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#61 of 264 Old 06-14-2009, 07:03 AM
 
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I've got three under five, plus a five and a ten-year-old. It's kind of insane most days, I won't sugarcoat it. But I know you can do it. Just take it one day at a time, okay? You'll find a new normal and you'll realize there is more joy than there is insanity (at least, most of the time) and there is just something about the crazy pitter-patter of 4 sets of feet running down the hall to see who can be first to hug mom and baby brother first thing in the morning.
: and in equal measure. I'm terrified, I seriously am. I can see how great this can be, but equally- it could really stink. Please, don't let me go under with PND this time. And Anglyn, that's not helping.: Lie to me, please. Tell me how wonderful it is having kids closely spaced. Don't tell me that it's as bad as my mind is imagining.

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Welcome, Cymbeline I have a similar story with my first kids dad, and yes, it's nice having a partner in parenting, as opposed to just a husband/partner. Oh, and I complained to the manager of our local supermarket because every time I've been in with all four kids recently, even when they've been very well behaved, the check-out operators have felt entitled to comment on how many we've got. : in a negative fashion- I can live without the "rather you than me" comments, and "you've got your hands full."

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Wow, there are lots of new ones coming aren't there??

My littlest just turned two, and I have been wondering about another baby or not since I started cycling again around the new year...thinking about waiting or not having anymore, which seems wierd since I've been in a position of wanting babies my whole adult life so far!

I trained as a homebirth midwifery apprentice for a couple of years between kids 1 and 2, and always think to return to it. Just when I make plans to get back into it, I find that I'm instead going to have a baby. I just made plans to start doing some doula work, and then last night my wonderful husband who ALWAYS stops to put on a condom, didn't. Hmm. He thought we were in a safe time. It's questionable.

Congratulations Kat! I hear you though- I think I'd feel the same...unsure, sort of surprised. I still think you being close by in Bend warrants us to meet someday!

Somehow when others who I've been pregnant with at the same time get pregnant again, I feel a pull, like an inevitability. I am feeling that from everywhere right now...old best friends are pregnant, good friends in town planning to be, friends online...it's equal parts exciting and scary at this point!!!

We don't do t.v. Sometimes those crazy moments...in the morning and waiting for dinner to be done (are they just starving??) get to me. I start to think "what am I doing with all these monsters??" Especially my 2 yr old. He is just so LOUD.

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Oh my, I just keep forgetting that we "move" to a new thread every month!
And so I wonder suddenly why the old one is so quiet.

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Somehow when others who I've been pregnant with at the same time get pregnant again, I feel a pull, like an inevitability. I am feeling that from everywhere right now...old best friends are pregnant, good friends in town planning to be, friends online...it's equal parts exciting and scary at this point!!!
I feel this too and its partly Flapjack's fault!!! No, not really but my four came in pairs and the first was just about to turn 3 when I felt ready to be pregnant again so there is exactly the same gap between 1 and 2 then 3 and 4.

Number 4 is coming up to that age now and I am feeling the pull despite my mind telling me I want all sorts of things to be different before I am pregnant again so I can have more time and peace to focus on myself mentally and physically.

Dh on the other hand has no such qualms. A friend came over with her 1yo yesterday and he was all gooey over him and kept talking about him all afternoon. Similarly having Flapjack's little one in our house a while ago had his mind on overdrive
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Wow, there are lots of new ones coming aren't there??

My littlest just turned two, and I have been wondering about another baby or not since I started cycling again around the new year...thinking about waiting or not having anymore, which seems wierd since I've been in a position of wanting babies my whole adult life so far!

I trained as a homebirth midwifery apprentice for a couple of years between kids 1 and 2, and always think to return to it. Just when I make plans to get back into it, I find that I'm instead going to have a baby. I just made plans to start doing some doula work, and then last night my wonderful husband who ALWAYS stops to put on a condom, didn't. Hmm. He thought we were in a safe time. It's questionable.

Congratulations Kat! I hear you though- I think I'd feel the same...unsure, sort of surprised. I still think you being close by in Bend warrants us to meet someday!

Somehow when others who I've been pregnant with at the same time get pregnant again, I feel a pull, like an inevitability. I am feeling that from everywhere right now...old best friends are pregnant, good friends in town planning to be, friends online...it's equal parts exciting and scary at this point!!!

We don't do t.v. Sometimes those crazy moments...in the morning and waiting for dinner to be done (are they just starving??) get to me. I start to think "what am I doing with all these monsters??" Especially my 2 yr old. He is just so LOUD.
Jenny! It's so funny that you talk about that "pull". Well, let me tell you, I KNOW your turn is coming. When Helen said she was pregnant, I thought well if SHE'S pregnant, then it'll probably be me next! I think it's something about keeping an unconscious eye on those who have the same # as I do. So I've been thinking about you too. I'm watching you!!

And yes, we SHOULD get together sometime, we're still hunting for a bigger house, especially now with another on the way, and we're undecided about staying in bend.....

