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As soon as I saw this, I wondered what my MDC mamas would think. I appreciate the idea of not overscheduling kids. I definitely respect the idea that we mamas need to go easier on ourselves sometimes. BUT it lost me when a blogger proudly admitted to spanking her daughter.

What do you guys think of this "trend"? Is it a backlash against AP parenting?


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I am disturbed when I hear people speak of spanking as though it's completely fine.

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Idle parenting where you just relax and let things flow and don't feel the need to participate in every sport and every social function w/your kids and let them be is one thing (and my preferred method) but then there is a line between being an "idle" parent and downright negligent. It bothers me that people are not only excusing themselves but finding encouragement with things like spanking, CIO, etc. Like "You're a 'bad parent'! Me too! Isn't it so totally cool?" I do get the whole idea of questioning what is viewed as "good" and "bad" in society but we can go too far too.

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Something is happening to our society when it comes to how we treat our children. It seems that many more mamas these days are missing instinct to protect and love your children. My dsd mom puts her two year old in just a seat belt (that's right...no car seat) when she wants to go somewhere with friends but doesn't have the carseat. She also "double buckles" her other 3 kids so they can all squeeze into the car. This baffles me because I drive around paranoid that I buckled the carseat incorrectly, or that it is not latched to the seat correctly, etc.
These moms who seem to be so lax about their childrens safety, happiness, etc. really get to me. I feel like it is becoming the norm! AP gets so many critics, but why? Because we hold and protect our children the way every other mammal on this planet does? I'm really interested to find out why some humans are starting to emotionally separate from their offspring like this...
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Something is happening to our society when it comes to how we treat our children. It seems that many more mamas these days are missing instinct to protect and love your children. My dsd mom puts her two year old in just a seat belt (that's right...no car seat) when she wants to go somewhere with friends but doesn't have the carseat. She also "double buckles" her other 3 kids so they can all squeeze into the car. This baffles me because I drive around paranoid that I buckled the carseat incorrectly, or that it is not latched to the seat correctly, etc.
These moms who seem to be so lax about their childrens safety, happiness, etc. really get to me. I feel like it is becoming the norm! AP gets so many critics, but why? Because we hold and protect our children the way every other mammal on this planet does? I'm really interested to find out why some humans are starting to emotionally separate from their offspring like this...
I think AP gets so much flack because it is considered too much work. I think that ties in with our instant gratification/pleasure run society.

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Here's what gets me...

To me, AP is easy. Am I a freak? I know there's more to AP than what I am going to mention here. But when I get crap from someone about how much harder I am making this for myself (and I never complain- I love being a mom! Maybe they're just jealous LOL) I have to wonder.

Let's see... my baby has slept through the night since he was seven or eight weeks old (7 uninterrupted hours, now he's up to 8 uninterrupted hours at eleven weeks). I never was sleep deprived badly, not even when he was new- we bed shared and breast fed. We still breast feed. When he wakes up (he sleeps now in a bassinet right by my bed) at 4:00 AM after sleeping for eight solid hours, I just bring him to bed with me and nurse him and sleep another three or four hours. This means I get my eight, too! (I stay up a few hours after he goes to bed, so I can have adult time). I've never once had to make or prepare a bottle. I don't even know how to give a baby a bottle. My baby is always with me... he loves to be carried. I rarely fuss with a carrier or stroller unless I'm out for exercise or I'm bowling (haven't mastered bowling while holding a baby lol). How much HARDER life would have been for me if I had tried to leave him screaming alone from day one, or had to get up and make bottles at 2 AM. No thanks.

Maybe it's easy for me because I am a SAHM and I like being needed. I am not "touched out" and I love being around my baby 24/7 for the most part. I still haven't had one of those "I'm losing my mind" insane moments that I keep being told I'll have lots and lots of. I'm sure it'll come.

But yeah? I can't IMAGINE not properly strapping my baby in on a car ride, either. Wow. That's illegal here.
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I agree with you. I initially started AP/NFL because it felt natural and it was just easier to me. But I have to say it...

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my baby has slept through the night since he was seven or eight weeks old (7 uninterrupted hours, now he's up to 8 uninterrupted hours at eleven weeks).
The thought in society is that babies need to do this right away. I am talking 10 DAYS tops. That's why all the training methods are so popular. Get baby in that crib and sleeping through the night from the first few hours.

