes.

 

He's peed in the catbox during the night twice so far, so that's progress!  Never a mess outside of his box in the house.  He always goes to the door and meows to go pee or poo, then comes back within 20 mins or so.

 

I used Frontline + on him on March 7th, but I still notice a random flea, I've not been able to pick them out, his fur is too thick.  Its also too thick and soft for the flea comb to get to the fles, then the flea disappears into his undercoat.  Any ideas on what else I can use?  I have some cedar and some peppermint oils here and have read about people using them (diluted) to treat fleas.  The cat seems to hate the scent tho, anyone have experience with this?  Or other ideas?

 

Oh, one other thing... I had to cancel his last vet appt b'c of an unexpected meeting, I have a mobile vet coming to check him out this Friday morning.  I'm still unsure of it's gender!  I'll post again after the vet appt.


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You can google gender online and sex the cat pretty easily if it is an adult. I don't think it is THAT difficult, unless you are dealing with a young kitten. There IS a difference, just google it until you feel you can tell the pics apart and then take a look under the hood of your cat friend.

 

As far as the fur--use a Furminator brush. It WILL get out the excess fur and fleas. It is expensive, about 20 or 30 dollars, and worth EVERY penny.

 

As far as the leash just keep trying. It takes time. I leash trained my cats and it took over a month and one of them refused to walk normally. She walks swayback as though a small person is sitting on her back! It is her form of protest against the leash.

 


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Thanks heartmama, yeah, I can't really see any sort of genetalia at all, he/she has a really thick undercoat but sleeps on his back and there is nothing visible but tons of fur.  My guess was a neutered male or a female.  The reason I was thinking male is that my neighbor who has a bazillion cats said he is 99% sure its a neutered male... but, I don't remember what my male cats looked like from childhood.  I know with my male and female dogs, the difference is very obvious.  Hopefully if its female, the vet can tell me if she's been spayed already.  My guess would be that she is, considering that it was living outdoors for about a year and doesn't seem pregnant.

 

The furminator looks great and several people on cat sites recommended that too.  It is very pricey but with all of this fur, I'm masking taping everything a few times per day, along with regular brushing and there are still little hair balls floating across the floor daily!  Crazy amount of hair on the guy/girl.

 

Well, thx again for the help.  I'll update on Friday.

 

Oh, another question.  I was reading that its not a good idea to feed all dry food b'c it makes the cat dehydrated and need more water but can eventually lead to kidney issues.  And that feeding too much wet food can lead to dental issues and also weight issues.  SO, I bought some hormone free chicken thighs in an attempt to add some to the dry that I've been feeding it.  But he doesn't like it.  I tried drizzling it with tuna juice b'c I'd read that giving tuna meat is also not good and can lead to other health problems but that chicken thigh meat is good for cats and you can use tuna juice to help them eat the chicken meat.  I tried raw and then cooked, he doesn't like it.  What can I do to get him to eat some chicken meat along with it's dry food?  Ideas?  I would love to go all raw diet but I don't think that would fly with this cat, not yet anyway.

 

The sore on it's face finally healed!  And the sore on his paw was gone within the first week of him being indoors here.  No new injuries or sore spots so thats great!  And his fur looks better, but that could be just from having food and water available and being brushed daily.  He's a neat cat.

 

I'll upload some photos later today.

 


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It's a male cat!  Already neutered.  Around 2 years old, vet looked at his teeth.  14.8 pounds!!  (going on a little diet)  No feline AIDS, no parasites, no heart worms, no feline Leukemia.  He got a few vax's that the airline needs him to have in order to fly in-cabin with me.  He's still not wanting to use the catbox, always goes and site by the front door to go do his business, then wants right back in, runs playfully to the fron door to go back in, it's funny.  Still digging his carrier, takes naps in it occasionally.  He's not crazy about the Walking Jacket for cats, but doesn't mind the Gentle Lead Follow Me Kitty harness... still a little freaked out by the leash "following him" lol.

 

I'm going to see how he does with my dog who is already living in my other city, and see how he handles living with me in my apartment.  And if it doesn't seem good then I'll foster him until I can find a very good forever home for him.  At this point, he's so chill and it seems like he and the dog will be buds.  I feel like he'll probably stay with me for the rest of his life.

 

Thank you all for all of your help, suggestions and ideas!  I'll post again in a month or so and tell you how he handled the flight and how he's doing in his new city.


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I never commented on your post, but thank you!  Very encouraging to read.  Your cats sound beautiful.  This cat is pretty large too.  He is doing well with trust but I can tell he's been scared before in his life.  He did great during the vet visit, didn't try to claw anyone or bite or run away, didn't even meow during the blood draw or fecal test!  He meowed once while we were waiting to finish the paperwork, lol.  I was pretty impressed, he seemed to know they were trying to help him, or something.  Cats.  Who knew?!?!

