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Let's share a little about ourselves (name/age) and our Little's and I'll keep us all updated with info here...sound ok? This Tribe will be started anew every two months with a reference to earlier threads. Here's the earlier thread link - http://www.mothering.com/discussions...d.php?t=938366


40-ish with Little's Tribe - Mar./Apr. '09



lovbeingamommy Kate - 44 DS 3 yo and two babies in heaven. TTC #2 in April '09 (hoping May is a miraculous month with a BFP)

mammal mama -44 Lover of Jesus, Wife to Dude, SAH Unschoolin' Momma to Roo 4-25-00, Boo 3-10-05, and at least one precious Soul in Heaven.

chattie67 Julieanne - 40 SAHM and have a DS that's 20 and a DS that is 10 months

mamasgroovin - 40 I have 4 kiddos...ds1 is 16, ds2 is 12, ds3 is 7 and dd is 3.5...so I do not have any SUPER little ones, but quite the spread. I have been a SAHM for 16 years now.

yankeeterrier - 45 DS almost 9M, WAHM with a website for maternity, infant and childrens resale items and a hyena cart store for cloth diapering items. I am cloth addicted!

Kira's mom - Hali - 47 Dd 5 1/2

salt_phoenix - Julie

PassionateWriter - 40 mom to 4 boys: 18, 11, 3 and 4 months (almost 5...G-d, where did the time go?). I'll be 41 next month.

2goingon2 - Janet - 40 Mother of 3; expecting 2/09

ricemom3 - Muriel - 43 married with 3 kids - ds 17yo, dd 14yo, and ds 1yo

Jezzy - Sharun - 40 I have 1 ds 16, 2 dds #1 is 13 and #2 is 1 yo

MCR - Pauline - 46 Mom to three ages 20, 14, and 3.

BethNC - Beth - 40 I'm mom to a four-year-old son and foster mom to a 18-month-old bundle of energy.

SaneMarguerite - 40 - Mom to a six month old son

claras mom - 44 - Dd is 4y3m. She's scary smart and very high energy. It's a wild ride. New baby coming in early April.

mamazee - 40 - I have a 6-year-old and I'm expecting another in early Feb.

ssh - 48 - I have a 22 year old DD and a 33 month old DD

avivaelona - 41 - Erica - currently pregnant. I have a 3.5 year old too.

mbbinsc - 48 - with 11yo DS and 3 1/2 yo DD.

AkRotts - 41 - proud mother of a 23 yo, 2 yo twins and a 16 month old I am also guardian for my 12 yo neice.

lara1828 - 40 - Lara - I'll be 41 in November. I currently have a 2.5 yo and a 4.5 yo

Materfamilias - 44 - I'm 44 (just turned) with a 15 yo stepdaughter, a 5 yo adopted son, and a 9 week old baby girl.

MaxMommy - 43 - ds 4.5

ewink - 41 - 4.5 yo DD and 3.5 yo DS

hrsmom - Kimberly- 40- DD born April 08.

Anglyn - almost 40 four kiddos 17,5,3 and 1

noordinaryspider - Heather - 44 - Three DC 19, 16 and 1

Treasuremapper - 48 - DD's 5 and 7

Verygoddess - Jennifer - 41 - due in May with #5. We have an almost 14yo, almost 12yo, 9yo and almost 2yo.

athansor - Sue - 41 - birthmom of a dd who is 21 (she was placed for adoption as an infant) and have two ds's at home, one just turned 4 (on the 4th) and the other one is 6 months old today.

kbhlmh - Karen - 47 - DH Larry (51), DD Lorraine is 20, DS Winston is 18, DS Kevin is 2y10m, DSS Chris is 23 and DSD Michelle is 20. We are currently TTC a younger brother or sister for Kevin.

being - Be - 44 I have one dd 3.7 yo. I miscarried last year at almost same time I conceived again naturally this October . I'm dueJune 30 ish/early July and am soooo excited

libba - 45 - 8 year old DD and one angel baby

Barab - 46 - I'm going to be 46 soon and I have 20 y/o, 17 y/o and a 2 1/2 y/o.