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yeah and I NEVER expected my baby to sleep like that! He just does it. There's no fighting involved... he gets sleepy nursing, then I gently lay him down. If he fusses a bit I watch and see what he does. 9 times out of 10 he sucks his hand and falls asleep, usually without fussing. Some times he cries a bit. If it goes more than a few minutes or is loud and distressed, I pick him up and nurse him again. It takes, what, 15 mintues of my time? And I know my baby boy sleeps peacefully. I've never understood why people think babies, which need us all day long, would suddenly not need us at night, or would understand the reasoning. Makes me sad But that's a whole other topic.
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I didn't go into parenthood saying "I'm going to be an AP parent" because I never really thought about it. I've just followed my instincts, which has lead me naturally into an AP-style. (I learned more about AP after DS was several months old, but was already being worn/co-sleeping/bfing on demand etc.)

To me, it is an easier style of parenting because I follow his lead. Sleep... um... that isn't something that has been great for us. DS isn't much of a sleeper and never has been. BUT he's happy. He rarely cries. And I can tell he is growing into a confident, independent, and loving little guy... yeaaa! I don't know how his personality may have been different if it wasn't my top priority to respond to his needs. Who can say...

I guess what bugs me about this news story is that there may be parents decisions that are actually borderline negligent or abusive and they will feel they can laugh it off as part of the "bad parenting" trend. I don't believe every parent should parent the way that we do - but why celebrate the more questionable practices?

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I agree with you. I initially started AP/NFL because it felt natural and it was just easier to me. But I have to say it...


The thought in society is that babies need to do this right away. I am talking 10 DAYS tops. That's why all the training methods are so popular. Get baby in that crib and sleeping through the night from the first few hours.

And forget the fact that babies really aren't supposed to sleep that long for the first few months! They are meant to be waking up every 2-3 hours to eat. It's normal.

I do think that "bad" is just a new way of saying, "I do things as much as I can to benefit myself. I didn't really think about how much work goes into raising children, so now I am going to make sure I continue to keep the lifestyle I had prior to my children, and they better deal with it." I'm always surprised when people seem surprised that having a baby means a lot of work, and for a time, some sleep deprivation, and making some sacrifices. It's the point of parenting, right? It's not easy all of the time!

We live in a society now where it seems that loving, and nurturing your kids is up for persecution, and if you respect your children, or your job as a mom, your a freak who doesn't know what he or she is doing. It's sad that trusting your instincts now has become so taboo unless of course it tells you to stick your 3 day old baby in his crib and let him cry.
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I can't get to the video. :

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Maybe I'm dumb but there are people who don't feed (breast or otherwise) on demand? Even if you were a selfish louse, wouldn't you at least feed your hungry child to quiet him???
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I AP, although I didn't chose that. It is just works for our family. I'm not a "helicopter parent" though. I base my parenting decisions on the end goal of raising a happy, well-adjusted adult. Do I solve my kid's problems? No way. I rather coach him in how to fix it himself. Do other moms look at me/comment that I'm a 'bad mom.' Sure. It bothers me sometimes, but I feel confident in my parenting abilities.

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One more post from me... I'm pretty new here and find these discussions very enjoyable... other people that are like me!!

Anyway, I also didn't choose to AP specifically. I didn't even really know what it meant! I am finding it's just how I parent. God my heart actually HURTS physically when my baby is sad or scared. I can't imagine any other way, for me.
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Maybe I'm dumb but there are people who don't feed (breast or otherwise) on demand? Even if you were a selfish louse, wouldn't you at least feed your hungry child to quiet him???
i nannied for a family that had a fairly rigid sleeping and eating schedule. at 6 mos he was eating 3 meals a day and got an 8 oz bottle in between each meal and once before bed. when he napped i was supposed to put him down at a certain time and leave him until he fell asleep (the sleep training took place before i was hired so i missed that thrill) and then if he woke up before an hour was up i was supposed to ignore him until the whole hour was back up in hope that he would go back to sleep.

the mother was working on her doctorate in infant and child development. this was the same woman who told me BFing is only better then FF for the first three months.
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Wow, maybe that's normal. I admit I am very inexperienced with babies and kids. My MW and friends told me to just follow my instincts so that's what I do. But that makes me very sad to think of a hungry baby
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Sorry, I watched the video and don't understand the responses in the previous posts (except for that super short blurb about the mom who wants to spank). It seems the whole story was about parents that try too hard by providing their kids with a packed schedule, and the helicopter style management of their kids and have reached a limit. I know AP people who do this and non-AP who do this.

I've seen a few posts on MDC about the "bad parenting" thing. If anything, writers write about the "bad parenting" perspective because they are sick and tired of trying to be perfect and are tired of the judgment from everyone, whether from mainstream people or the extreme AP types. I haven't read one article that wasn't humorous or tongue in cheek. These writers are NOT in the business of abusing their kids. (not apologizing for the spanking quote, but the overall articles lately have been in the spirit of "I'm tired of trying to be perfect and if someone wants to call me a bad parent...then I celebrate it!)

