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We love all dogs!! But I am a tad bit partial to my Rhodesian Ridgeback Bear. He is a mamas boy! all 157 pounds of him!
I also have a 4 pound (full grown) shih tzu Cujo and a new little 8 week old german sheph/husky mix

We recently lost our other Ridgeback Blue... he was 9 and was my dh's best friend!

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My Bubbie is about 80 lbs, so he's on the big side. My dream dog is an Irish Wolfhound. Every time I see one my eyes tear up- they are so majestic. Since I only believe in adopting shelter/rescue dogs, the chances that I ever will have a Wolfhound are slim, but it's good to dream.
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wolfhounds rock... I actually work with rhodesian rescue and know a women who works with wolfhound rescue!!!

all our dogs came from scarey begginings but they all rock and are such good kids!

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My "big dog" weighs about 40 pounds...(he's a heeler).

But, in my next life I want to be Joanna.....raising GD's......for now, though, until KD decides he needs to get old and die (which will never happen: ) I'm just admiring from afar.

We had a rott named Goliath that I loved (I think he was about 160 in his prime)...he got me stuck on big dogs. (they go well with my big horses...don't look so out of proportion )
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My big dog is 75. She is a black lab mix and the sweetest dog!!
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I have Danes--I don't like to brag on size or weight, because I constantly worry that people will get Danes for the shock value of their appearance and not because it's the right breed for them, but yeah, they're pretty big.

It's a huge challenge to have a big dog. People will be afraid of it, other dogs will attack it, one swipe of a paw and your couch cushion is in two pieces. There are days that I swear I'm never going to breed another litter. But they are wonderful, wonderful dogs.
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My German Shepherd was 80 lbs. at the last vet visit (though he has probably gained a few pounds because he hasn't been spending hours every day "herding" his chickens because he is suddenly afraid of the rooster). He is the sweetest, most gentle and tolerant dog I have ever had. He does fine with any age of human, even little toddlers who grab at him. And, of course, he generally is my talented assistant at chore time- it makes evening chores so much easier when he is there to help herd in the young idiot roosters who try to run off into the brush at dusk to hid and be fox meals. He also likes to wear clothing, specifically dresses made of silky material. Strange boy, I know. I have a picture of him somewhere in a gold evening gown from our dress up trunk!
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I hear ya!!

I always warn ppl when they come over that my dog is big... they say ok cool.... then they come over and OMG you didn't say you had a horse lady!!!

yes I told you my dog was big.... you just thought lab was big ... so now your shocked... its ok he won't eat you!

My dh walks our dog at night because there isn't so much of the "omg get to the other side of the street before that beast eats us" thing.

and for the record it is never a good idea to get a rhodesian ridgeback as a first time pet... they require alot of attention and training... as all dogs do... there actually quite hard to come by and we had to go to RR school and have training for 4 months before we even got to take our kids home with us!


awesome breed though... great with kids, cats,.... but they need lots of room!! and are weary of strangers... I always tell my dh though that if someone broke into the house Bear would growl at them... bark for a minute then help them load up all our stuff...

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I always tell my dh though that if someone broke into the house Bear would growl at them... bark for a minute then help them load up all our stuff...
haha I know a dog like that......

should have welcome mat tattooed on his forehead...unless DH is gone. Then, his home is his castle and intruders beware!

But that's why I like him.....

? for Joanna-Danes aren't any more destructive as puppies than any other breed, are they? They're bigger, so they do more damage to potentially larger items (and more expensive couch cushions...) bc of the size/strength ratio but they don't have any more drive to tear stuff up than your average bear, do they? (I hope I'm wording that to get my point across....feeling kinda fuzzy this afternoon.....)
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See, I don't think of my 80 lb GSD as a "big dog" - I've seen 130+ lb GSDs, and the OP's dog at 150+ I would call big, as are great danes - but I have I friend who constantly is calling him a horse, and insists "No really, he's the size of a pony!" Um, no. Just because the only dogs you've been around are 10-40 lbs doesn't mean 80lbs is a big dog. On the large side of medium, sure.

And yet when we take him to the dog park, he is frequently the largest dog there (also the scarediest - first time we took him when he was about six months old he ran and hid behind us FROM A PUG! A six lb PUG! ). Not always, and at least half the GSDs we run in to are larger, but he is on the larger side of dogs in general. But he doesn't seem "big" to me - he's just my dog, and he's perfectly sized.