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If you can take him I would totally encourgae you to! I'm totally a dog person to! I have 5, but I also have 2 cats that I didn't really want either. One was from a litter of feral kittens that a lady found in a barn and no shelter would take them. So I did and taught them all to trust people, then kept one! He is now an indoor only cat and gets totaly freaked out when he's outside!! 

 

Also my first cat (that passed away) was a leash walker! Your cat sounds like he just might be laid back enough to do it. I had a HUGE long haired black cat that I walked around my neighborhood on a leash... let me tell you its nothing like a dog (cats don't just walk straight down the side walk) lol! But if they are up for it its fun!! 



 


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What a fabulous update!  i'm so excited for you and your new cat.  Does he have a name yet?  Also, I'm sure I'm not the only one who is still waiting for pictures. ;)

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*edited out photos for privacy... figured they've been up long enough  :)

 

Most of the photos I've snapped of him were with my phone, and I had some problems with sending them to my email, had to go back and reset some stuff... sorry the pictures were teasing you!  Here are a few, adorable isn't he?  He likes to lay on his back on the couch and watch the squirrels and birds up in the canopy of trees above our front yard.  Its pretty funny, he'll lay like that for a long time, with only his eyes following the animals and his tail wagging, so funny.  As you can see, he probably was a total indoor cat with his previous owner.

 

I had logged in here to say that he's been kind of weird today, hasn't moved at all from his bed and pooped for the first time ever in his box last night.  Could it be a reaction from the vax's??  His bed is a couple of moving boxes stacked by the window and he's been alert and watching the animals and everything but he just hasn't moved from there in about 5 hours, since I got up.  Hasn't gone for food or water.  Is he fine?


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When I've had my cats vaxed, they are pretty sluggish for a couple of days. Keep an eye on him. They are stealthy drinkers--it's easy to miss mine at the water bowl!

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Thank you for the pictures! He is a very handsome guy, and so laid back too.  I hope he is feeling like himself very soon.  I bet the vaxes are slowing him down a bit.  Now he just needs a name.

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Well, I feel terrible for doing this to him. He feels warm to the touch.   He's in pain when he tries to walk anywhere, he cries and keeps his back legs bent and hunches to the floor, moves a few inches and gives up.  So I tried to pick him up to carry him outside to see if he had to pee and he cried and then growled.  He did pee a little then sat down in the pee, like it hurt him to squat or to move.  He hasn't eaten and the only thing he's had to drink was about 3 licks of some tuna juice all day.  

 

I called the vet about an hour ago and told him all of this to see what he could do and he told me to give him a baby aspirin and if he's still like this tomorrow that he'd pass by and look at him.  This poor cat!  I really hope this didn't injure him permanently or make him really sick.  I hope he's fine very soon and not in pain, there's no way I could get a baby aspirin in him, he cries when I try to pet him and won't even touch tuna.

 

If anyone has ideas or experience with this, I'd be very appreciative to hear it.  His shots were around 5:pm yesterday, its been about 24 hours since his appointment right now.

 

I won't be doing vaccinations again if this is what it does to him.  He really looks and sounds like he feels really bad.  :(


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if you are concerned about food intake you could try cooking some chicken and giving it to him or even, a very very small amount of heavy cream...It is actually easier for them to digest than just milk...Generally giving cats dairy just leads to lots of watery poop but some cats can tolerate it very well and it is a good calorie/fat boost in a very small amount.

 

The only way my mother nursed her cat back from the brink of death (she was starving when she found her) was to give her as much heavy cream as she could lick up. 

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Thank you for the ideas.  I tried cooking him some chicken last week and he didn't want any, so that probably wouldn't fly.  He didn't want cream tonight yet but I'll keep trying that b'c he did give it a good sniff before turning it down.  Poor guy, he just seems so miserable.  If this is a common vaccine reaction, people should be told that it could happen, b'c I would have figured out something else to do besides giving them to him.  Or at least staggered them.  He had FELV, Rabies and FVRCP yesterday.  Bah, I should have gone with my gut and only gotten the Rabies one, which he needed for the flight.  The vet told me that "he really should have" the others if I'm taking him somewhere as public and frequented by other animals such as an airport and a plane.  I'm totally kicking myself.  I really hope he just starts feeling good again very soon.  I wish I could feel this for him, since I'm the one who chose to do it!  Anyway, thanks again for the cream idea... I'll try it again soon, let you know if it works for him.
 

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if you are concerned about food intake you could try cooking some chicken and giving it to him or even, a very very small amount of heavy cream...It is actually easier for them to digest than just milk...Generally giving cats dairy just leads to lots of watery poop but some cats can tolerate it very well and it is a good calorie/fat boost in a very small amount.

 

The only way my mother nursed her cat back from the brink of death (she was starving when she found her) was to give her as much heavy cream as she could lick up. 