I consider myself pretty AP, but the judgment here is sometimes overwhelming...like no matter what I do...it's not good enough. If there are less tough-skinned people out there than me, than I can understand their frustration, especially if they are trying to do what is best for their kids.

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One more post from me... I'm pretty new here and find these discussions very enjoyable... other people that are like me!!

Anyway, I also didn't choose to AP specifically. I didn't even really know what it meant! I am finding it's just how I parent. God my heart actually HURTS physically when my baby is sad or scared. I can't imagine any other way, for me.
Just hearing my baby cry causes hormonal changes. I want to help her. It would make me sick not to help her.

And that's the part that I admittedly don't get. When it comes to a completely innocent, helpless baby, parents do things that they wouldn't even do to a dog.

I was just reading a blogger talking about what to do when your infant vomits from CIO. "don't interact w/ your baby" "minimize your time in the room"

My gosh, imagine if we treated a dog like that! We'd be sent to jail!

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Sorry, I watched the video and don't understand the responses in the previous posts (except for that super short blurb about the mom who wants to spank). It seems the whole story was about parents that try too hard by providing their kids with a packed schedule, and the helicopter style management of their kids and have reached a limit. I know AP people who do this and non-AP who do this.

I've seen a few posts on MDC about the "bad parenting" thing. If anything, writers write about the "bad parenting" perspective because they are sick and tired of trying to be perfect and are tired of the judgment from everyone, whether from mainstream people or the extreme AP types. I haven't read one article that wasn't humorous or tongue in cheek. These writers are NOT in the business of abusing their kids. (not apologizing for the spanking quote, but the overall articles lately have been in the spirit of "I'm tired of trying to be perfect and if someone wants to call me a bad parent...then I celebrate it!)

I consider myself pretty AP, but the judgment here is sometimes overwhelming...like no matter what I do...it's not good enough. If there are less tough-skinned people out there than me, than I can understand their frustration, especially if they are trying to do what is best for their kids.
Yes there is a lot of judgment in the world but not all of it is off-base and we can't sit here and pretend like we ourselves don't do it.

I often feel inadequate. The correct response to that is to question why you are feeling that and really examine it. This way we find room for improvement and also where we need to just chill out. But when people in general do bad things or make bad choices and then pat themselves on the back there is a bigger issue. Like I said in my OP on this thread I think there is a line. There is being a relaxed parent and then there is being just downright negligent. I'm not talking about the parents who don't do every activity, who's children aren't on them 24/7, who don't birth in a pool with dolphins, etc etc I am talking about parents who are doing real neglectful things and receiving praise for it because hey they need "me time" doncha know

I for one am tired of the judgment that comes to moms who are appaled by what other children have to go through. I agree that crazy judgment is bad where you are doing it for the sake of being the almighty judge and making yourself feel better but I'm sorry I am not going to sit here and say "oh that mama spanks her 10 month old? Let's him CIO? Leaves him in a poopy diaper for a few hours until she feels like getting to it? Well who am I to judge?" Yeah sometimes some things are just wrong and though it'd be awesome if this world was all butterlies and roses it's not and to say it's not shouldn't be such a shock. Yes it's judgment but is judgment always wrong? Is anyone really ever immune?

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I think what really gets to me is the "bad parent" label. It feels like we are still in middle school when i was so totally awesome to be "bad". I feel like these parents are really cutting themselves short byt labeling themselves "bad parents". I know that people think I am a bad mama for sleeping with my babies in bed with me, allowing them conventional candy for special occasions, letting them run around naked in the house, etc etc but I wouldn't call myself a bad parent simply because I stand by my parenting. If I DID think I was being bad I'd change it. So I guess this "bad parents club" seems a bit juvenile to me. I mean I understand getting together with other parents based on your philosophies (everyone needs a support system) but what is up with forming a collective based on the negative? Are there "I spank my kids and I'm proud!" groups out there too? I would not be surprised I guess.

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Sorry, I watched the video and don't understand the responses in the previous posts (except for that super short blurb about the mom who wants to spank). It seems the whole story was about parents that try too hard by providing their kids with a packed schedule, and the helicopter style management of their kids and have reached a limit. I know AP people who do this and non-AP who do this.
I agree. There was nothing in the video about breastfeeding, sleeping with your baby, etc. Yes, they mentioned someone who said she spanked but beyond that, I didn't see anything other than a couple moms; one saying that she stopped dragging their kids to ballet, art, and whatever lessons every day of the week and one saying that she loved her husband more than her kids.