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Oh that's funny Kat! I am pretty sure we're on the non-pregnant side of things for the time being, but I feel like it's coming and I don't think I'm ready yet!! Why does it seem like it's out of my control?! Part of why I'm not ready is that I've not come to terms with the possibility of having another boy. I love my boys but I don't know if I want another. Is that awful to say?? I want another daughter so much. You have a girl and four boys too, Kat, right? If you have a girl and then I have a boy I am going to be SO jealous!

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Hello

It's so fun reading the encouragement here. We don't know many people with large families IRL - and it's so good to see so many here - and to read all of the encouragement. We're expecting #6 in February and don't plan on saying anything for a while...in large part because of negative comments...so I'm looking forward to the encouragement here to boost our responses!

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So, um, can we talk about houseplants? Do you guys have them? Do you manage to keep the kids from spilling the dirt allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll over your house? Or have you given up on lovely indoor plants until your kids are over the age of 40?

I lovelovelove my houseplants, I always have. But in the past year or 2 I've had no choice but to start letting go of most of them because cleaning up all the dirt ground into my carpet & toddler's scalps is just ridiculous. I've gone from around 30-40 plants to only about a dozen. I try soo hard to keep them out of reach or the kids out of them- you should see my tree. The base if it is wrapped in 2 different kinds of tape (duct & packing) to hold the screen in place around the whole pot to cover the dirt. lol It's really ugly. But my tree is gorgeous & I've had it for 10 yrs! :

In the past week alone my 3 & one yr olds have spilled 2 different plants AND managed to get into the dirt under my tree. And so now my carpet has lovely dirt brown stains on it AGAIN. And I've been picking potting soil out of the 1 yr old's crevices for 3 days. And it's this huge time consuming clean up effort every single time.

I just really love the way our house looks with pretty green plants in it. I really really want to keep at least SOME plants! But I'm seriously beginning to think that it's either kids or plants. Period. It's so depressing to me! Is anyone else as weird about plants as I am? Or have you managed to keep plants AND kids??

Any advice or commiseration welcome. Or if you want to say to me "Um, DUH. EVERYONE knows you cannot both raise kids AND plants you crazy lady!", that would be okay, too.

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So, um, can we talk about houseplants? Do you guys have them?
Yeah, actually. I'll tell you how come I'm not excited soon. Just the question first. Something about dirt all over? My kids never mess with them actually. I'm not sure why. Maybe because we thought them that we need to be careful with plants/flowers because they get hurt too or summat. Who knows. Or they are just not that interested. We've had a couple of them for years.

And now I have exactly 4. And that's about 2 more than I want at least.
I do not have "green fingers", I really don't do plants/flowers or the likes. I just kill them.
But there's two White Orchids that my aunt and grandma gave me, I have matching pots and keep them in two of the windows in the livingroom that's next too eachother. I'm actually quite fond of them. So I stick it out with an egg glass of water once a week, they are still alive after months.
And then there's the moneytree my mom gave me (it's a green plant, it's just called a moneytree) that sits in the kitchen window, it needs just the same care as the Orchids, so it's also alive, but I don't like it very much.
And, we have a green plant that gets orange little fruits on it, looks like a tiny lemon/orange tree, sits in the window of the library. My dear bought it and he has to take care of it too. It has a crazy "water 2 out of 3 days" routine or summat. I would've killed it if left in my care, and don't like it, it's just because my dear wants to keep it and the kids thinks it's wicked.

And I'm actually gonna say: Uhm, duh! Everyone knows that you can both raise kids and plants, you crazy lady!

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No, I don't have houseplants because I'm not a total masochist. Instead, I have plants and a garden outside and I run out when nobody's looking to tend to them and as soon as I'm spotted playing in the dirt, I distract them with a coloring book, finger paints or a movie. I'm not above bribery.
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We have houseplants but they are all hanging...we had the dirt problem too. My dh had a lovely little papaya tree that would have fruited someday but my oldest child just ripped, tore, dug, and vandalized that poor tree. Dh tried putting a cut out cardboard guard at the vase and a little sign that read "Please don't hurt me." It was so silly and pitiful- the tree never had a chance against that child! So now we have lovely hanging plants...and some in pots on high shelves in the bathrooms. And we have tons of plants and gardens outside!

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To Jenny, yes, 1 girl & 3 boys. I actually feel exactly the opposite as you, I'd prefer more boys and NO more girls. I'll love them anyway of course, but I always said I wanted all boys, and my girl drives me up a wall.

To the houseplant question, no. We have a garden, and some potted herbs on the front porch, but the baby digs in the dirt if we have potted plants inside. My dh tried to start some carrots indoors and as soon as they sprouted, the baby would pull them up and eat them.

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Nope. Between my four and my childcare kids, I don't want to have to monitor plants too.

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Nope. Between my four and my childcare kids, I don't want to have to monitor plants too.

Or pets

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We love our house plants! How we make it work is we have self watering containers. Then when our plants start to overgrow we take trimmings and put them in water with some miracle grow (liquid). When they get a nice root system going we plant them in either self watering containers or in nice pretty ones but with those aqua globes (they actually do work!). We have two hanging plants, 2 in pots, and 3 or 4 in water. Those are ready to be transplanted so we need to buy new containers and get some new trimmings.

