Mama to 9 so far:Mother of Joey (20), Dominick (13), Abigail (11), Angelo (8), Mylee (6), Delainey (3), Colton (2) and Baby 8 and Baby 9 coming sometime in July 2013. If evolution were true, mothers would have three arms!
proverbs 29:7 the righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern.
I want to toss a book out there for you to read before you vax:
Dr. Pitcairn's New Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs and Cats
He just released a new book and I will most likely get it. I perused his old book from the library and really liked it. He goes in depth about vaccinations and will have answers for you.
Some interesting websites on pets and vaccines:
I vax my kitty/cat and dogs for the kitty/puppy vaxs and thats it. Dogs have been getting rabies.....but one of my dogs has a fatal kidney disease and the other is 10yrs old, so I wont be doing the rabies vax's anymore.
I selectively vax my kids, and will do the same with the doggie. One at a time, each one considered for risk/benefits, holistic treatment to minimize adverse effects, etc. Some of them I feel are important, but others I will likely not do. My vet is way cool and says for the most part it is our choice. Like for the kids, it is important to find a caregiver you can talk to.
If you do not get your pet rabies if something happens you could loose your pet and they will be killed. We get the three year one. I wouldn’t give any if it wasn’t for there being no way around that law. Now if I lived on a farm, took my dogs hunting, or lived in another area I wouldn’t bat an eye at giving rabies.
*********I will warn you that treating parvo is expencive. But we found that if you say you don’t have money treatment gets a heck of a lot cheaper. They show you how to treat by yourself, or you can come in.
Dogs-- "normal vaccinations" are DHLPP or DHPP every 3 -4 weeks from about 6 weeks to 16 weeks of age then yearly Rabies is given one time at 16 weeks then booster yearly or every 3 years depending on local law
D -- canine distemper -
H -- hepatitis -CAV2
L -- Leptosporosis
P -- Parainfluenza
P -- Parvo virus
Lepto -- some dogs have severe reactions to it-- we do not give at all
--lepto is a bacteria spec. spirochete bacteria -- basically dogs get is from outdoor/dirty water source esp. where there is livestock runoff water-- dogs can die from this
distemper -- resp. and nervous system , often fatal, found in wild animal populations sometimes animal shelters will get it and almost lose or do lose all the dogs
Parainfluenza - resp. disease not usually fatal except of course in the young, old , or already sick animal
Hepatitis -- viral liver disease, can be fatal,
parvovirus -- gastrointestional virus that is highly contagious in kennels and unsanitary conditions often kills puppies
also commonly given/available
coronovirus -- very similar to parvo clinically,
lyme vaccine -- lymes disease (tick borne disease)
bordetella vaccine - vaccinates against kennel cough which is a brochitis
Currently certain org. have "pushed" vaccine companies into testing and getting approved longer acting vaccines
I believe (ask your vet) there is a 3 yr. dhpp available now, can not remember product name. Is it better for your pet ??? May be "stronger" initially and therefor last that long or just has been tested to be effective that long. Does not mean a 1 yr. vaccine only "lasts" 1 year, that is just how long vaccine companies tested it for.
Rabies is required by law. Some areas accept 3 yr. vaccines and some only do 1 yr. Dog must be at least 16 weeks old.
IMO if you are against vaccines or would like to do a modified program
at least do rabies(once a year or every 3 years) and parvo vaccine when a puppy and booster every three weeks ( there is a parvo vaccine by itself available) . parvo is so common and kills little puppies easily.
the big problem with switching the industry to less vaccines is money of course. Vaccine companies will lose and vets will lose.
what I have learned - experience and journals- a well run practice should not depend on vaccines to keep it afloat. therefor a good practice should be able to adjust. If a receptionist, tech, or vet argues / disapproves of your choice to not vaccinate or to modify the protocol, maybe you want to rethink going there.
I personally do not feel the need to talk client into vaccines if they do not want them. I tell them here is the info. rabies is all that is required. We also have started to give vaccines every 3 years to older dogs that are not in an at risk environment. -- A 5 year old healthy dog who has been vaccinated yearly that does not go anywhere besides their backyard -- does he need dhpp every year??
Also in old dogs (the kind I wonder if I will see them next year) I discuss the possible side effects of the vaccines. I feel if they have been vaccinated well, it might harm them more to stimulate there immune system that much more. I usually just give rabies.
Ok I will stop now. I did not even get into cats.
ohh yeah disclaimer :LOL
Please consult your veterinarian for specific information about your pet. This is merely a informative post. and please disregard any spelling errors -- NAK part of the time
Interesting tidbit I thought on the parvo take on who actually GETS parvo a majority of the time. I somehow do not think they are lying and they surely would make more money if they just cowtowed to vaccines for all animals.
Our vet is pretty AP/NFL. She recs the one-yr rabies vax over the 3-yr b/c she feels it is safer and more effective.
|Most of the parvo cases I actually see are puppies that have no vaccines. If a puppy is vaccinated recently for parvo (7-10 days I believe) they will test postive for parvo.|
Unfortunately we have let our animal's health go by the way side feeding them real crap (talking in general public and food that is available at places like walmart and petsmart). Good health starts WITH diet and we are less suceptible to disease. But instead of vets talking good health, people will usually think the vaccine is the panacea for disease unfortunately. People need to realize there IS another side to this.
So, now I'm wondering if I should do rabies when they have the free clinic?
momma to 8 yr old dd. Furmom to our menagerie: 2 , 1, 2 , 2 , and 1 silly rabbit.
IMO I'd rather risk the exposure than risk something happening, and our dear sweet pup being put down because I didn't have proof of rabies. I know it's lame but I can't "fight the good fight" on everything, I have to give in on a few things and this is one of them.
The cats get the 3 year shot which I do stretch a tiny bit.
I'll be checking out those books and links.
and Brigid Eleanor (11/20/08)