I can't see how someone who stops dragging her kids all over as "bad" or doing something selfish for herself. Overscheduling your children can affect the whole family by reducing time for family meals, time to hang out together, etc.
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The "bad parent" self-label thing has been all over the media lately.

It has NOTHING to do with parents who are negligent or abusive. It's not about leaving your kid to CIO or sit in a diaper or watch TV all day.

It's a response to the over-scheduled insanity that parents have been putting their children through, and the competitiveness that has come to a peak with children in advanced French and dance and music lessons and soccer, and that's just on Tuesday. It's also a response to the need to constantly supervise one's kids and making sure they're doing flashcards or leappad or some other enriching activity instead of ever just sending them out into the yard to just play.

*Some* parents are sitting back and saying "oh, I don't do that." And in comparison to all the Super Mommies out there that are Making Their Children Be The Best They Can Be, these parents are saying about themselves -- *ironically* -- that they are "bad parents". As in, "so sue me if little jimmy isn't doing x, y, and z like all his peers -- I must be such a BAD PARENT'.

Parents are either cutting back on these activities because they realize it's nuts, or -- more likely -- because it's friggin' expensive and they can't afford to do it right now.

And there's the story. Nobody is neglecting their kids in this trend. These parents are just preemptively taking a defensive position before some other judgmental parents can come along and rag on them. That is all.
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I used to read that blog a few years back and went back to it to see what the ruckus was about. I think that spanking quote was taken out of context.

http://badladies.blogspot.com/2009/0...manifesto.html

She also wrote a response to people thinking she is condoning neglect.

http://badladies.blogspot.com/2009/06/ecce-mater.html

Both very interesting reads and worth your time is you have a few minutes.

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Like I said in my OP, I totally get the not wanting to overschedule and the need for moms to stop being so self critical.

In hearing the responses of others who know more about this movement than I do, it sounds like maybe they pulled out some unfortunate quotes (specifically about spanking, living LO in bathtub alone, etc.) to represent the movement.

I admit, I was a little taken aback by the woman who said she loved her husband more than her kids. Am I the only one? As a child, I think I would be heartbroken to hear my mom say that. But I was a sensitive kid.

Speaking of sensitive... I really am very sensitive about my own parenting choices... well, I tend to be overly sensitive in general. I think different parenting styles work for different families. Unless there is a case of abuse or neglect, I wouldn't criticize someone else's choices. I can only assume every mom (and dad) wants what is best for their child. And what is best for one child isn't for another.

I hope my OP didn't come off as overly judgmental. That definitely isn't the person I want to be or the mindset I want to have. I was just curious to your responses to this "bad parenting" movement - both good and bad.

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Thanks for posting those links, riverscout!! I love the honesty of this mama. It's tough to really lay it all out there like that.

This is a quote from the blog about the conflicting definition of a perfect mother:
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It is sad but true that there are some parents who are in fact proud that they spank. It' svery hard for me to understand that line of thinking. Who could be proud they purposefully inflict pain on their children? What is there to be proud about that a parent is too lazy to learn another way - too lazy to do the work it takes to be effective in the long run. Are these the same people who chose crash diets over healthy eating? You know the kind who are skinny off and on for a few years and then their weight gets out of control. Now they spank for short term results and wind up with out of control teenagers or adult children. Though yes some get lucky with children who turn out well in spite of being spanked or weight that remains low due to a hereditarily high metabolism. All in all there are all kinds of parents. None of us are perfect, some may try to be, and then the other side are the people who rather be proud to be lazy, which I don't understand. I think somewhere in between is ideal - do your best and cut yourself and your children and others some slack.
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Like I said in my OP, I totally get the not wanting to overschedule and the need for moms to stop being so self critical.

In hearing the responses of others who know more about this movement than I do, it sounds like maybe they pulled out some unfortunate quotes (specifically about spanking, living LO in bathtub alone, etc.) to represent the movement.

I admit, I was a little taken aback by the woman who said she loved her husband more than her kids. Am I the only one? As a child, I think I would be heartbroken to hear my mom say that. But I was a sensitive kid.

Speaking of sensitive... I really am very sensitive about my own parenting choices... well, I tend to be overly sensitive in general. I think different parenting styles work for different families. Unless there is a case of abuse or neglect, I wouldn't criticize someone else's choices. I can only assume every mom (and dad) wants what is best for their child. And what is best for one child isn't for another.