My SIL is afraid of big dogs, and that combined with my baby's, um, different ideas of personal boundaries (he's a face-shover - loves nothing more than to come up and get right in your face) resulted in some tense moments a couple christmases ago. I pointed out that my 15lb, 12yo, blind since birth (and very annoyed at having a big rambunctious puppy around) poodle was MUCH more likely to actually bite her, and was much less likely to actually obey commands and generally be a "good" dog, but it had nothing to do with HIM, just with her perception of him as a "big dog". Nothing I could say or do would persuade her to be less afraid - she had a phobia, and wasn't interested in trying to get over it. (I'm very sympathetic toward phobias - my arachnophobia is the bane of my existance, but I'm constantly working on getting over it, and I actually LIKE spiders. Just not when they pop up near me unexpectedly, y'know? It's the clinging to phobias that bugs me.)

We could also start talking about breed prejudice, which is closely related to size prejudice, but that's probably best for another thread. (And can I just say I LOVE rotties? And "pit bulls". Never met one that wasn't a complete and total sweety unless it was severely abused - can't say the same about many small breed dogs, although I love them, too.)

Oh, and that gets me on a rant about the perception of small v. large dogs - I've met very few aggressive large dogs (not none, but few), but many, many aggressive small dogs, but people tend to think it's "OK", because you can always just pick up a small dog and remove it. That makes its antisocial behavior more acceptable? Um, no! Don't get me wrong, I love all dogs, small or large, barky and aggressive or placid and quiet, but what is it about having a small dog that makes some people think it's ok to not train or socialize them? People with big dogs could never get away with that. I'll be the first to admit my GSD could use more training (the poodle is pretty much entitled to be a cranky old fart at this point but in his prime he knew and responded to about 3 dozen commands, and was well socialized, although being blind there were some doggie signals he just didn't get and some tense situations resulted from that), but as soon as we adopted him we were working on polite, social behavior, and obediance to a few basic commands.

Just don't ask me about how to stop the face and crotch shoving. :
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I my American Mastiff. Gromit was 155 lbs at his last checkup, but he still has some growing to do. Dh had a Newfie when we first got married. Sweetest dog on the planet, but a walking filth machine.
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OOooo, that is one thing I like about my German Shepard as opposed to some other large breed dogs I know - waaaay less drool. In fact, I've only ever seen him actually drool twice (slobber from drinking a ton of water or running around, lots, but that's different). Both times a big turkey dinner were involved.
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I only like big dogs...they've gotta be over 75 pounds or they don't count as real dogs in my book! I lust after mastiffs but dh says we have no room for more dogs til we get rid of the kids!

Dogmama ~ I have a friend who got a beautiful Irish Wolfhound from a rescue. He's a great dog! I walk every morning with a group of friends and we all bring our big dogs - we have my big lab mix, the wolfhound, 3 big goldens, a huskie and a large spaniel mix. The neighbors call us the daily dog parade!
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This thread has me thinking...what qualifies as big in your book?
I have always thought as under 30 being small, 30-60 as medium 60-90 as large and 90 + as extra large. But some dogs only get to be 6 lbs and there is a big differemce between 6 lbs and 30, kwim.
My last dog was about 90-95, a good deal over a 100 before we figured out she had hypothyroidism. I did the "My dog is pretty big" warning before visitors came over, but most were still rather surprised!

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Arwyn, if someone has a 130 lb GSD, they should be shot for letting it get so fat--the breed should absolutely NOT be that heavy, my boy is oversized with more bone than normal and when in good condition (that means tons of muscle) he weighs in between 96 and 98 lbs
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There are breeders (at least here in the US) who are going for BIG GSDs - 100-150 pounders. It makes me really sad, because although I love large dogs, when breeding just for size, it introduces new health problems and shortens their life expectancy (which, as a person with a 12yo minipoodle still going strong, and expecting another few good years out of him, I think GDS have too short a life expectancy already ).

There was a really gorgeous, really sweet long haired LARGE (130ish lb) GSD I met when at the vet's. He was a semi-rescue, but yes, someone intentionally bread him to be that large.

Normal breed standard is only about, what, 70-90 lb? But I'm starting to think we'll see a "King-size German Shepard Dog" sub-breed acknowledged soon.
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Don't they already have that with the Shiloh Shepherds or whatever it is that they are calling the ultra large GSD-like dogs that someone created?