Shahbazin - 41 - with 2 DDs - almost 1 1/2, & a little over 2 1/2 years old.

uptowngirl - Jillian - 46 - I have a 4 year old daughter and a 6 year old son. My dh is 60 and these are our first (only) children.

Close2Me - 42 in Jan. - with a 3 mo. old and a 7 yo.

intentionalmama- Lesley 46 - with a 5 1/2 yo ds and looking to adopt another child.

ElliesMomma- 40 - DD 2.75 and newly pregnant with #2 EDD Sept. '09

BelovedK- 42 -TTC #3 13yo and 9yo

SkyMomma -39.5 5yo and 3mo

Kidzaplenty- Jenny - 39 Helpmeet + MOMYS = #1 ~ '90 + #2 ~ '94 + #3 ~ '96 + #4 ~ '97 + #5 ~ '00 + #6 ~ '02 to '06~ + #7 ~ '04 + #8 ~ '06 to '06~ + #9 ~ '08 ----> My Blog . . . Josh24:15 . . .

THANKFULFORFIVE - Billie - 41 My gang....kid-luvin' Dh-42, ds-20, ds-15, dd-14, dd-11, dd-14mos, hoping for #6 next year

CathMac - Cath - 43 1/2 - 4 1/2 yo DD and 2 1/2 yo DD

ZanZansMommy - 41 - 3 yo DS and 5 yo DD

allgirls - 42 - my youngest is 3 and my oldest is 18 and expecting her first in September...so I will be a grandma soon

jrabbit - Janis is proud to be 42 with DH & 3 DD's: 9, 5, 2 months

smibbo - 42 - I have 4 kids. Three boys: 18, 16, 13 and an awesome little girl (18mos)

Pookietooth - Jen - 43 - and I have a five year old (who will be six soon). Pg with #2, due 10/23/09ish.

ktmama - Kate - 43 with two dds (3.5 and 11.5) and one baby on the way. I'll be 44 when s/he is born in June.

Miracle and Wonder - Candida - 45 I had a miscarriage in February of 1983 (at 19) and I have two living babies, Isobel (who will be one at the end of the month) and Ianto (who was born 21 December). Ianto also had a twin, annalisa, who passed away at the beginning of this month.

contactmaya - Maya - 42 I have a 10 month old and a 3 1/2 year old. Both boys.

SuzymomofLaura Suzy - 42 - mother of two: my sweet Laura, now 4,5 yrs old already, and Lucie, our 20 month old (and not yet STTN at all), gluten/lactose intolerant VBAC miracle. And there's DH, aged 50, plus one cat, 11 months old, in our household. We BF, co-sleep and I recently summoned up the courage to pull out my CD stash again

Hollysmom - Kristine - 40 - (41 in May) and I am Mom to 3 girls, 6, 2.5and 1

suziek - Suzie - I'm expecting my 5th baby. I'm 42, and counting

sewchris2642 - Chris - I was 45.5 when our son was born. I'm now 56.5 and he just turned 11.

tropicaldutchtulip - 39 - I have 33 month old identical twin girls and we are starting to cycle with our surrogate in about 10 days! Hoping to have our Christmas miracle!

CatsCradle - 45 - 2.5 yo

Purplegirl - Lisa

MGBoutique - Lisa - 43.5 - I have a 14 year old dd with autism, a 7 year old dd, and a 16 month old ds.



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This looks like a fun group. Are you accepting newbies?

I am Kristine 40 (41 in May) and I am Mom to 3 girls, 6, 2.5 and 1. I always joke that I am Annette Benning because I started having children in my mid thirties and managed to have 3
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An introduction: I'm Suzie, I'm expecting my 5th baby. I'm 42, and counting

And now a question: Does anyone have any great tips for boosting ones energy in the first trimester? I need help, and fast.

I'm 8 weeks pregnant with and my energy level drops to near nothing everyday from about 2 until the kids are in bed. I can't stand it! I never liked napping much, but I really couldn't do it now even if I wanted to. DH travels and works long hours and my mother is on her annual, well-earned vacation in the sun.

I like to be busy with my kids. I like to cook delicious meals. I like to have a well-ordered, cheerful home. I feel happiest when I'm busy and getting a lot done, and not so great when things start to slide. But I feel so sleepy every day.