 


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Oh poor kitty! This is not a common reaction, I'd say this is a really really really bad reaction. I'm surprised they won't see him today. He might need rehydrating subcutaneously. Someone might've already said this, but try strained baby food. Take the chicken and add some cream or water and stick it in a blender/food processor. That might help, but he sounds like he's just flat out miserable.

 

We do rabies and feline distemper, only because A) we have a kid so need the rabies just in case one of his friends gets the business end of a cat--so far no problems with that and B) we do fostering and some of the feral kittens from Kentucky come up with nasty upper respiratory infections. Our vet is a very anti-vax if you can get away with it kinda guy. During our pre-child and apartment dwelling years, we did not vax at all. We've never had to fly with our furry babies though.

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Is he grooming at all?  If he is, then one way to get things into his stomach is to put it on his fur, so he'll lick it off. 

 

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Hi, Thanks you guys.  I came to update that as of around noon today he picked up energy and is walking normally now, not hunched over or crying.  He ate a half of a small can of Fancy Feast chicken feast classic with a teaspoon of fish oil that I mixed up with it.  He would lick at it then come back and eat a little more and finally now he's eaten a half of those pop-top tiny cans, but I'm taking that as fantastic progress.  His sides are sensitive, when he tries to lie down he struggles to decide which side and then finally lays but it takes him a few to settle into the position.  Is he just constipated?  I read that the fish oil would help with that since its what I read last night.  I'm glad he ate some, maybe he'll poo and feel better.  He hasn't poo'd since Tuesday right after the vet appointment at 5pm.  Maybe the fecal stimulated a poo, but he hasn't eaten much since then either.  

 

ALso, when I had a hand very lightly on his right side at any time yesterday or late last night, I could feel a spasm type of vibration and he would get really protective of where my hand was and cried if I put any more pressure than lightly touching the fur.  Could he have had some liver issue from the vaxs?  Today he lets me pet his sides but still lays down carefully and has not laid on his back, like in all of the photos, since the vet visit.  I'm really perplexed and want to help him.

 

Is it common to miss some kind of intestinal worm if a fecal reads negative?  I read that it can happen and his belly has always been distended since I met him (1.5 months ago).  Should I take him for another exam or just give him something for worms??  Is it dangerous to give a worm treatment if he is actually negative for parasites?

 

Netgyks, I hear you.  I don't care for or choose vaxs, usually.  Our dogs only ever had/have them randomly (typically Rabies only) if they need to be at a free run dog sitter's for the weekend but they usually road trip it with us anyway.  I've read of too many negative reactions and long term sarcomas related with vaccinations.  Ugh.  I will def not be doing this again.  I'm on a budget and moving and am without a car here, so when this vet said he'd waive his house call visit fee to come and get us ready for the trip all at once, since he was a stray, I was desperate and agreed to his ideas.  I waived my own gut instinct of only fecal check and Rabies vax in the process.  And poor kitty paid the price.  Sux.

 

He is seeming better now, tonight, thank goodness.  Hopefully he'll take a good poo soon and feel great again.  His big tummy was diagnosed as him being overweight, but his belly also feels medium to hard, to the touch.  He has a little "fat pad" that is mushy, but his belly part has always felt full, if that makes sense.  Anyone have experience with this stuff, that can help me figure out if he's fine and overweight, or if it's an undetected parasite or something else that I need to get him tested again for??

 

Thanks everyone!  I'm grateful for your advice and suggestions and help, and support!  Still some unanswered questions so maybe someone out there has dealt with their own cat and similar stuff??  Hopefully not, but, yk, if you have it would help to hear about it.


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Really, I know my kitten tested negative for fecal but then finally the vet gave him a dewormer "just to be safe." He had bad loose stool and then, voila! He looked so much healthier, glossier, and started growing fur on his belly. I think most rescues do dewormer as a matter of course, I would at least bring it up with your vet. He sounds pretty miserable, poor baby! Is it possible he ate some non-food item?

I really would take him in and insist that they deworm him. I don't think it can cause any lasting damage, just maybe some digestive trouble but he's already got that.

 



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Yeah, Ok, I'll get the vet back here and ask for a dewormer.  He was living outdoors in a neighborhood with wild birds, raccoons, opossums and several other homeless cats for at least 10 months or so.  And he had fleas when I first took him in.  I thought the negative fecal was kind of odd, given all of that, but trusted the test.  Then read that they are often wrong.

 

He still hasn't poo'd, but he has eaten most of the other half of the Fancy Feast can and drank a tiny bit of some tuna flavored water.  His energy is good, purring and grooming himself.  I tried the Laxitone but he hates it and won't touch it.  I tried putting it on his paw when we first met and he didn't lick it off, just ran around like a madman, trying to fling it off of himself.  So I don't want to do that to him when he's feeling bad.