I hope my OP didn't come off as overly judgmental. That definitely isn't the person I want to be or the mindset I want to have. I was just curious to your responses to this "bad parenting" movement - both good and bad.
My mom said she loved God first, then her husband, then her children. And yes that hurt. What hurt even more was that she acted like she loved herself first, then God, then the church then her husband, and then s kids. We were the bottom of the totem poll. and like many people, she treated the dogs better then her own children (you know, there is a $400 fine if you hit a dog but not if you hit your child )

I love my family equally, perhaps in different ways. However, the reality is my husband can take care of himself and my children can not, and so maybe sometimes it appears I love my children more but I really I just love them all. I feel like our family is love, intertwined, and connected :
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Ayelet Waldman (Michael Chabon's wife) was the woman who said she loves him more than her kids. She seems to be resistant to labels-- she has used slings and breastfed plenty, killed herself to get her palate-deformed third or fourth child breastmilk for six months... but she SURE LOVES making fun of AP. I think she just really loves being snarky all the time. I think it's way too bad that she seems to think APers are more judgemental and harrassing than other kinds of parents. I think EVERYONE can be like that. I know when I made innocent comments about my life to "mainstream" parents, I got jumped all over by them. There was certainly as much bullying there as I've ever seen coming from APers, here or elsewhere. I think her perception of APers as being the ones who are so judgey comes from her limited experience with parenting spheres. She lives in Berkeley, goes on a Berkeley parenting forum, and they were having trouble with APers jumping all over other parents. But I think in other circles, it can be just as much the formula feeding CIO-promoting parents who say terrible things and pressure APers. I think it depends on where you live in the country, what your socioeconomic status is, etc.

I think it's too bad that SO MANY authors of these recent articles seem to be confusing helicopter/overscheduling parents with APing. So many of the APers I know are way hands off, and very into unscheduled lives for their kids. I think there must be some social cirlce of journalists who are seeing all these high-achieving parents stiving to be THE BEST PARENTS of THE BEST KIDS, and they do their research and find AP techiques, and then ALSO sign their kids up for baby genius classes and every sport and art program, etc etc. And the journalists are conflating AP with that hothousing parenting style. Also, they seem to think APers are only for positive discipline, and we are creating all the young workers who can't get anything done without lots of cheerleading, but most APers I know are very aware of over-praise, Alfie Kohn, etc. We're trying to avoid that! That really gets me, when people make assumptions about how my kid is going to turn out, and go on and on about it, when they can't even discern the differences between these parenting styles. I mean, I'm just a mom and I'm more informed than they are in all these topics, it seems. Maybe they've just been edited to death?

I think parenting styles are so much more diverse and individual than these articles are making out. I'm interested in reading The Idle Parent because it intrigues me. I will take what I want and leave the rest. But I'm so sick of reading articles that assume that because I AP I think I am better than everyone else and that I'm using flashcards on my baby and already planning her college applications. I AP because it's the only way I know how to parent (I can't leave my crying baby! I want to be close to her, etc etc), and because when I went and researched, the research backed up my instincts. I feel the urge to share what I've learned, because I was ignorant about all the choices out there, and when I felt spurred to research, I was amazed at what was out there. I just want everyone to get a chance to hear the same information. I never judge or bully others about their parenting, though. I am a believer in education and learning and information, that's all.
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I didn't go into parenthood saying "I'm going to be an AP parent" because I never really thought about it. I've just followed my instincts, which has lead me naturally into an AP-style. (I learned more about AP after DS was several months old, but was already being worn/co-sleeping/bfing on demand etc.)

To me, it is an easier style of parenting because I follow his lead. Sleep... um... that isn't something that has been great for us. DS isn't much of a sleeper and never has been. BUT he's happy. He rarely cries. And I can tell he is growing into a confident, independent, and loving little guy... yeaaa! I don't know how his personality may have been different if it wasn't my top priority to respond to his needs. Who can say...

I guess what bugs me about this news story is that there may be parents decisions that are actually borderline negligent or abusive and they will feel they can laugh it off as part of the "bad parenting" trend. I don't believe every parent should parent the way that we do - but why celebrate the more questionable practices?
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My aunt used to have a plaque in her kitchen that said "I'm a mean mommy." Some parents pat themselves on the back for being mean, getting tough, etc. My mom was talking to the (Christian mainstream) woman that I nanny for. She was saying how mad she was that one of the boys left his clothes on his closet floor instead of hanging them up, so she was going to take all his favorite shorts. (I expect this sort of retaliation from her.) And my mom goes, "Good for you!" ARG! I thought she was learning from me, and here she goes congratulating this woman for taking her ten year old's clothes away.

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