I wish I could manage a short mid-day spin on my stationary bike but I can't quite break away from the kids during dbs' nap to do that--something always comes up.

For the record, I've posted a similar question in the mom's of many thread.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

What are your best "surviving and enjoying the first trimester" tips?

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i must share how geeky my family is: The Tiny Techie

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Janis is proud to be 42 with DH & 3 DD's: 9, 5, 2 months

i have a blog about my newest baby's birth - traumatic sense of loss for me. i've just realized that if i'm alone at all (i mean without adults - my kids are with me always), i start to feel more depressed again. even if it's just a shower. i haven't written anything in my blog in over a month because i don't want to think about it - but i think i need to start writing again.

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Suzie - i think you should experiment with taking a nap at 2 - it might boost your energy!

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DD is now 7.5 months and I'm still having a great time. I guess she would be classified as an easy baby (though she thinks the computer is called, "No no no" She looks at it when I say that now :
She's crawling and pulling up and cruising. I'm very busy.

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Be back with more of an intro when I am not falling asleep.

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Kristine and Suzie


Janis I updated your info and I'm on my way to read your blog...

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Janis just wanted to say you have a beautiful family :

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I've been lurking lately and not posting. I am happy to join a 40ish tribe as I have turned 48 and feel more 50ish! My body finally gave up making milk last month. Too many conflicting hormones with menopause. I can't believe we made it 3.5 years with DD. Naps are great!!
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I've been lurking lately and not posting. I am happy to join a 40ish tribe as I have turned 48 and feel more 50ish! My body finally gave up making milk last month. Too many conflicting hormones with menopause. I can't believe we made it 3.5 years with DD. Naps are great!!
mbbinsc, I changed your info to update on the front page. Check to see if it's accurate. Thanks, Kate

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Thanks for the update, though I'd rather be 47. I am no longer nursing. No more milk. I love reading this thread as it makes me feel normal.
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What are your best "surviving and enjoying the first trimester" tips?
the thing that helped me during pregnancy, and actually every day, with energy is my pregnancy tea an old friend recommended. i was hesitant to do it as i didnt really like the taste of it. however, i added some raw sugar to it and gradually stopped doing that and now i drink it every day.

if you are interested, ill post the recipe. if not, no worries. I can definitely tell a difference in days when i have drank the tea, and when i have not. and my iron levels were through the roof during my pregnancy while drinking it. for all 3 prior pregnancies, i was anemic.

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PW: 40, mom to 4 boys: 18, 11, 3 and 4 months (almost 5...G-d, where did the time go?). ill be 41 next month. oh well....im on the young side of this tribe, right? lol! i never get to feel "young in age" anywhere around young children and moms right now, but its all good. i often forget my age! lol!
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Do I belong here? I was 45.5 when our son was born. I'm now 56.5 and he just turned 11.

Chris--extended breastfeeding, cloth diapering, babywearing, co-sleeping, APing, CLW, homeschooling before any of this was a trend mom to Joy (1/78), Erica (8/80), Angela (9/84), Dylan (2/98)
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Do I belong here? I was 45.5 when our son was born. I'm now 56.5 and he just turned 11.
Chris Of course you belong here, mama We love new members. I'll add you to the front page as soon as I post this ok. :

If you don't mind me asking, I hope ...but did you have a natural preg at 45.5? I really want more kiddos myself and I just turned 44. I had two m/c's and am feeling a little depressed, but try to keep up the hope. We'll be TTC again in Apr. or May.

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I would also be 45+ if I were to try for another.

I'm Heather, 44, mother of Terran-Sage Revolution who is one.
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welcome to all the new mama's

My ds just turned 16 my lo is a year now :

No advice on boosting the energy.The first tri was also really hard on me with my last one.

Still no af 13 mo pp. I am waiting for af before I consider ttc again. Probably not though. Even though I have a dh I am raising this lo almost 100% alone. Dh works a lot and plays a lot. Which is fine with me.
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Ohhhh and thanks for starting the new thread lovbeingamommy
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Chris Of course you belong here, mama We love new members. I'll add you to the front page as soon as I post this ok. :

If you don't mind me asking, I hope ...but did you have a natural preg at 45.5? I really want more kiddos myself and I just turned 44. I had two m/c's and am feeling a little depressed, but try to keep up the hope. We'll be TTC again in Apr. or May.
Yes, I did. Getting pregnant has never been a problem. We say that God allowed us to plan the girls and He planned Dylan. My OB/GYN said that I was a very boring patient. No questions, no worrys, no complaints, no tests. Joy and Erica say that it was no fair--I made being pregnant look easy. They both had morning sickness. Joy with all three of hers. I never did. The only thing was that my labor stalled and had to be jump started with induction.