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take him. it's deplorable that his last owners abandoned him, but kudos to you for looking after him.

 

people don't seem to fully understand this, but cats are domesticated animals. sure, it only takes a couple generations for them to revert to a feral state, but it still is generations, not months of a single cat's life. this cat became attached to another human really quickly... that means that he really craves that human relationship, and short of finding him another home in your neighbourhood, the only right thing to do is to take him with you.

 

he will have to become an indoor cat when you move to the city. it really would be criminal to ever let him outdoors again, in that environment particularly. he may miss the outdoors a little, but to him, having a human companion and caregiver are more important than hunting and roaming. letting him outdoors in the city is a guaranteed way to get him run over, poisoned, attacked or lost. indoor cats are capable of having very fulfilling and happy lives. toys, good food, your company... that is all he really wants. if you think you will be away a lot due to work or school, you might consider adopting another cat with the right temperament when you get to your new home. cats to enjoy the company of other cats.

 

good luck! he seems like an awesome cat, and i'm sure he will adapt just fine to the new situation and lifestyle.


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He is cute, glad you kept him and took care of him.  

 


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Yeah, he is very cute.  He's like Cat of Green Gables, it was his personality that hooked me in ;)  Well, that and the fact that he's too chill to survuve long outside on his own.  The sore on his face is gone, maybe I wrote that already?  I think the fish oil I've been adding to his food is helping his fur, he looks even fluffier since last week.

 

He's been acting completely back to normal these past few days.  Laying on his back again a lot.  Purring a lot and moving around the same as before his vax ordeal.  His belly is still full feeling, but he's been back to poo'ing at least once a day like he was before the shots.  I've been trying to find a natural wormer.  I'm so hesitant to introduce any sort of chemical wormer into his body after seeing what the vax's did to the poor guy.  Anyone used pumpkin seed powder?  Or I already have some food grade diatomaceous earth, but with that he has to eat it for 60 days straight or it can cause problems or be ineffective.  Anyone have experience or other wormer ideas for us??  Thx!


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Just checking in.  How did the relocation go? Does Handsome have a name yet?

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HI, thanks for thinking of us!

He's being called "Cat" most often, also CatCat and Puppy, b'c he follows me around wagging his tail like a puppy would. ;)

There have been a few delays on the house sale, so we haven't left yet, but he likes to chill occasionally in his pet carrier.  Its sitting on the floor open, so he can get used to being comfortable inside of it.  As much as I didn't feel like I'd be a cat person, I can't imagine not being buddies with him!  He still prefers to go to the bathroom outside over using his catbox, but has used it when I'm not around to let him outside, never a mess in the house that's not in his box.  Doesn't ever jump on counter tops or chew on cords or anything.  He's a really great cat and I'm really happy that he trusted me to take him in.

 

I'll update when we get to the new city... seems like he'll do well.


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Thanks for the update.  I'm thrilled to hear things are going so well for you both!  I can't wait to hear how he does in his new home.

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Yeah, hopefully he'll do well.  I just found out that a friend wants to be roommates in my other city, so chances are that this cat will be living with 2 (nice) medium sized dogs and one other shy and physically smaller cat.  All of them are neutered/spayed.  So, it should be interesting!  Apparently in his previous home, he lived with a large dog and another cat and a toddler.  Anyway, here's a photo, he's really enjoying having a soft bed and regular food and water and love!  When he sees me get his brush and go sit on the living room floor, he runs over while chirping/meowing, dives upside down and stretches out to get brushed.  So funny.

 

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aww happy kitty...

so glad he is doing better!

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I was just wondering how kitty is doing, did you get moved yet? He is too cute!

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Hi!  Thx for thinking of him.  Us.  We haven't moved yet, issues with our buyer's loan, so the dates keep getting pushed.  He's doing great, has his little routine now for cat things he seems to like to do, lol.  He's still having some stress from the harness I'm trying to get him used to, the first one he was ok with but he ended up being able to get out of it, so I switched to a different type and when I put it on him he just lays down and won't walk much.  We're working on it.  I still have guilt about taking him out of this neighborhood but I can't leave him here either... and at this point, he's attached to me it seems, and I've grown attached to him too.  He's a neat little guy, very sweet and funny personality.  Here's a photo for you (please don't quote the photo b'c I'll probably erase it later for privacy, ty!), this is how he is everyday in the mornings, chilled out next to me, sleeping:

 

 

 

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Having to wait may be a blessing in disguise.  I think by the time we leave, I'll be renting a different place in my other city, my friend is looking for a house with a fenced yard now, instead of my small inner city apartment.  I'll post updates when we get there and tell everyone how it went.  Seems like he'll be alright.


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adorable! The house idea sounds great, I hope everything smoothes out and you get transitioned easily.

 

 

 

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