Our previous GSD weighed 95 lbs. He liked to carry around small trees. I swear his frame was nearly the same size as our current 80 lb GSD, but this guy was just all muscle. I wonder if it might have had something to do with the current GSD having retained testicles and hence less hormones to get that bigger "male" build. I think his size was the maximum I would want to see for a GSD. 100+ lbs is just pushing it, especially for a breed with hip problems. All the German dogs that I have seen are much smaller then the American lines- the county sheriff out here uses dogs with German lines and the last male I saw was probably only 70 lbs and a bit overweight.
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i agree about more small breed aggression... in our house the alpha dog is a female shih tzu... my RR is actually afraid of her,

btw on mastiff... LOVE THEM a rhodesian ridgeback is actually part mastiff.... thats where they get there size!

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I have a large thin Rott 95 lbs. I prefer him underweight to overweight. He doesn't have a thick fat pad over his ribs. I have met smaller rotts that weighed 120 lbs+. It is just not healthy. But yet the owner sits there and says "yeah my dog is 150 lbs." They have no waist and look like a big sausage.

My boyfriends mom has fat golden retreivers and a lab. They are all around 100 and should be closer to 70 lbs. She is finally trying to get them to lose weight. I feel so sorry for them.
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When we rescued our RRs they were so thin ... they had been locked in a house with no one to care for them for 3 weeks... due to a divorce.... it was so sad how thin they were... we upped there meals but also upped there excersize. Both vets/us agree Bear is a big boy but not obese.

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Yes, me. The bigger the better, when it comes to dogs. I got a lab/ACD mix and I was kind of hoping he'd be really tall, but he's more ACD size. He's the best dog in the world, though, so I can't complain at all. And then I got a black lab, because I grew up with one and I wanted one for so many years--long before I wanted children --and he's kinda small too. I call him "shrimpy".

I'm hoping one day to have a big, big dog again. But I love the ones I have, so I'm happy. The only problem with big dogs--well, any dog--is they don't live long enough.
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mama2toomany--I hate to disagree with your vet, but the pic of your ridgeback in the other thread--he's overweight, by a good 20 lbs at least. The standard for the breed says that males should weight around 95 lbs. The RR can often have back problems and they are almost always related to carrying WAY too much weight (same as with Rotties--good for you livinzoo)

I find a LOT of people with large breed dogs are so focused on getting them big that they let them get fat. You should be able to easily feel his ribs by running your hands across them, you should see a noticable and obvious tuckup and waist and you should be albe to SEE the last 3 ribs. Rolls should NOT exist.

When I did exhibits with the dogs I used to have people say to me all the time--oh, my GSD is WAYYYYY bigger than that one. "Ummmm, could it walk??" Cause this one is already oversized, most often they'd show my pics of these coffee tables with heads, all proud of their HUGE dog, made me want to puke.
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? for Joanna-Danes aren't any more destructive as puppies than any other breed, are they? They're bigger, so they do more damage to potentially larger items (and more expensive couch cushions...) bc of the size/strength ratio but they don't have any more drive to tear stuff up than your average bear, do they? (I hope I'm wording that to get my point across....feeling kinda fuzzy this afternoon.....)
No, they're not instinctively more destructive, but they're the biggest dog you've ever seen LONG before any sort of maturity kicks in. I've had puppies break windows, tear screens off porches (she decided that she liked the sound of screens tearing, so she systematically went around the porch and tore off every single one of the top row of screens), eat the entire arm of a couch in an hour, etc. One of mine chewed a hole in the drywall that was easily 3' x 4' when we were gone one time--she just decided it looked like fun. And I know a Dane that dragged a row of cabinets off the wall because he thought there were donuts inside. Once they're about two, they quiet down and never do it again, but until then they can do some really dramatic damage. I think a lot of it is that their noses are at the same height as where a lot of damage is possible (counters, where windows begin, those screens, etc.) so when they get interested they can do some major rearranging.
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We have a 9 month old St. Bernard that's about 130 pounds now so he has another 50-70 pounds to grow yet. He's a big cuddly bear, I love to kiss his huge nose.

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mama2toomany--I hate to disagree with your vet, but the pic of your ridgeback in the other thread--he's overweight, by a good 20 lbs at least. The standard for the breed says that males should weight around 95 lbs. The RR can often have back problems and they are almost always related to carrying WAY too much weight (same as with Rotties--good for you livinzoo)

I find a LOT of people with large breed dogs are so focused on getting them big that they let them get fat. You should be able to easily feel his ribs by running your hands across them, you should see a noticable and obvious tuckup and waist and you should be albe to SEE the last 3 ribs. Rolls should NOT exist.