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I should update...

Dd is 4y3m. She's scary smart and very high energy. It's a wild ride. New baby coming in early April.


I also think a good way to deal with first tri fatigue is to give in to the nap. Even half an hour can make a world of difference.

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Good morning everyone! Thanks for the new thread! We're off to a playgroup this morning! I'm munching on the carrot bread that I made.

Welcome Chris, Kristine, and Suzie! In our old version of this thread, we talked about starting a new one and hoping that people would join in who saw the new thread. I love this group of 40-ish-+ mamas!

Suzie, I don't have any energy tips for you, I was just pregnant with my first one (well, almost a year ago now!) and I slept much of the time. I had NO energy!! And I didn't have "morning" sickness, I had "all day" sickness! Still hoping for another one someday!

As for an intro on the new thread: I'm Kimberly, just turned 40 in January, had my first baby last April. I'm a single mom, I haven't seen Hannah's dad since I was two months pregnant. We've talked on the phone a few times since Hannah was born, but not since she was about three months old. Our last interaction was him asking me for some cash, and me telling him no. Nice, huh? But we never had much of a relationship to begin with, so this little family of two is what's normal for us. My mom comes over 4-5 times a month and plays with her granddaughter while I either visit with them or get a little done around the house.

I guess that's enough for now!

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Yes, I did. Getting pregnant has never been a problem. We say that God allowed us to plan the girls and He planned Dylan. My OB/GYN said that I was a very boring patient. No questions, no worrys, no complaints, no tests. Joy and Erica say that it was no fair--I made being pregnant look easy. They both had morning sickness. Joy with all three of hers. I never did. The only thing was that my labor stalled and had to be jump started with induction.
Woohoo, OK Chris you are now officially my natural-birth, advanced-age mama idol. : : Really, I just so dislike all the negative statisics about how unfertile women are after 40 especially. And I like how put it that, "God Planned Dylan." This is what I am focusing on too as you can see in my siggy. I'm so glad you found this thread and hope to hear from you regularly. So again WELCOME!!

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Woohoo, OK Chris you are now officially my natural-birth, advanced-age mama idol. : :
Mine too if I wasn't clear enough on the other thread.

I can't honestly say that Terran was conceived naturally, since I am single and used a donor and never had sex with him, but it wasn't anything we couldn't handle ourselves in a Motel 6. I had my easiest pregnancy ever (I have had a 10 weeik voluntary termination, three other live births, and what may have been a chemical PG or may also have been staring at an HPT for too long and letting my imagination run away with me) followed by my shortest and easiest labour ever ahnd my first UC. My 20 year old was there for the actual birth, but I labouredf alone with the exception of a brief visit apiece from dd's then live-in partner and ds1, neither of whom knew I was in labour.

I turned 43 three weeks later- I would have been considered too "high risk" for a midwife assisted homebirth and quite possibly (in this town anyway) for a vaginal hospital birth.

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I've been lurking lately and not posting. I am happy to join a 40ish tribe as I have turned 48 and feel more 50ish! My body finally gave up making milk last month. Too many conflicting hormones with menopause. I can't believe we made it 3.5 years with DD. Naps are great!!
OH! : I am still too close to my premature weaning scare not to need a bit of time to think about my wording and make suire I don't accidentally say anything hurtful when I mean to be supportive. I do think that I have some experiences that might help you feel better, though.

I tandemed two kids who were 2.9 years apart and I also tried, unseuccessfully, to maintain supply for my 21 year old before I knew I had conceived my 20 year old. I know for a fact that I lose my milk when I am pregnant. dd2 dry nursed for at least 6 months because toddlers have other, equally valid reasons for nursing than milk. I can't imagine a 3 1/2 year old deciding not to nurse any more JUST because she wasn't getting milk.