Our kids know Daddy is pretty serious about his plants so they know not to touch!

BTW we would not be able to do it without the self watering help. No way.

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My house plants are always full of animals, cars, pet shops.. or something long those lines. I always find dirty all over.. and oh oy when they try to surprise me by helping water.. I always end up with a mess to clean up.
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We only have 3 houseplants, all large ones, out of the way, the kids have never touched them. Good points, all, though, because who knows maybe this new little one will be the one that finally gets into the dirt. They all have a giant mud pit outside as it is right now anyway, so there are PLENTY of opportunities to bring dirt INTO the house!!!

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What do you do for birthdays?

All of our kids have summer birthdays, so we told them that this summer we would celebrate (modestly) as a family on their b-day (cake, homemade cards, etc) and then have a big birthday party for all in August. The older two seemed to be ok with this.

What do you do for birthdays?

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We just do friends and cake at home.

The only time we haven't done this was hen my eldest was littler we went to an outdoor play place which you can hire exclusively for not much money. We invited all his friends and our family and they all had to bring a water pistol. I did a cake, bought doughnuts and ice lollies and they all had a whale of a time soaking each other.
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We don't really do birthdays. Well, at least it started out that way. Now we buy an ice cream cake for the birthday girl/boy and take the kids to Toys R Us and everyone gets something.
My youngest DD birthday is a day before mine, so maybe we'll do something for her 1st B-Day/My 35th B-Day

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Ohhh, I like the idea of everyone getting something! That's a lot of fun. I just mentioned it to the kids and they thought it sounded like fun too.

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I read something on here about kids not getting a "party" every birthday and I felt such relief! You mean I don't have to let them design their own theme party every year, such as the Robin Hood birthday complete with a family performed play and treasure hunt?? phew. So now we just have family parties with my dh's family in town (which is a party!) except for when they turn 7,10,13,16,18. That's still a lot of parties with friends but it's not every year!

On their next birthdays my kids will turn 3,6,9, and 11. I am so off the hook at least for another year!!

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I read something on here about kids not getting a "party" every birthday and I felt such relief! You mean I don't have to let them design their own theme party every year, such as the Robin Hood birthday complete with a family performed play and treasure hunt?? phew. So now we just have family parties with my dh's family in town (which is a party!) except for when they turn 7,10,13,16,18. That's still a lot of parties with friends but it's not every year!

On their next birthdays my kids will turn 3,6,9, and 11. I am so off the hook at least for another year!!
I understand a party for 10,13,16 and 18, but why 7? Is it lucky number 7?

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We ask them what they want to do, and we talk about it and find a reasonable solution that will make them (and us) happy.
Sometimes it's a party with some friends, or a party with just family, to go somewhere (movies, theater, short trip) just the birthdaykid and us parents alone (or one of us, depending) etc. It varies a lot.
What we always do no matter, is that we wake them up with presents and the birthdaysong in the morning, the birthday child gets to decide dinner (also if they want to eat out) and dessert (cake, ice cream, whatever) on their birthday, and we go to the toystore as well and everyone gets something.

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We try to only do a themed party with friends every other year. On the year we don't do that it is dinner and cake with family and maybe a trip to the bowling alley or skating rink.

I have 3 with b-days in July, and this year I got them all to agree to a family trip to the water park for their birthdays....just 1 trip for everyone. They are very happy. It actually does work out cheaper than planning something separately for each child.
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I've found you!

Tomorrow my baby turns 3, and Friday we all troop down to the hospital for a level 2 sonogram and to find out our baby's gender!!! Two exciting events! And Saturday and Sunday are all day soccer tournaments for Ds1 and Ds2 (in two different towns) and a dress rehearsal for DD's ballet recital.

Where's my body double?

All good here. I have my beach sticker on my car, and the boogie boards are loaded in the way back. I love summer. I just wish I could find a maternity wetsuit!

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Hey everyone, I don't post much but lurck alot. I'm pregnant with #5 and could really use someone to talk to. Things are crazy, I feel like I've been hit by a car (and I was as a teenager, I know what it feels like) I am so overwhelmed. The pregnancy was not planned and I'm having a really hard time adjusting. My nearly 7 and 4 year old are sn, we homeschool in a tiny town where I have no support. My 2 year old has become this extremely loud, destructive, aggressive, exhausting little dude. I've become this snappy, yelling, horrible mommy
We just recently moved, I can't get anything organized. Tell me this get's better.....PLEASE
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I can't tell you this is going to get better, but if you want someone to talk to about unplanned pregnancies when you already have a big family, PM me. I was devastated to get the bfp.

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Kids turn 7 the year they enter school and sort of get their own friends/cohort instead of socializing with their parents' friends' kids. It's a huge developmental milestone year as well- the celebration of understanding abstract concepts and the possibility of rational thought!

JENNY, 38~ preschool teacher, birth activist, sun worshiper, singer, married for 17 years and mom to

Karan 15, Fiona 12, Bodhi 10, Bjorn 6, Devon 3, and Robin Taylor born January 16th!

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