When I did exhibits with the dogs I used to have people say to me all the time--oh, my GSD is WAYYYYY bigger than that one. "Ummmm, could it walk??" Cause this one is already oversized, most often they'd show my pics of these coffee tables with heads, all proud of their HUGE dog, made me want to puke.
the standard for the breed says it should also be around 27 inches tall... Bear is close to 30... We feed our pets a good diet and do not gorge them... we also excersize and course our dog... So I must disagree with you.

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A 30-inch dog should be well under 150 lb. My Dane boys, who are built very big and broad, are about 160-170 lbs at 37 inches. That's thirty-SEVEN.

Dogs can easily get very fat on a "normal" diet and without gorging; they just eat too much for their size, that's all. Like Shannon said, if you can SEE his last two ribs when he is standing there, and if you can put your hands on his sides and feel each rib against your palms WITHOUT digging in or pressing, if he's got a lot of tuckup under and a distinct waist when viewed from above, he's the right weight. Here's a couple of pictures of what Ridgebacks are supposed to be, body-weight-wise:
http://www.dogs-life.beautystyle.biz..._ridgeback.jpg
http://www.thaidog.com/atra/rhodesian_ridgeback_2.jpg
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Our "little" dog (can actually pick him up & carry him) is DH's Staffy Bullx, Pip, who's 54 lbs. Mine average 95-110 lbs, 28-29" for the girls, 120-145 lbs, 30-32" for the boys. Here I'm handling one of my boys, Ruh, (he's an Anatolian Shepherd) at a show this last spring (when I was 7 months preg. - acck! But I wanted to show in Bred By Exhibitor, & besides, he goofs off for anyone else) http://shahbazinanatolianshepherds.c.../rtrotblur.jpg
I like a nice big dog you can really hug, that varmints won't make off with; on the other hand, 100+ lb dogs that dig burrows big enough to get out of sight in *are* kinda hard on yards - & I'm also in the process of spinning 9 lbs of dog hair/wool blend into yarn - & it's 2/3 dog hair!

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A 30-inch dog should be well under 150 lb. My Dane boys, who are built very big and broad, are about 160-170 lbs at 37 inches. That's thirty-SEVEN.

Dogs can easily get very fat on a "normal" diet and without gorging; they just eat too much for their size, that's all. Like Shannon said, if you can SEE his last two ribs when he is standing there, and if you can put your hands on his sides and feel each rib against your palms WITHOUT digging in or pressing, if he's got a lot of tuckup under and a distinct waist when viewed from above, he's the right weight. Here's a couple of pictures of what Ridgebacks are supposed to be, body-weight-wise:
http://www.dogs-life.beautystyle.biz..._ridgeback.jpg
http://www.thaidog.com/atra/rhodesian_ridgeback_2.jpg
What I am saying is that my dogs are in no way over fed... they have a diet prescribed to them from our vet. Bear is a Big Boy but at his age he will most likely be at the weight he is for the rest of his life. His vet is comfortable and he is a happy energetic dog. So we have no worries for Bear. Over all his health is what is important not his size and as per his vet he is a healthy dog.

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Y'know, after having a dog who has spent his entire life boarderline skinny (alternated between "aren't you feeding him??" and "well, that MIGHT be good enough"), a cat who is OBESE and has remained that way through diet change after diet change and after getting a GERMAN SHEPARD half just to chase him, and then having a dog who, fed EXACTLY like the other two (in terms of quality and appropriateness for breed/size) is "just right" (nice tuck up, can feel ribs, but has good muscle, etc) - I've come to the conclusion that although we can influence our pets' weight, we cannot control it entirely, and like with people, some dogs are just skinny, some cats are just heavy, and some are "just right", and it has at least as much to do with their genetics and disposition as what their owners do or don't do for them.
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Arwy, you're right that every animal has its own metabolism. However, that just points up the fact that we can't feed some sort of "appropriate amount" for the dog's breed and size and expect it to be perfect.

I feed raw, so I am always thinking in terms of chicken backs, not cups, but for the ten or so adult bitches that I am very familiar with, ranging from 1 year to 9 years, all about 130-140 lb, all the same breed and same pedigree (great-grandmother, grandmother, mother, daughters), the amount fed varies HUGELY. One may need three or four chicken backs a day, one may need one (or even half of one some days). If they were all fed according to breed and size, some would be obese and others would be malnourished.

What we do as pet owners is make decisions for animals who would instinctively eat themselves to death. A dog (or cat) MUST always be hungry; they would die in the wild if they were not motivated to constantly chase prey unless they are stuffed full. So if we have a fat dog or cat, it doesn't matter if a 200-lb animal has to go down to half a cup of kibble a day--we reduce the food and increase the exercise until the animal is at a healthy weight.
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