I let dd2 nurse as long as she needed to (which was for five minutes every three months regular as clockwork towards the end) and weaned ds1 because i was young and stupid and didn't know any better. I needed a lot of support from LLL to be able to do so. Child led weaning is about meeting the CHILD'S need to nurse, not about giving the Mom the opportunity to say "nanner nanner nanner! I'll show YOU for being unsportive of me for nursing past a year and NIP my 13 year old in front of you just to piss you off!"

3 1/2 is well within the range of normal fore child led weaning. From what you wrote here, it sounds like dd was done.

It was also very helpful to me because CLW is important to me, has an impact on my family planning decisions, and there is very little information out there about nursing through menopause. My grandmother went through menopause at 42. I still don't have PPAF. The drama queen side of me thinks it would be SO COOL if I burned my feminity out in the blaze of glory of having the only daughter I raised catch my UC babe and then have : quietly skulk away unnoticed until I suddenly realized that I was a full-fledged crone, wise woman, SageFemme.

It makes a better story than it does a reality, though. I hope to see her at least once more before she leaves my life forever, even if I do decide to raise Terran as a "secondary only child".
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Thanks for the CLW support but she was not done. She has tried to get milk a few times with no success. I am thrilled we lasted so long. I was peri-menopausal when I got pregnant at 43. This past fall I started having nightly hot flashes along with other signs that my hormones where changing (FSH levels changing). We were able to keep it up for awhile (lots of oatmeal and nursing mom tea). You are so right that there is so little info on nursing and menopause. My sister is Ob/gyn and searched the literature for me with no success.
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You can update mine to say that I am now pg with #2, due 10/23/09ish.

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What can I say? My boby loves being pregnant. Having to jump start labor with induction is fairly normal for advanced age.

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there's not much out there about older women having children period. All the literature I found concerned older moms who were having their first child not their 4th. However, I find myself wishing that Dylan was just a little less bright. An adverage intellegent child would have been nice. And it was nice going from being pregnant to breastfeeding right into menopause. My periods hardly ever had a chance to come back after Dylan quit (sometime after he turned 2). Other than being critical which I try to stop before it comes out, menopause has been a breeze.

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Having to jump start labor with induction is fairly normal for advanced age.
I have never heard this. Sounds like a medically fabricated concept to me. I can see no reasoning for this. So, if you have some info to back this up, I would be interested.

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What can I say? My boby loves being pregnant. Having to jump start labor with induction is fairly normal for advanced age.
this is interesting to me, but i'm a little skeptical, too. all 3 of my pregnancies were easy, and each was absolutely wonderful. toward the end of this pregnancy, i started to imagine a baby #4, which would mean i'll be about 45, most likely. #1 & #2 were easy deliveries, too - no intervention, nothing. #2 was at home, and #3 was supposed to be at home. sadly, for me, something happened with #3, and i never actually went into full labor, never progressed (not a stall), but she showed signs of distress, and i had an emergency c-s (truly emergent). i was 43+ weeks when this happened, but there is no reason to blame the 43 weeks - i just have long pregnancies. and short labors (8 hours total).

sooooo, my point is this: there is a big part of me which REALLY wants another baby, but i am afraid now. it would absolutely have to be a home birth, i can't even intellectualize a hospital-birth. but, after this experience, i think i'd be open to a "jump start" - any thoughts? we did everything we could 'naturally' except castor oil (but if i thought castor oil could prevent a c-s, i would do it).

i don't talk about the c-s, except here and to about 3 close friends + dh. i think our families would absolutely flip if we decided to do a #4. they were with us during this emergency. my mom was actually supposed to be at my home birth, and i'd love to have her there, but she'd probably condemn me for trying again ... i don't know really - obviously, i'm not doing anything any time soon ... just thinking out loud.

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i don't talk about the c-s, except here and to about 3 close friends + dh. i think our families would absolutely flip if we decided to do a #4. they were with us during this emergency. my mom was actually supposed to be at my home birth, and i'd love to have her there, but she'd probably condemn me for trying again ... i don't know really - obviously, i'm not doing anything any time soon ... just thinking out loud.

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Re your mom--are you worried about her reaction to another child or to an HBAC?

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